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Anything jump out at you in particular? If so, what might one conclude?

 

What I notice is ONE cycle of R2R before we have increasing non-dominant (black) volume, then a return to increasing red. Because we had just one R2R volume cycle I would conclude that we did not drop to a lower fractal?

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:confused::confused:

 

If the price pane were blanked out in this example, should we still know we have a traverse rather than a tape?

 

Neoxx used the phrase "in this example" in his question. You didn't notice the highlighted orange section within the portion of his post I quoted? Since Neoxx chose to discuss this example instead of all examples, he has provided boundaries for his question.

 

Your post applied my answer (to his question) outside those boundaries. In other words, my answer does not apply to all examples - only this one.

 

:confused::confused:

 

With no reference to price, the attached examples would seem legitimate alternatives.

 

Everything is not always what it appears to be (at first glance).

 

I encourage everyone to look at what appear to be "legitimate alternatives" in this case, and by doing so, test said conclusions against known circumstances in an effort to determine whether or not the statement represents a valid conclusion.

 

You arrived at a specific conclusion. That being, the attachments you posted represent "legitimate alternatives" to what I have stated. I encourage everyone to compare these "legitimate alternatives" against known areas of the market where one knows what the market has provided. In other words, one needs to compare and contrast the "legitimate alternatives" against an area of the market where the same thing occurs and determine if the conclusion of "legitimate alternatives" represents a valid viewpoint or wishful thinking.

 

- Spydertrader

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Attached is yet another example of the same principles at work - placing the end of traverse level B2B gaussians (medium level thickness) at any point in time prior to 13:30 would not result in correct identification of the traverse.

 

Again the P2 (of the blue channel/traverse/container) is on a VE of the next faster fractal. Where is the FTT (on the next faster fractal) that the tenet demands?

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One can go no further then post #4 of this thread : http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/f34/price-volume-relationship-6320.html#post70030 and simply look at the picture attached there. For convinience I am posting the picture again.

 

And if you don't look simply at it you see that there is not an FTT shown at the P2. I don't know if that was deliberate or sloppy drawing.

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What I notice...

 

By quoting Neoxx and highlighting certain areas of the quote, when I used the phrase "anything jump out at you?" I was referring to the orange highlighted section of Neoxx's question in that Neoxx chose to request an answer for this specific example only, and not, all examples.

 

- Spydertrader

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Again the P2 (of the blue channel/traverse/container) is on a VE of the next faster fractal. Where is the FTT (on the next faster fractal) that the tenet demands?

It is right where the medium B2B gaussians end. Apologies for missing the black skinny trendlines.

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And if you don't look simply at it you see that there is not an FTT shown at the P2. I don't know if that was deliberate or sloppy drawing.

1. All trends ( skinny, medium or thick lines in the picture) end with an FTT.

2. Where skinny trend ends the market arrives at a Point (1, 2 or 3) of a Traverse.

3. The skinny trend ends with FTT.

 

1 + 2 + 3 => A Point (1, 2 or 3) of a traverse ( medium thickness lines) represents an FTT of 'something' of the next smaller fractal (skinny lines).

 

P.S. The thickness refers to both trendlines and gaussians. 'Something' may look like a traverse, however, if it is not (a traverse, based on gaussians), then it must follow that correct annotation of that 'something' must be done with skinny trendlines and gaussians.

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It is right where the medium B2B gaussians end. Apologies for missing the black skinny trendlines.

 

Could you annotate the P2 (of the blue or black channel) and the associated FTT (on the next faster fractal) on your chart, I still can't see it.

 

(From your post above it seems that your P2 is not where the LTL is drawn.)

 

Does anyone else know what I'm asking and why?

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As we all know neither romanus nor PointOne are slouches but the example P1 selected to disprove romanus' contention is in error, IMO. This is not to say that either trader is right or wrong. It would help if P1 found a better example to support his notion.

 

lj

 

In what way is the example I posted "in error"? The example clearly shows a P2 on a VE of the next faster fractal. No FTT in sight, on the 5 minute resolution.

 

If it's a tenet that there is an FTT of something at points 1, 2 and 3 then I'd expect to see an FTT at every P2. I don't.

 

We've all seen bounces of VEs that BO of the RTL. Then, when we have P3, we draw the LTL through this VE and call it P2.

 

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

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In what way is the example I posted "in error"? The example clearly shows a P2 on a VE of the next faster fractal. No FTT in sight, on the 5 minute resolution.

 

If it's a tenet that there is an FTT of something at points 1, 2 and 3 then I'd expect to see an FTT at every P2. I don't.

 

We've all seen bounces of VEs that BO of the RTL. Then, when we have P3, we draw the LTL through this VE and call it P2.

 

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

 

The 'P2' to which you are referring is not a P2 of a 5 min ES traverse as you can verify for yourself by annotating the channels from the prior day. I believe I am correct in saying that when romanus refers to a 'traverse' he is referring to a 5 min ES traverse, what Neoxx has called a 'standard traverse'. Anything faster is a tape or a fat tape or a fasterfractal traverse or a subfractal traverse or a goat or whatever.

 

I know exactly what you are referring to with the "VE" (and "LTL") bounces and BO's but what is being said here, and I believe correctly, is that such bounces and BO's, while tradable, are not bounces and BO's of 5 min ES traverses.

 

lj

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Could you annotate the P2 (of the blue or black channel) and the associated FTT (on the next faster fractal) on your chart, I still can't see it.

Blue trendlines represent a 5 min ES level Traverse with Point Three at 14:20. Olive and black trendlines represent tapes (which have tapes inside it). The blue Point Two at 10:45 is derived from looking at Price only. If 10:45 was also the end of medium level B2B, then the entire 10:45 to 13:25 lateral would have been \R of medium thickness which would cause 13:30 to be the completion and the end of the 5 min ES level sequence. That in turn would mean that a new sequence would begin from that point forward for a down 5 min ES level Traverse. As you can see it didn't happen. Which means something prevents 10:45 from being the end of medium level B2B. That something is the lack of FTT at that point. 10:45 is a VE of the olive tape and 13:30 is an FTT of the black tape, with black tape derived from olive by fanning.

 

Again, the above is based on defining the 'TAPE' and 'TRAVERSE' on both trendlines and gaussians, and not just by looking at price alone.

 

(From your post above it seems that your P2 is not where the LTL is drawn.)

You are absolutely correct. P2 is where gaussians say it is.

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So how do you decide where to place your LTL if it is not through P2?
The LTL is still where the price says it is, however the gaussians determine when all sequences reached their completion and where the current trend ends and new begins on the same fractal.

 

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The 'P2' to which you are referring is not a P2 of a 5 min ES traverse as you can verify for yourself by annotating the channels from the prior day. I believe I am correct in saying that when romanus refers to a 'traverse' he is referring to a 5 min ES traverse, what Neoxx has called a 'standard traverse'. Anything faster is a tape or a fat tape or a fasterfractal traverse or a subfractal traverse or a goat or whatever.

 

I know exactly what you are referring to with the "VE" (and "LTL") bounces and BO's but what is being said here, and I believe correctly, is that such bounces and BO's, while tradable, are not bounces and BO's of 5 min ES traverses.

 

lj

Here's another one, in case you were ever wondering (like me :)) what the hell was built that day.:doh:

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The LTL is still where the price says it is, however the gaussians determine when all sequences reached their completion and where the current trend ends and new begins on the same fractal.

 

"Learn to understand what your Gaussians are telling you. By doing so, you'll automatically understand which fractal provided the signal you see, and more importantly, whether or not that particular fractal has completed its sequences."

 

So we agree where P2 is located. Good. It's on a VE.

 

Your tenet states that there is an FTT of something at every point 1, 2 and 3. I dispute that there is always an FTT at P2s. Your example shows a P2 on a VE. A VE cannot be an FTT, by definition.

 

Your tenet, if true, applies on all fractals. But your fanned black traverse has its P2 on the VE of the faster tapes. Where is the FTT of the tape forming the black traverse P2?

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Your tenet states that there is an FTT of something at every point 1, 2 and 3. I dispute that there is always an FTT at P2s. Your example shows a P2 on a VE. A VE cannot be an FTT, by definition.

 

The example shows point 2 of the tape on the VE of the tape. (Black trendlines do not represent a 5 min ES level traverse).

 

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Your tenet, if true, applies on all fractals. But your fanned black traverse has its P2 on the VE of the faster tapes. Where is the FTT of the tape forming the black traverse P2?

 

Black trendlines do not represent a 5 min ES level traverse. They represent a tape. A tape which ends with an FTT at 13:30.

 

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Your tenet, if true, applies on all fractals.

Yes it does. Tapes, however, being the smallest unit in terms of fractals may represent a challenge as their point 2 must be an FTT of something finer than a tape, which is not always identifiable on a 5 min chart. Luckily, in our example, dashed teal trendlines exist. See attached.

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I, for one, would be very disappointed if this thread became embroiled in debate, discussion and verbal sparring, for which the other contemporary thread may serve a better arena.

 

We're grateful to have Spyder back, as what may be a 'last gasp' effort to bring everyone up to speed, and, at least in my opinion, the onus should be on promoting maximum utility.

 

I sincerely hope this thread does not become derailed, teeter on the brink, and plummet into the precipice.

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Neoxx used the phrase "in this example" in his question. You didn't notice the highlighted orange section within the portion of his post I quoted? Since Neoxx chose to discuss this example instead of all examples, he has provided boundaries for his question.

 

Your post applied my answer (to his question) outside those boundaries. In other words, my answer does not apply to all examples - only this one.

 

You arrived at a specific conclusion. That being, the attachments you posted represent "legitimate alternatives" to what I have stated. I encourage everyone to compare these "legitimate alternatives" against known areas of the market where one knows what the market has provided. In other words, one needs to compare and contrast the "legitimate alternatives" against an area of the market where the same thing occurs and determine if the conclusion of "legitimate alternatives" represents a valid viewpoint or wishful thinking.

 

- Spydertrader

Was applying it outside the "boundaries" a reference to the question being only about it being a traverse?

 

Was your answer to Neoxx with or without the gaussians already drawn in, as in that specific example?

 

I walked through the alternatives. Any comments or other things that should have been taken into consideration?

 

Thanks - EZ

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Luckily, in our example, dashed teal trendlines exist. See attached.

 

OK cool there is an FTT there at P2, in the most accelerated tape. Apologies for not seeing it sooner, serves me right for just eyeballing somebody else's chart.

 

The tenet holds for now. I'll look out for examples to post where there is no discernible FTT at the P2 of a traverse or channel. (As you point out, discerning the FTTs in tapes at their P2s is unlikely on a 5 minute chart alone.)

 

Does anyone else have anything to add?

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I, for one, would be very disappointed if this thread became embroiled in debate, discussion and verbal sparring, for which the other contemporary thread may serve a better arena.

 

Sorry Neoxx, I thought I had discovered something about P2s and wanted to share this by testing romanus's assertion, nay tenet. It was a useful discussion for me at least. I shall keep my own counsel from now on.

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Sorry Neoxx, I thought I had discovered something about P2s and wanted to share this by testing romanus's assertion, nay tenet. It was a useful discussion for me at least. I shall keep my own counsel from now on.

 

Spyder is a valuable - but finite - resource, and this thread represents a unique opportunity for a lot of people, from those barely out of the starting blocks, to others (myself included) who may have stumbled at certain steps on the path to differentiation.

 

In the brief life of this thread, Spyder has already crystallized a number of important points, clarified certain others, and provided an accessible and up-to-date roadmap for continued progress.

 

I meant nothing personal, and hope I haven't deterred you from continuing to actively participate in this thread.

 

I simply meant it's in our collective best interests to foster an atmosphere conducive to clarity, candour and Spyder's continued input.

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Was applying it outside the "boundaries" a reference to the question being only about it being a traverse?

 

No.

 

Neoxx asked about this specific example. He wanted to know, (paraphrased), "Whether or not one would still know a traverses existed if a trader had no access to the Price pane." Applying my answer to all Traverses (and not just this specific example) represents an action 'outside the boundaries of the question.'

 

Was your answer to Neoxx with or without the gaussians already drawn in, as in that specific example?

 

The Gaussians existed (were already drawn on the chart snip), prior to, Neoxx posting his question.

 

I walked through the alternatives. Any comments or other things that should have been taken into consideration?

 

The entire point of these discussions represents my attempt to motivate people to learn the process of differentiation. As we noticed recently while observing the discussions between romanus and PointOne, people 'see' things differently (please note: I did not use the terms, 'correctly' or 'incorrectly'). People also interpret words and phrases differently based on their own internal 'filters' which resulted from various life experiences. As such, learning the process of differentiation represents the best way for someone to know the intended meaning of words and phrases equals what the presenter intended, and more importantly, that the recipient understood as accurate and precise.

 

For example,

 

"The YM leads the ES." represents a true and accurate statement. However, "The YM Leads the ES at points of change," represents, not only a true and accruate statement, but one which is more precise.

 

I once made the error of adding a different qualifier to the original assertion. My mental filters decided I had heard the words, "The YM leads the ES all the time," when nobody had inferred nor implied such a thing. Only when I differentiated all possible meanings of the original phrase did I arrive at the correct interpretation.

 

To that end, I started this thread.

 

- Spydertrader

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Spyder, could you post a few charts with examples of tapes on them, that look like traverses (akin to the recent chart of dkm) and some charts with examles of traverses, that look like those tapes. If you omit Gaussians annotations that would be tremendously conducive for understanding of the fractal jumping. I hope I don't ask too much here, but I guess that would be really helpful.

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Spyder is a valuable - but finite - resource, and this thread represents a unique opportunity for a lot of people, from those barely out of the starting blocks, to others (myself included) who may have stumbled at certain steps on the path to differentiation.

 

In the brief life of this thread, Spyder has already crystallized a number of important points, clarified certain others, and provided an accessible and up-to-date roadmap for continued progress.

 

I meant nothing personal, and hope I haven't deterred you from continuing to actively participate in this thread.

 

I simply meant it's in our collective best interests to foster an atmosphere conducive to clarity, candour and Spyder's continued input.

 

It is great to have an active discussion of the method again. It is entirely possible to have a sharp, clear discussion without resorting to things 'pissy and snippy', such as condescension, ad hominems, misrepresentations, etc. It is most frequently the arrogance of ignorance which gives rise to such manoeuvers and as true discussants of the method we are above all that.

 

Romanus' outpourings of the last few days have been very helpful to me (thank you romanus) and I hope everyone else as well. IMO, one creates an appropriate ego by putting it on the line and and building it anew when necessary. This should not be a big deal for anyone, although it does take a little practice to get used to doing it. The reward is new knowledge. Multiple moments of 'doh' will inevitably lead to a fabled 'aha'. If you experience a few 'haha's' at your own expense on the way to the 'aha', that makes it even better.

 

lj

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No.

 

Neoxx asked about this specific example. He wanted to know, (paraphrased), "Whether or not one would still know a traverses existed if a trader had no access to the Price pane." Applying my answer to all Traverses (and not just this specific example) represents an action 'outside the boundaries of the question.'

 

The Gaussians existed (were already drawn on the chart snip), prior to, Neoxx posting his question.

So in Neoxx's example with price blocked out and with the gaussians drawn in we should know it was a traverse. On other examples, (of traverses) it might not be so clear.

 

The entire point of these discussions represents my attempt to motivate people to learn the process of differentiation. As we noticed recently while observing the discussions between romanus and PointOne, people 'see' things differently (please note: I did not use the terms, 'correctly' or 'incorrectly'). People also interpret words and phrases differently based on their own internal 'filters' which resulted from various life experiences. As such, learning the process of differentiation represents the best way for someone to know the intended meaning of words and phrases equals what the presenter intended, and more importantly, that the recipient understood as accurate and precise.

 

Walking through the other examples was an attempt at differentiation of volume sequences, or reading volume by walking through the other viewpoints. There may be something glaring that's missing (in my analysis of these alternatives) that someone else might see that would help move the process forward. Of course it's always nice to have a standard to compare to.

 

Thanks for clarifying. - EZ

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On 22 June 1897, the Chapekar brothers, young Pune Hindus, shot and killed Walter Charles Rand, an Indian Civil Services officer acting as Pune Special Plague Committee chairman, and his military escort, Lieutenant Ayerst. The action of the Chapekars was seen as terrorism.[8] The government also found the nationalist press guilty of incitement. Independence activist Bal Gangadhar Tilak was charged with sedition for his writings as editor of the Kesari newspaper. He was sentenced to eighteen months rigorous imprisonment. Public reaction to the health measures enacted by the British Indian state ultimately revealed the political constraints of medical intervention in the country. These experiences were formative in the development of India's modern public health services.[citation needed] Global distribution The network of global shipping ensured the widespread distribution of the disease over the next few decades.[9][10][11] Recorded outbreaks include: Pakhoi, China 1882. Canton, China 1894. Hong Kong 1894. Taiwan, Japan 1896 (until 1923 Great Kantō earthquake). Jeddah, 1896. Mecca, 1898. Medina, 1898.[12] Bombay Presidency, India 1896–1898. Calcutta, India 1898. Madagascar, 1898. Kobe, 1898. San Francisco, 1899. Egypt, 1899. Manchuria, China 1899. Paraguay, 1899. South Africa, 1899–1902. Republic of Hawaii, 1899.[13][14] Glasgow, United Kingdom, 1900.[15] San Francisco, United States, 1900.[16][17][18] Manila, 1900. Australia, 1900–1905. Russian Empire/Soviet Union, 1900–1927. Fukien Province, China 1901. Siam, 1904. Burma, 1905. Tunisia, 1907. Trinidad, Venezuela, Peru and Ecuador, 1908. Bolivia and Brazil, 1908. Cuba and Puerto Rico, 1912. Each of these areas, as well as Great Britain, France, and other areas of Europe, continued to experience plague outbreaks and casualties until the 1960s. The last significant outbreak of plague associated with the pandemic occurred in Peru and Argentina in 1945. The 1894 Hong Kong plague The 1894 Hong Kong plague was a major outbreak of the third pandemic in the world from the late 19th century to the early 20th century. In May 1894, the first case occurred in Hong Kong. The patient was a national hospital clerk and was discovered by Dr. Yu Xun, the dean of the National Hospital, who had just returned from Guangzhou. When the Chinese-style buildings were built, the Taiping Mountain area in Sheung Wan, the most densely populated area in Hong Kong, became the hardest hit area of the epidemic. Controlling the epidemic naturally became the top priority of the Governor of Hong Kong. From May to October 1894, the plague in Hong Kong killed more than 2,000 people and one-third of the population fled Hong Kong. In the 30 years after 1926, the plague occurred in Hong Kong almost every year, killing more than 20,000 people. Through the maritime traffic in Hong Kong, the plague epidemic originating in Yunnan, China, spread to all parts of the country after 1894 and eventually spread to all continents where humans live.[citation needed] There were several reasons for the rapid outbreak and rapid spread of the plague. First, in the early days of Kailuan, Sheung Wan was a Chinese settlement. It is located in the mountains. The design of the houses there included no drainage channels, toilets or running water. Intensive buildings and a lack of floor tiles were also weaknesses in housing design at the time. Secondly, during the Ching Ming Festival in 1894, many Chinese living in Hong Kong returned to the countryside to sweep the graves, which coincided with the outbreak of the epidemic in Guangzhou and the introduction of bacteria into Hong Kong. In addition, in the first four months of 1894, rainfall decreased and soil dried up, accelerating the spread of the plague.[19] The measures[which?] mainly included three aspects: setting up plague hospitals and deploying medical staff to treat and isolate plague patients; conducting house-to-house search operations, discovering and transferring plague patients, and cleaning and disinfecting infected houses and areas; and setting up designated cemeteries and assigning a person responsible for transporting and burying the plague dead.[20] Disease research Researchers working in Asia during the "Third Pandemic" identified plague vectors and the plague bacillus. In 1894, in Hong Kong, Swiss-born French bacteriologist Alexandre Yersin isolated the responsible bacterium (Yersinia pestis, named for Yersin) and determined the common mode of transmission. His discoveries led in time to modern treatment methods, including insecticides, the use of antibiotics and eventually plague vaccines. In 1898, French researcher Paul-Louis Simond demonstrated the role of fleas as a vector. The disease is caused by a bacterium usually transmitted by the bite of fleas from an infected host, often a black rat. The bacteria are transferred from the blood of infected rats to the rat flea (Xenopsylla cheopsis). The bacillus multiplies in the stomach of the flea, blocking it. When the flea next bites a mammal, the consumed blood is regurgitated along with the bacillus into the bloodstream of the bitten animal. Any serious outbreak of plague in humans is preceded by an outbreak in the rodent population. During the outbreak, infected fleas that have lost their normal rodent hosts seek other sources of blood. The British colonial government in India pressed medical researcher Waldemar Haffkine to develop a plague vaccine. After three months of persistent work with a limited staff, a form for human trials was ready. On January 10, 1897 Haffkine tested it on himself. After the initial test was reported to the authorities, volunteers at the Byculla jail were used in a control test, all inoculated prisoners survived the epidemics, while seven inmates of the control group died. By the turn of the century, the number of inoculees in India alone reached four million. Haffkine was appointed the Director of the Plague Laboratory (now called Haffkine Institute) in Bombay.[21] See also Timeline of plague Great Plague of London (1665) References   Cohn, Samuel K. (2003). The Black Death Transformed: Disease and Culture in Early Renaissance Europe. A Hodder Arnold. p. 336. ISBN 0-340-70646-5.   Infectious Diseases: Plague Through History, sciencemag.org   ListVerse.com (2009). The Ultimate Book of Top Ten Lists: A Mind-Boggling Collection of Fun, Fascinating and Bizarre Facts on Movies, Music, Sports, Crime, Ce. Ulysses Press. ISBN 978-1569758007.   Nicholas Wade (October 31, 2010). "Europe's Plagues Came From China, Study Finds". The New York Times. 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Plague: The Mysterious Past and Terrifying Future of the World's Most Dangerous Disease. New York: Free Press, 2004. ISBN 0-7432-3685-8. External links
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