Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

walterw

CCI 50 for Momentum Determination

Recommended Posts

Hello everyone, today I came across a post by a very new member mkp14 , he shared a very nice chart with a simple fibo retracement but with a very nice old technique from dr. bob (I dont know if you got to know him ).

 

He was originally a woodies cci club member and went on his own with the two very interesting setup techniques 5014 and 5034....

 

I did trade woodie cci some years ago, then drop it not for being a bad aproach, just wanted something more price pane oriented, I remeber going thru dr bob 5014 aproach wich has a lot of sense but I never really traded the aproach because I was already on my M stuff having nice success....

 

Now, today as I see this chart from mkp14 I did got curios again to see a 50 cci on my chart, what would it look like and what information could I get that would be interesting...

 

 

For My surprise I found something not related to normal CCI traders... and I called it : "50 cci momentum" what it means is that if your cci gets far from 0 you have momentum, if its near to 0 no momentum....

 

 

Far from 0 will be above +50 below -50 lines... if you are between +-50 you dont have momentum.

 

I theoretically aplied a 50 cci to a 233 Tick chart from russell, so that would be a 500 cci on a 23 Tick chart wich I feel very confortable to scalp.

 

On the example below, you can notice that when cci went above +50 and stayed above that level we had a very nice steady trending condition, as he went back between +-50 things got choppy....

 

This could sugest a nice "context" analisis....

 

Having that context per example you could take "Trend Trades" playing the dips and continuations....

 

Again, the spirit of looking to this type of indicator would be to understand market conditions and take profit from it (not become an indicatorist).... cheers Walter.

5aa70dd2e2b68_50ccimomentum.thumb.png.e05e7175c63d0394289d2e2b651040e6.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest cooter

Just curious, could you add a 50 SMA line to the same chart that you posted as well?

 

It should provide you with additional context to interpret your 50 CCI readings.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here are some examples from today 23-4... and added the 50 ema ( wich is a 500 ema on the 23Tick chart) remember I am using the spirit of a 233 T chart... being plotted on 23 tick chart

 

What I am doing so far is measuring momentum.... its not even near to dr bobs trades.... any way learning dr bobs method is very instructional for the new trader... cheers Walter.

5aa70dd3038c9_50ccimom23-4.thumb.png.cc790fc3a91979202bddaed891062d76.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here I post todays examples... you can clearly see momentum and non momentum conditions....

 

You will notice some blue arrows on the price pane... well thats another issue to deal with it is called: TIMING that was the "ideal" place to enter the market, now how to determine when to enter its a great issue....

 

 

Remind you that timing will be more succesfull if you have a clear momentum context...

 

Will share later some timing ideas, open to yours ideas too... cheers Walter

5aa70dd3192a8_mom1.thumb.png.59c7aac78d7bba3ee738eccf0efae2a9.png

5aa70dd32353c_mom2.thumb.png.76fef79f6a6ddaa35319eaa48453be0d.png

5aa70dd32daa2_mom3.thumb.png.24ad6499c6f3e2e2ab2d7e67b9d70a7f.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok, here I come with a first very simple "Timing" idea.... its based on the Momentum context... you must have a momentum present.... once that is true I plot a Classic Stochastic that will go to the oposite extreme (30/70) and come back cross it.... I programed him to take color and width if the cci 50 has met the momentum conditions.... so far so good.... cheers Walter.

5aa70dd34f442_cci50timing1.thumb.png.6e4bb1089d12e4fe1e6a05c61d8fca92.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here is some example today on the first hour of trading... now we know where the blue arrows come from.... its not perfect but it does perform pretty decently....

 

On next posts I will deal with stops and exits.... Still figuring out... This are pure trend trades, compatible for left brained stupid slow people like me jejejeje... no big brainer.... cheers Walter

5aa70dd359a83_timing2.thumb.png.f4755f0caf678e1ced23c2bd633fcf3b.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Soul : so far all the parameters I am using are for this very small chart... now the cci 50 should be 50 on a 233 T chart.... I am using it 500 (10 times) on this 23 T chart... about the stochastic will take longer waves on a bigger scale,even if we put a smaller input, similar to using a cci 14 on 233T chart...

 

I like to scalp...I do that with my M`s, thought this trend trades could perform also very well ... Russell gives you in 2-3 good trades $100 per contract... I am happy with that money on a daily basis... cheers Walter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

mkp : sorry for my delay, I did take a small vacation with holidays here... should I remeber you this was just experimental... I dont trade this method at all... it has nice potenciall but as any technique you should get really good at it before trading.... I attach the indicators from previous posts... you can open the formulas and learn how to put conditions for color and width at easylanguage to maximize your visual aide.... should you check inputs according to interval being used.... cheers Walter.

W EXPERIMENT.ELD

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Walter,

 

I am interested to know more your CCI momentum. I am new to CCI. The CCI has 2 inputs, namely period and signal. The default is 12 days and 6 days. To use your example, please advise what are the values to input?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi May, welcome aboard... The above charts (last ones) is a ym 2 Range charts with simple ma 100/34 and on the oscillator pane you have cci 50 and cci 14 for turbo... also add level +-50 on cci`s...simple and straight forward...

 

This method gets to work ok when cci 50 its above/below +-50 levels and the turbo cci 14 does the timing with the 0 line cross... you can also be agressive and time the turbo on 50 or 100 levels as posted on previous charts, now its more conservative to take entries on a turbo 0 line cross...

 

I attach an example from today, wich happens to be also an icon trade... cheers Walter.

5aa70de510dfe_ymtrendtrades.thumb.png.3341e6a7571c24ddb1fc24bb4765fbb8.png

5aa70de515369_icontrade.thumb.png.093c23dd0644989583ee2c46241a7738.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks Walter for your explanation.

:D

 

Looking at the chart, there were some crossover at zero for cci14 which you did not circled and appeared to be flip pt. or is it?

 

what is the setup for the time frame (how many mins?) with 100/34 EMA?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Thanks Walter for your explanation.

:D

 

Looking at the chart, there were some crossover at zero for cci14 which you did not circled and appeared to be flip pt. or is it?

 

what is the setup for the time frame (how many mins?) with 100/34 EMA?

 

Hi May, the above chart has some flips, but I would not look for flips on that chart because it doesnt have keltner bands, wich is one of the conditions for flip setups... the timeframe on the above chart is 2 Range chart... now on flips I use 55Tick charts, I will be posting flips again on the flip trade thread.. I actually dont trade this 50 cci setups, I like to do some research on it, but found flip can be much easier to trade... cheers Walter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hello..

 

I m interested on using woodies indicator, but can someone tell me what is the 23 tick bar timeframe? the 1 minute chart or 1 hour chart?

 

I m only using metatrader platform, so the lowest timeframe is only 1 minute chart, can someone please help me what is the 23 tick bar. Thank you.

 

Compobey

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hello..

 

I m interested on using woodies indicator, but can someone tell me what is the 23 tick bar timeframe? the 1 minute chart or 1 hour chart?

 

I m only using metatrader platform, so the lowest timeframe is only 1 minute chart, can someone please help me what is the 23 tick bar. Thank you.

 

Compobey

 

 

Tick charts, each bar is formed by x amount of ticks ej. 23 ticks = 1 bar... metatrader does not have tick charts, only time based bars... the chimp on his actual aproach uses tick charts, actually on forex he uses Ninjatrader for charting purposes wich does have tick charts and its free of use... hope answers, cheers Walter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Regarding Woodies CCI.....you can use Ninja Trader which has Woodies CCI panel. Ninja Trader charting platform is free and they also have Range bars (or tick charts). However, you will have to have a datafeed to use Ninja.

 

If you have an account with one of the recommended brokers on Woodies website, then the data feed is free to use with Ninja Trader. In that case, the only time you pay for Ninja Trader is if you want to trade live using Ninja Trader's platform, otherwise, the data feed and Ninja trader are absolutely free.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Be careful who you blame.   I can tell you one thing for sure.   Effective traders don’t blame others when things start to go wrong.   You can hang onto your tendency to play the victim, or the martyr… but if you want to achieve in trading, you have to be prepared to take responsibility.   People assign reasons to outcomes, whether based on internal or external factors.   When traders face losses, it's common for them to blame bad luck, poor advice, or other external factors, rather than reflecting on their own personal attributes like arrogance, fear, or greed.   This is a challenging lesson to grasp in your trading journey, but one that holds immense value.   This is called attribution theory. Taking responsibility for your actions is the key to improving your trading skills. Pause and ask yourself - What role did I play in my financial decisions?   After all, you were the one who listened to that source, and decided to act on that trade based on the rumour. Attributing results solely to external circumstances is what is known as having an ‘external locus of control’.   It's a concept coined by psychologist Julian Rotter in 1954. A trader with an external locus of control might say, "I made a profit because the markets are currently favourable."   Instead, strive to develop an "internal locus of control" and take ownership of your actions.   Assume that all trading results are within your realm of responsibility and actively seek ways to improve your own behaviour.   This is the fastest route to enhancing your trading abilities. A trader with an internal locus of control might proudly state, "My equity curve is rising because I am a disciplined trader who faithfully follows my trading plan." Author: Louise Bedford Source: https://www.tradinggame.com.au/
    • SELF IMPROVEMENT.   The whole self-help industry began when Dale Carnegie published How to Win Friends and Influence People in 1936. Then came other classics like Think And Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, Awaken the Giant Within by Tony Robbins toward the end of the century.   Today, teaching people how to improve themselves is a business. A pure ruthless business where some people sell utter bullshit.   There are broke Instagrammers and YouTubers with literally no solid background teaching men how to be attractive to women, how to begin a start-up, how to become successful — most of these guys speaking nothing more than hollow motivational words and cliche stuff. They waste your time. Some of these people who present themselves as hugely successful also give talks and write books.   There are so many books on financial advice, self-improvement, love, etc and some people actually try to read them. They are a waste of time, mostly.   When you start reading a dozen books on finance you realize that they all say the same stuff.   You are not going to live forever in the learning phase. Don't procrastinate by reading bull-shit or the same good knowledge in 10 books. What we ought to do is choose wisely.   Yes. A good book can change your life, given you do what it asks you to do.   All the books I have named up to now are worthy of reading. Tim Ferriss, Simon Sinek, Robert Greene — these guys are worthy of reading. These guys teach what others don't. Their books are unique and actually, come from relevant and successful people.   When Richard Branson writes a book about entrepreneurship, go read it. Every line in that book is said by one of the greatest entrepreneurs of our time.   When a Chinese millionaire( he claims to be) Youtuber who releases a video titled “Why reading books keeps you broke” and a year later another one “My recommendation of books for grand success” you should be wise to tell him to jump from Victoria Falls.   These self-improvement gurus sell you delusions.   They say they have those little tricks that only they know that if you use, everything in your life will be perfect. Those little tricks. We are just “making of a to-do-list before sleeping” away from becoming the next Bill Gates.   There are no little tricks.   There is no success-mantra.   Self-improvement is a trap for 99% of the people. You can't do that unless you are very, very strong.   If you are looking for easy ways, you will only keep wasting your time forgetting that your time on this planet is limited, as alive humans that is.   Also, I feel that people who claim to read like a book a day or promote it are idiots. You retain nothing. When you do read a good book, you read slow, sometimes a whole paragraph, again and again, dwelling on it, trying to internalize its knowledge. You try to understand. You think. It takes time.   It's better to read a good book 10 times than 1000 stupid ones.   So be choosy. Read from the guys who actually know something, not some wannabe ‘influencers’.   Edit: Think And Grow Rich was written as a result of a project assigned to Napoleon Hill by Andrew Carnegie(the 2nd richest man in recent history). He was asked to study the most successful people on the planet and document which characteristics made them great. He did extensive work in studying hundreds of the most successful people of that time. The result was that little book.   Nowadays some people just study Instagram algorithms and think of themselves as a Dale Carnegie or Anthony Robbins. By Nupur Nishant, Quora Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/    
    • there is no avoiding loses to be honest, its just how the market is. you win some and hopefully more, but u do lose some. 
    • $CSCO Cisco Systems stock, nice top of range breakout, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?CSCOSEPN Septerna stock watch for a bottom breakout, good upside price gap
    • $CSCO Cisco Systems stock, nice top of range breakout, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?CSCOSEPN Septerna stock watch for a bottom breakout, good upside price gap
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.