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Old 09-21-2011, 09:08 AM   #1

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What Happens to an Account in the Case of Death?

We're all young and healthy. The world is our oyster. So quite naturally none of us like to think about the inevitable. I for one plan to outlive y'all but -- just for the sake of argument -- let's suppose you drive off a cliff in that new Maserati you bought with last week's proceeds.

What happens to your trading account? Your open positions won't close themselves magically, how do you handle this? My broker doesn't permit physical delivery so I guess my positions will get auto-closed once the contracts start expiring. But how do stock people manage this eventuality?

How do you make sure your spouse and/or kids have access to your funds after you start pushing up daisies? Will your trading account be handled like any other bank account?

I guess I should talk to my broker about these things. But I thought it couldn't hurt to throw the question at you guys first. So, any thoughts?
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:43 AM   #2

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Re: What Happens to an Account in the Case of Death?

Step 1: Talk to a qualified attorney to plan for your demise -- including your trading/investment accounts.

Step 2: Follow their advice.

Seriously, this is something that you need to pay for top quality advice for - not an internet forum.

This is one advantage of day-trading, by 4:15pm EST, my positions are closed. As long as I don't kick the bucket in the middle of a trade, my trading accounts should be sitting in cash and if I do, that's what stops are for. As for the investment accounts, they are considering investments so by the time my accounts are passed on, no big deal.
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:23 AM   #3

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Re: What Happens to an Account in the Case of Death?

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We're all young and healthy. The world is our oyster. So quite naturally none of us like to think about the inevitable. I for one plan to outlive y'all but -- just for the sake of argument -- let's suppose you drive off a cliff in that new Maserati you bought with last week's proceeds.

What happens to your trading account? Your open positions won't close themselves magically, how do you handle this? My broker doesn't permit physical delivery so I guess my positions will get auto-closed once the contracts start expiring. But how do stock people manage this eventuality?

How do you make sure your spouse and/or kids have access to your funds after you start pushing up daisies? Will your trading account be handled like any other bank account?

I guess I should talk to my broker about these things. But I thought it couldn't hurt to throw the question at you guys first. So, any thoughts?
nothing will change in your account until:

1. a margin call and the broker will liquidate the positions for you.

2. an option expires, or, if in the money, the broker will auto-exercise it for you.

3. your estate executor makes whatever decision (liquidate, transfer) and notify your broker.


otherwise nobody has any right to touch anything in it, including your spouse.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:08 PM   #4

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Re: What Happens to an Account in the Case of Death?

If you open the account in both names, she, (or he), should have access to it the same as you.
All my accounts are in both names. All my positions have stop orders attached, so as long as it's going my direction, the position holds, if it goes against me I am out, same as any trading process...
I try to have an updated "in case" folder with this stuff in. It might take a while for her to pull it all together, but eventually she would at least get some sort of account statement and check into it.
My instructions are to close any open positions, close the account and have the check mailed to her...

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Re: What Happens to an Account in the Case of Death?

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We're all young and healthy. The world is our oyster. So quite naturally none of us like to think about the inevitable. I for one plan to outlive y'all but -- just for the sake of argument -- let's suppose you drive off a cliff in that new Maserati you bought with last week's proceeds.

What happens to your trading account? Your open positions won't close themselves magically, how do you handle this? My broker doesn't permit physical delivery so I guess my positions will get auto-closed once the contracts start expiring. But how do stock people manage this eventuality?

How do you make sure your spouse and/or kids have access to your funds after you start pushing up daisies? Will your trading account be handled like any other bank account?

I guess I should talk to my broker about these things. But I thought it couldn't hurt to throw the question at you guys first. So, any thoughts?
When you are dead they will figure it out because it will be very important to them to have your money so that they can spend it, live on it, etc. It will be money that they did not earn, so it is the best money ever to them. When the money is divied up, you will end up as a fading photo on a mantle, soon to be forgotten.
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Re: What Happens to an Account in the Case of Death?

Dear Mighty Mouse: That sounds so sad.

When I die, even if in mid-trade (stops and take-profit in place), my family will know exactly where to look for the money. My trading is done through a family owned corporation – no problems with getting the money either. I love the idea that they will enjoy spending it – hope they have a great time. As to the fading photo on the mantle, that is as it should be. We have loved, and loved well. What more can you ask? I don’t want them to get stuck in memories, grief or regrets. I hope my husband goes on to fine someone else he can love deeply. I hope my children will go on to create happy, meaningful lives for themselves.

Years ago (and I do mean years), I was a police officer. When I went to work each day, I never knew if I was going to becoming home. The dishes were done and the beds made so no one could say I wasn’t a good housekeeper (that’s a woman thing), and my last words as I went out the door were always, “I love you.”
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Re: What Happens to an Account in the Case of Death?

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Dear Mighty Mouse: That sounds so sad.

When I die, even if in mid-trade (stops and take-profit in place), my family will know exactly where to look for the money. My trading is done through a family owned corporation – no problems with getting the money either. I love the idea that they will enjoy spending it – hope they have a great time. As to the fading photo on the mantle, that is as it should be. We have loved, and loved well. What more can you ask? I don’t want them to get stuck in memories, grief or regrets. I hope my husband goes on to fine someone else he can love deeply. I hope my children will go on to create happy, meaningful lives for themselves.

Years ago (and I do mean years), I was a police officer. When I went to work each day, I never knew if I was going to becoming home. The dishes were done and the beds made so no one could say I wasn’t a good housekeeper (that’s a woman thing), and my last words as I went out the door were always, “I love you.”
That all sounds like you are a very nice, thoughtful person. For your sake, I hope they appreciate it long after you are gone. Longer than you anticipate.
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My trading is done through a family owned corporation – no problems with getting the money either.
This is one can I've been kicking down the road for some time now, seems like yet another good argument to get that LLC finally rolling.
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