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Old 03-10-2010, 02:09 AM   #1609

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Re: The Price / Volume Relationship

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Trade Navigator 'Automated Gap Removal Tool'

For those individuals who have an interest in using the Trade Navigator ' Automated Gap Removal Tool' (and the 'Freeze Trend Line Slope' Function) please see the instructions below.

Step One

Phone Genesis Customer Service and indicate you wish to enable the Spyder String for the Gap removal tool.

Step Two.

Click the telephone icon located in the upper left corner the Trade Navigator Software.



Step Three.

Within the 'Update Data' Dialog Box, select the 'Download Special File' Option. If not already there, type the word 'Upgrade (without the quotes) into the box. Clcik Start.



At this point, the Upgrade Process Begins. Once completed (and after Trade Navigator has restarted), move to the next step.

Step Four.

"Right Click" any chart and choose ' Edit Chart Settings.' Within the 'Chart Settings Dialog Box,' Highlight the word "price" directly under Pane 1. Next, check' 'Remove Overnight Gap' located in the bottom Right Corner of the Dialog Box.



Click 'OK.'

Once completed, the TN Software will automatically remove all overnight gaps enabling each day's opening print to occur exactly at the previous day's (16:15) closing price.

Also, to use the 'Freeze Slope' Function, simply grap the end of any trend line while holding down the 'Control (CTRL) Key' on your keyboard. Doing so will allow any trader to lengthen (or shorten) any trend line without changing the slope of the trend line itself (remains exactly as annotated).

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Re: The Price / Volume Relationship

Just a Quick note for those who may have already read my previous post. I have edited the post instuctions in order to have 'Calling Genesis' appear now as Step One - instead of Step Four.

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Re: Trade Navigator 'Automated Gap Removal Tool'

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Once completed, the TN Software will automatically remove all overnight gaps enabling each day's opening print to occur exactly at the previous day's (16:15) closing price.

Also, to use the 'Freeze Slope' Function, simply grap the end of any trend line while holding down the 'Control (CTRL) Key' on your keyboard. Doing so will allow any trader to lengthen (or shorten) any trend line without changing the slope of the trend line itself (remains exactly as annotated).

HTH.

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The tools work great. The charts are so much cleaner than when using the copy pattern tool.

One little glitch when using the freeze slope tool. It works fine for trend lines. But if you use TN's trend channel, sometimes the channel will rotate at a fast rate, instead of extending/shortening. If it does that use the end of the other trend line instead.

There's no rhyme or reason, sometimes the LTL does it, sometimes the RTL. And it's not the top or bottom one consistently. Couldn't nail down any consistent pattern. So if grabbing one line is a problem, use the other.
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Re: The Price / Volume Relationship

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Re: The Price / Volume Relationship

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Question Re: The Price / Volume Relationship

Wednesday, March 10, 2010

Today's chart attached. I focused on marking the volume of all lats as non-dominant. Sorry about the dots in the volume pane. I'll try to remember to remove them from now on.

What's the general consensus about acting on signals only at the close of a 5-minute bar? It seems like, due to the nature of the market and the ability to trade on various fractal levels, one could find a fractal level where acting on the close of a 5-minute would be acceptable/profitable. If that is the case, I'd like to find out if that acceptable fractal level is the "traverse level", i.e., where I would not be trading RTL or LTR movements within tapes, but the RTL or LTR tapes themselves of the next higher fractal. (Please note that I'm not saying that I would enter and exit only on tape breakouts.) Sorry if this is confusing. It's difficult to explain. Thanks for any advice.
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Re: The Price / Volume Relationship

This is a follow up to a question I asked Spyder privately about picking off gaussian transitions. I've written up a "literal" bar by bar gaussian log for that trend that started at 15:30 on 3/9 and ended at 11:05 on 3/10

(all times end of bar eastern)

I've identified a few problem areas - and I'm looking for clarity.

At 16:05 we've seen B2B 2R 2B. OK - no prob!

16:10 - 16:15 looks like falling black - rising red - which doesn't fit into our "mold" so I'm not sure what to do with it.

Then we get a rising black followed by a bunch of falling black. Again - not sure how to fit this into our mold. Falling black *always* happens after rising red - is it possible that 16:15 to 10:00 is a down volume sequence? Price is definitely rising over that period so it's hard to "accept" that. There is also no completing 2R.

10:05 - 10:40 looks like 2B 2R 2B - there isn't an initial B to make B2B.

10:45 - 11:05 completely confuses me

15:30 - IBGS - red to black volume shift
15:35 - falling black
15:40 - rising black
15:45 - rising black
15:50 - falling red
15:55 - rising black
16:00 - ???
16:05 - rising black

16:10 - falling black
16:15 - rising red
9:35 - rising black
9:40 - falling black
9:45 - falling black
9:50 - falling black
9:55 - falling red
10:00 - IBGS

10:05 - rising black
10:10 - rising black
10:15 - rising black
10:20 - falling red
10:25 - falling red
10:30 - falling black
10:35 - rising black
10:40 - ???

10:45 - falling red
10:50 - rising red
10:55 - falling black
11:00 - falling red
11:05 - rising black

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