[MadMarketScientist]

Hi,

The police are faced with a wall of protesters and separate themselves by an orange mesh barrier. The women who end up on the ground, pepper-sprayed and blind, seem to have been just standing there. Their screams seem to make even the police question their actions.

Occupy Wall Street Is Getting Ugly

Occupy Wall Street Is Getting Ugly

Wow is this demo really going to work, 2011 is turning out to be the year of revolutions ...

MMS

[MightyMouse]

Originally Posted by MadMarketScientist »

Hi,

The police are faced with a wall of protesters and separate themselves by an orange mesh barrier. The women who end up on the ground, pepper-sprayed and blind, seem to have been just standing there. Their screams seem to make even the police question their actions.

Occupy Wall Street Is Getting Ugly

Wow is this demo really going to work, 2011 is turning out to be the year of revolutions ...

MMS

I can't stand when college kids try to get in the way of good old fashioned oppressive American capitalism.

[Tradewinds]

Originally Posted by MadMarketScientist »

Wow is this demo really going to work, 2011 is turning out to be the year of revolutions ...

People need to think about the mentality of the police force. If that situation was in a dictator country, the police would be shooting people for walking down the street. So the matter of degree is different, but the mentality is the same. The mentality of the police is about the same as snipers shooting people at random. The matter of degree between pepper spray and a bullet through your head is different, but the mentality behind the action is similar. And it's the mentality that determines what the future will be.

But even though I think the police in this situation are wrong, I also think that if people want real change, their efforts are better spent calling their local politicians rather than protesting. You can protest all you want, but voting the right candidate, and the consumers changing their buying habits has real consequences.

Actually, the people need their own independent media company.

[Tams]

[pa18]

Originally Posted by Tradewinds »

I also think that if people want real change, their efforts are better spent calling their local politicians rather than protesting. You can protest all you want, but voting the right candidate, and the consumers changing their buying habits has real consequences.

... does calling your politician really really work? the cancer has spread too much so cutting it out is the only solution

btw that vid is pretty disgusting displaying use of one paid arm herd against another

just rambling ehhh .....

[MadMarketScientist]

Originally Posted by Tradewinds »

I also think that if people want real change

Look at Egypt this year .. the Facebook protests got real change - if enough people demand change it will happen. Nothing would be better for the average citizen than sweeping change to Wall Street. It may happen if this protest continues to grow.

MMS

[jpennybags]

There are always two sides to every story.

Kind of looked like to me that the police were reinforcing a barricade that had been breached moments before the video was taken (the portion that was shown). Possibly someone on either side had forgotten the rules of engagement of peaceful protest… don't know… never will. There were too many officers in that area for just a standard situation… something must have happened. Also noticed that it was two officers that walked up on the barracade, and the second officer sprayed the crowd ("lone gunman"… lol). The second officer by all appearances was an older gentleman… probably "old school" and way fed up with the "hippy" protester nonsense. The first officer seemed a bit surprised by the actions of the second, as did all the officers standing there… all seemed a bit bewildered by the situation… but hey, what are you going to do… things get out of hand at protests. I did make note that it was "protest over" afterward. Not to say that they were treated fairly, but the it was definitely the end of the game.

I'm never impressed when I see children in the crowd at these things… it lends credence to the notion that many idiots, deadbeats, and thrill seekers attend these things (who brings their children… are you kidding). Possibly that's why things get out of hand… folks not all that bright with divergent motivations… crowd mentality in full force… at the other end, a bunch of public employees just trying to do their jobs. Seems a bit silly to me.

I've a great deal of respect and admiration for those in Egypt and in other countries. For any of these protesters to make reference to anything of the "arab spring"… nonsense. It fills me with a bit of despair to hear it. I would like to be able to expect more understanding from free men.

Anyway, sorry the chicks got maced… I'm sure it hurt. Protests get out of hand sometimes, don't bring your kids.

[Tradewinds]

Originally Posted by pa18 »

... does calling your politician really really work?

Yes, I believe it does. But most people have real fear of actually getting involved.