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Old 11-11-2016, 10:29 AM   #57

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My Conclusion So Far

If you don’t see it then you just don’t see it. You either buy globalism as an inevitable symptom of progress or, like me, you believe it is driven by an intellectual elite who are far removed from the consequences of their wet dream.

Brexit and Trump represent a rejection of this ideology. The stays quo doesn't just need to be adjusted, it needs to be smashed, hence the extreme rhetoric. A fresh coat of paint isn't going to cut it anymore.

I honestly believe that we are much safer under Trump re relations with Russia, than we would have been under "we came, we saw, he died" warmongering Clinton. I don't buy the endless propaganda against Russia, which began as soon as they exposed the US compromised handling of the middle east. Not a scrap of evidence for hacking etc.

So, go ahead, call me a friend of Putin, because these days there is only one opinion tolerated. Anyone who disagrees is a racist a xenophobe or a socialist (god forbid) homophobic, or a trotskyist, or a loony and fruitcake, or a traitor. And anyone who represents an alternative agenda who wins support is a 'populist'

Because let's face it, working class people should just know their place shouldn't they? They should listen to those who know better. Well, they've stopped listening. They've heard it all before.

People have put the jigsaw pieces together and it's not a pretty picture. They are no longer likely to be persuaded that they are not seeing things clearly by the people they hold responsible for this. Just too many lies and bad results. Greece smashed by the banks, The middle east smashed by the neocons.. It's a long list.

Now we can be bored to death while the losers dissect what went wrong and bleat on about how the stupids will reap what they've sown. Maybe a few more people will go out and protest- every issue is a protest march these days, which is probably why the media is not covering most of it. Protest itself has become devalued under the demands of it's own overpopulated time table. There's probably another one due in 5 minutes.

Trying to shut down an alternative opinion (on anything) has failed at last. Long may it continue to fail. I will not be told what to think, what to say and what to believe by anyone, particularly a liberal intellectual elite who support slaughter in the middle east, and can only see a future of perpetual war and hostility to any other world view while they illegally enrich themselves.

Globalism doesn't represent for me what it says on the tin. I'm not a globalist, we are not, we are individuals. I don't believe in the common good, I just believe in being good. Globalism is simply a corporate mask, an excuse for capitalism to rape entire counties under a new banner. I don't want to be forced to love my fellow man. I'll choose who I love and who I don't.

I'm sick of listening to the outrage and fear surrounding Trump. The establishment, in their remote arrogance, have underestimated Farage, Trump and a great many people who are utterly sick of the corruption, failed ideology and injustice on their watch. Hence we see these current events. It's time. In fact, it's way past time.

Trump has won. The losers are the joke pollsters, the hideously biased media, and those who are so remote that they didn't see it coming. Assange and the alternative media just exposed too much corruption for people to support Clinton. This time they were in no mood to simply shrug and say politics is a dirty business. They are demanding real transparency and accountability and not just the words but real action. ( Trump-' Drain the swamp')

But the world isn't going to change overnight. I'm not excited, just optimistic that the build up of troops on Russia’s border was the last gasp of the neocon manifesto.

Let's hope that this is the beginning of a new era in which we rethink how we organise society in a way that works for the majority and not just for the few.

I believe that the same people who didn't see it coming are often the people who fear Trump is too extreme. But I think he will become more presidential as time goes by. We already saw a process of softening the tone all the way through from the primaries to after the last debate and his meeting with Obama.. I think he has outsmarted the system so far. Maybe, with the right people around him, he can bring some new ideas to the table as an outsider (to politics)

I don't buy the fearmongering about the rise of fascism, although I can very well understand why people have that concern right now. It’s certainly something to be vigilant about, but we mustn’t let the established voices cry wolf.

To be realistic, the structure of our society is so embedded that it will still take an enormous sea change towards a truly new era, something I don’t believe will happen In my lifetime.
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The overnight drop and recovery was just like Brexit. History never repeats but it rhymes so I don't see it going straight up from here . But as you say, trade it as you see it. Good volatility so far.
Lovely price action...

I'm going to have to wipe the silly grin off my face before leaving the house today. It's not appropriate to be so giddy in the face of another's suffering. I hope the adults in the room don't take away his "twitter" account.

I really am upset over the whole thing... no, really... Hee hee!!!
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More just saying...

We have elected the "boy king" Trumpthecommon. Sorry... it may take a while to work this one off... it's not good, but it was in the cards. The GOP is just as dumbfounded as any of us, but they will use it to their advantage... for a time.

For anyone who believes "this" is change, the hole has just been dug a little deeper. For all those who voted for the guy... it's not going to go like you thought.

It's my own opinion... hope I'm wrong.

Edit: I live in a state where this grand experiment has been tried, and failed miserably (Kansas). Our credit rating has been cut, we can't fund our schools, the highway fund has been robbed to pay for this ideological nonsense (trickle down economics). It doesn't work any better than Obomacare does. It's just another flavor of failure conducted by the "govmnt"... just another flavor of bad taste in your mouth.
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The mainstream media would like you to hear the other side for a change....

In a world where lies and rumors replace facts, and become central to the corporate media narrative; in such a world you only feel absolute comfort when you sit down with friends, allies, and partners who share your principles, values, and ethical standards, and do not dispute the fundamentals of your principles and objectives.

As you go smoothly through the meeting’s agenda, simply because everyone means what he says and does what he promises, you start thinking about the difficulties you face with the other side, and you remember that the reasons behind the pointless discussion with their officials are lack of honesty and the contradictions between their true motives and what they express in public. Right there, you sense what is wrong with our world today, and what is the main source for the troubles we face, ranging from wasting time in pointless discussion all the way to the loss of innocent lives, the destruction of countries, and denying entire generations the right to education and a free and dignified life.

The foreign ministers of the Russian Federation, the Syrian Arab Republic, and the Islamic Republic of Iran met in Moscow, and it was clear that all of them are departing from a deep belief in the sovereignty of states, a rejection of foreign intervention, the right of people to decide their fate away from foreign dictates, a rejection of land grab by force, and absolute solidarity with peoples suffering injustice and the loss of their rights. And when the discussion is based on such principles, and on the unity of ideas, values, and ethics, it is not too difficult for such a discussion to reach important strategic conclusion, which would shape the future.

In such a meeting, hegemonic, colonial, and superior attitudes are completely absent; and you start to remember how hateful the racist approach present in meetings with Westerners, which demands you to prove your innocence at every juncture, thus robbing you of your humanity and your right to be treated equal, which should have been a nonissue in the first place.

In the Moscow meeting, I saw the coming world in which our children and grandchildren would live, a world devoid of racism; a world in which politicians, the media, and all people are honest and respectful of all human beings regardless of race, gender or creed. A world, all the inhabitants of which, wherever they may be, feel a sense of belonging and share a stake in its preservation and progress. A world in which everyone accepts and cherishes the different cultures and languages, and sees them as a gift from God rather than a pretext for national and racial supremacist claims. For despite all what Westerners and their media claim, the truth is that Western treatment of all other countries is a racist and supremacist treatment that seeks to advance the interests of the West at the expense of the rest of the world.

Looking at this coming world, I feel that the sacrifices of our martyrs and wounded were not only for us, but also for all mankind, for a better world and a better future. Looking at this future world, I am certain that we are living in a difficult phase of history resulting from the difference between what the West says and what it does, because it is fighting to preserve its colonial ways and its preferred methods of humiliating, destroying, and looting other peoples for its own benefit.

Looking at the future of our children and grandchildren, I feel that the battle we are fighting today was inevitable, and that it is for the greater good and for a better future for the coming generations. In this rich and constructive meeting in Moscow, I felt that the entire world is uniting to reject once and for all the concept of hegemony, and to reconstruct international relations on the basis parity, of respect, and shared interests.

Wherever I go, and whenever I write, I never forget to pay homage to the souls of our martyrs, and wish a speedy recovery to our wounded brave soldiers, because their blood and suffering are the torch that lights the path to freedom and dignity. I also do not forget to salute everyone who believed in the inevitability of victory, despite all the difficulties, and worked hard to achieve this victory, offering his life, money, effort, and prayers. As for the traitors, culprits, war profiteers, and those who call on the enemy to invade their country, they will be forgotten and they will never appear in the pages of history ever again.


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Old 11-12-2016, 09:15 AM   #61

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This an interesting piece on cycles that predicted a Trump.
https://caldaro.wordpress.com/2010/1...lbear-markets/

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NEW YORK TIMES
To our readers,

Dear deplorables,
When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our newsroom turned on a dime and did what it has done for nearly two years — cover the 2016 election with agility and creativity.
When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our ‘newsroom’ tried to pretend they were real journalists, while our bosses tried to figure out how to stay in business in a world that increasingly doesn’t need us anymore.

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality (you mean… popularity?) lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters? What forces and strains in America drove this divisive election and outcome? You really still don’t get it do you? Ironic that the media has no clue what's going on isn't it?

Most important, how will a president who remains a largely enigmatic figure actually govern when he takes office? Hopefully by setting up an independent press complaints panel populated by nobody from the 1%, how about that for a start?

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Why did we write fake news instead of just reporting it?

As we reflect on this week’s momentous result, and the months of reporting and polling that preceded it, we aim to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism.
Or you could just go fuck yourselves instead- guarantee that will sell more papers going forward.

That is to report America and the world honestly, Liars always, always give themselves away by their own choice of words- you just admitted that you have not been honest without fear or favor, Your going to find that a little difficult if you can’t even spell favour, you can’t survive without supporting the 1% striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. Yeah, fine, carry on with your ‘stories’, meanwhile, we’ll get the news from the real journalists.

It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. We believe we reported on both candidates fairly during the presidential campaign. Then exactly what are you apologising for ?

You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same ‘fairness’, the same level of ‘scrutiny,’ the same’ independence’ to our coverage of the new president and his team. You know what, why don’t you just sit this one out Einstein? Buy yourself a dictionary for christmas.

We cannot deliver the 'independent', original'' journalism for which we are known Yeah, we know- without the loyalty of our subscribers. We want to take this opportunity, on behalf of all Times journalists, to thank you for that loyalty. I can’t wait for the day you and your kind go bankrupt. I’ll get to read about in in the real news media. One day you’ll get it that you and your friends are the reason America has Trump for a president. Enjoy.

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Old 11-14-2016, 11:02 AM   #63
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This an interesting piece on cycles that predicted a Trump.
https://caldaro.wordpress.com/2010/1...lbear-markets/
Strauss and Howe are a ‘hier’ away from the Pendulum book I’ve discussed recently ( ... got to get around to reading both someday ) . Their model is set up on a 4 way (like seasonal) cycle while the Pend model is set up on a 2 way (polarity) viewpoint of ‘generations’ between the culminations of ‘individual prized’ and of the ‘collective esteemed’. In a way the Strauss and Howe model comes from the ‘nurture’ aspect while the Pend model orients more to the ‘nature’ aspects of these generational progressions.

Eelliioott Wave was mentioned. I have posted elsewhere that “Ralph was studying socionomics first ... ” . In that light, these ‘days of the trump’ could be seen as an EW correction to the current ‘collective/we valued’ impulse wave ... and this ‘centralized power’ thememe is far from complete btw. In such a ‘corrective’ context, it is not pathological conspiracy thinking to allow that trump (like a lot of corrective waves) is also a ‘falsehood’ ...Bcse, like it or not - we live in a time of organized LIES. ... Others arrive by train.*

You?ll Only Understand Trump and Brexit If You Understand the Failure of Globalization

* Blocks Of Anti-Trump Protest Buses Caught On Tape
(quik view at https://youtu.be/2OVHb-zc4Lw )

4-minute video: ?Dear Liberal friends horrified by President Trump, Welcome back to the Resistance, bitches!?
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... just Sayin...

how do u know what their saying isint the sad truth is you doint just sayin

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