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not from you ...LOL..LOL :rofl: :rofl:

http://news.yahoo.com/video/homeless-man-brings-people-tears-185802935.html

not money...the "love" of money..... Thats why folks need to be satisfied with a place to sleep...shoes to wear...clothes to wear...a donkey or a moto to ride...a fishing pole and worms to fish with..a little food to eat..decent health ..all else is cancerous cares and worries...foolish strivings...about things that you leave behind and can never take with you... Part of true happiness is being able to "give" not consume.... " a womens husband died. His widow told the funeral directors i want you to bury him 12 feet deep instead of the normal depth. The funeral director asked her why? She said deep down there is a little good in everyone" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well what is your measure of "superior" as stated in your first post? Do you want to know if wyckoff has a: 1) higher win rate? 2) better R:R 3) feasible ..superior way..to make money with? 4) can be driven by rules? Bottom line just what do you wish to learn about wyckoff and how will you know when you can say "i know wyckoff is superior because......." Why were you asking for peoples experiences trading it live when you don't think watching someone trading it live is useful?

Ask anyone to trade wyckoff live on this forum even if done so in a live simulator. Sure there will be some slippage..etc but with wyckoff trading a tick or two on entry or exit shouldn't matter too much. I don't imagine you will get any takers... But....if you do...you may learn something about whether or not wyckoff works in the real world. If a trader cannot make it work on a sim (which is about as close to real training as you are gonna get) it certainly won't work with a real money account. Of course, not all wyckoff traders can make it work well but if none can then you may have a rational answer. Maybe the wyckoff gurus...promoters...believers...will trade live on a sim...i doubt it...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Remember?..............

No difference for me. I hate losing..rules for me have nothing to do with it. It is the fact of losing....could be my ego? :rofl: :rofl: And....not sure how a trade obeys or disobeys rules anyway....?

Sadly the family must have suffered from clinical depression. Not only did Jesse Livermore kill himself but his son Jesse jr also killed himself in 1976. Then Jesse Jr's son Jesse III killed himself in 2006. It is better to express anger (in a constructive way) when losing in the markets and jump with glee when winning. We may act like we are robots and machine making logical decisions ONLY.....but, we are fooling ourselves..... When i trade i try to be a robot while the trading is going on. But when i win i rejoice..when i lose it eats away at me ...sometimes for days..i put it behind me but to say it doesn't bother me in the least ..well...i would be lying. I literally hate losing money...or anything for that matter but yet i know there is no way to win every time. But i don't have to like losing..neither do i have to think that winning will bring happiness and satisfaction in life. Although it has been known to cause a smile or two every now and then.. Sometimes it is good to just go fishing...or walk with the grandchildren...

Over long haul gold bullish. Indices bearish. However, i expect another push down in gold and another push up in indices. The collapse in indices after push up (probally 1800) maybe 1850 or so.

sounds interesting. Got any country in mind?

50 bucks is one point a day in the ES..easily done scalping the ES. just a few minutes each day...but you better learn scalping good first and practice or the ES will easily take your 50 and a few hundred more from you each day.

where at In CA. I MOVE around quite abit in CA. BELIZE, HONDURAS, GUATEMALA, EL SALVADOR...

so.....manipulation...???

Where is the dramamine? Too many waves..I'm sick....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :missy:

long 15 minutes...eh..more to come...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl::helloooo:

Nothing like a bullish market to quiet the bears...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :helloooo: :helloooo:

:helloooo: :helloooo: :helloooo: Is gold bullish? Every dog has his day:rofl: :rofl:

: I shall remember this...:haha: :haha: :rofl: :rofl:

well he is correct about that. Price doesn't see our horizontal lines or MA lines however institutions do and they make the price or get the ball rolling so to speak. Some manage to blast price right thru our lines. Others institutions manage to defend the levels. I think it better to weigh the pressures bullish/bearish that have been in play prior to a level being reached. It can give some indication if price will go thru the level or be rejected at the level.

My understanding is that Mr Ross does not believe in support and resistance...now than is a concept that chews up traditional and present day thinking... Mr handle might clarify that?....

Jest wander on over to the beyond taylor thread and watch me lose. It will make you feel better....

True true true..but a little fun now and then? Come on...along with the sunshine theres got to be a little rain sometime... I thought forums were to help each other....?..socialize...? Have a little fun? A yellow legal pad could have served your purpose of staying disciplined as the info you were sharing..well i didn't see much value to traders in it...bot at x price sold at x made 10 ticks...sorry but no other info could i really see except your pieces of chart with no expanation of why entry and exit or otherwise... Come on over to beyond taylor thread where you have my permission insult me ...mock me...laugh at me ..as long as done in a decent way..as i attempt to apply taylors strategies live to the ES...it may be a real big failure but i don't care..it will be fun and perhaps we will all learn something. I do not know if taylor will work with the ES or not. I know it does with stocks. Anyway..happy trading..

LOL...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: anyway was not refering to you..but i have not seen mr ross donate his methodolgy..maybe a few things.?.....

EOD...he may have been aiming for a big Golden C under his name. Not saying he was..just a guess that may or may not be true. See if he could present a 90% win rate in public the litte fishing worms would come out of their holes in the ground private mail him and he might could take them fishing. They, of course, would be the bait and he the fisherman. Guess who would eating the fish? Yep ....that horse kick knocked some horse sense into my brain... Funny how the Golden C boys stick together..."birds of a feather stick together" i once read somewhere that mr ross said people don't appreciate things when they are free...or something of that nature....so he charges what 1500 day (don't remember for sure his charge ) for talking to you with his sandpaper voice (i guess he can't help that though)... Nevertheless, mr Ross probally does have a profitable system...i have heard mostly good things about him. Why don't you just donate your system (with a pay if it works). If it works i am sure folks will be happy to thank you and pay you. I once developed a system and gave it to people and told them to pay me x amount if it worked for them and nothing if it didn't. Guess what, no one refused to pay me that it worked for. I never was cheated. Not a single time... Ya'll come on over to the beyond taylor thread where i will put my ego...neck....whatever...on the line...ya'll can jeer..cheer...praise...my efforts or jest laugh your noggin off...don't forget to bring your chewing bacca and spi can.