Playing with the VMAR`s open research

[walterw]

As I am researching all the diferent combinations we have for timing since fantailvma3 ... here is another very simple one I already commented on the previous videos...

On the 1 min chart with the fantailvma3 template (just that)... notice the last thick yellow line actually is the fantailvma3 base line... that line has two possible conditions :

_Outside Rainbow

_Inside Rainbow

so that suggest that this line will have this dynamic :

"Get Outside the Rainbow"

"Get Inside the Rainbow"

this events can be used for timing purposes... specially the "Get Outside the Rainbow"...

On this chart I show this definition in action... very simple and straight forward..



It is a clean and leading definition... cheers Walter.

[PYenner]

Yep some egg going around.
GBPJPY has some hard and fast drawdown tests when you chase bank money.
Kinda tells you when you arent wanted along for the ride. Very devious.

AUDUSD is a good choice, low spread, active, not too active.

Found out why you say to ignore 5 min chart once the trade is running.
Very confusing to find 1min in HE but 5 min laddering.
Not sure how much of that comes from the arbitrary way ticks are allocated to bars and to the arbitrary timing of which 1min bar gets to be the first into a 5 min bar.
That was part of why I would like to run 5min curves from inside the 1 min chart, so both sets of curves run off 1 min bars.

[walterw]

Here I post the two trades we had on "VMAR Icons" with this last timing definition of fantailvma3 yellow base line "Get outside the Rainbow"... on 1 min chart



nice cool entries on 1 min with solid arguments on 5 min... cheers Walter.

[walterw]

This is a video on this 1 minute timing definition... I believe I am feeling confortable with this one... If I get stopped with this one on an eventual noise situation (very few thanks to vma), it will be a very tight stop actually, as I can see this leading entry calls for a very nice competitive RRR.... cheers Walter.

All comentaries welcome...

[walterw]

Hi Bruce, I dont want to be annoying... wondered if we will have any chance of making a tighter vma (just baseline/ no rainbow) than the vma3 baseline.. is this mathematically posible ?

My idea is to have a turbo ( 1 line) tighter than the yellow baseline added in the chart so we can see this "micropullbacks" while the vma3 yellow line keeps laddering on...

So my idea is this: have plotted all the fantailvma3 template + this more tight line showing this price action...

I emulate my idea on this graph :



so this tighter line could tell us a little more information... just an idea, if its actually posibble, other wise I will re-create an entry definition for this cases where the yellow line keeps going on without any pullback... cheers Walter.

[walterw]

I dont know if this is the right place to talk about this new setup, but as it comes from the optimization process we are dealing here I will do it here...(on its first presentation) once this takes more form I will open a new thread on this new setup, so we can be more specific on this trades... and keep threads clean...

I am talking about the prospect "5 min Laddering" trade...

On previous post I already presented some basic concepts of this trade with charts and videos... I would say this are the smaller universe "vmar icons" because the icon concept still is in there and here we start to integrate one great concept vma has wich is laddering...

Now positive laddering from a small time frame doesnt have so much significance as positive laddering on a higher time frame, for example the positive laddering of a 5 min chart is much more significant than 1 min...

and as I like to find my trade arguments on a more robust timeframe like 5 min... then positive laddering on 5 min really is our shot here...

How does possitive laddering on a 5 min chart look like ?



simple, you have an HE going on and we he ends, and the black lines starts to continue on the same original direction, thats a "positive laddering"...

notice I am using fantailvma1 on 5 min.... gotta take coffe... continue on next post... cheers Walter.

[walterw]

Ok I decided to start a new thread on this "5 min Laddering" trade...

it is here http://www.traderslaboratory.com/for...rade-2494.html first post will reproduce this previous post, but it will be more organized... cheers Walter.

[PYenner]

My idea is to have a turbo ( 1 line) tighter than the yellow baseline added in the chart so we can see this "micropullbacks" while the vma3 yellow line keeps laddering on...

So my idea is this: have plotted all the fantailvma3 template + this more tight line showing this price action...
#---------
It had been my intention to do something like that.
I see the use for it.
I think something might be done.

The idea had been to have both Fantail1 and 3 on together.
But what we seem to need is 3 and something faster still.
It will mean having 1min chart zoomed right in, it is easy to lose sight of the trend and end up trying to trade a flat market that way.
OK good idea.

[walterw]

	Quote:	PYenner
	My idea is to have a turbo ( 1 line) tighter than the yellow baseline added in the chart so we can see this "micropullbacks" while the vma3 yellow line keeps laddering on... So my idea is this: have plotted all the fantailvma3 template + this more tight line showing this price action... #--------- It had been my intention to do something like that. I see the use for it. I think something might be done. The idea had been to have both Fantail1 and 3 on together. But what we seem to need is 3 and something faster still. It will mean having 1min chart zoomed right in, it is easy to lose sight of the trend and end up trying to trade a flat market that way. OK good idea.

I will aprecciate that Bruce, It will probably give us the final picture we need from all the speed universes... cheers Walter.

[PYenner]

This is annoying me at the moment.
The way 80% of the fantail is showing an uptrend for 80mins while the price actually goes nowhere. Its like it is telling a lie.

You have to trade with these things before you find what works for you or against you.