[TimRacette]

I think there is a lot of subconscious analysis that goes on aside from the system itself, "Trader Intuition." To be able to fully pass along a system and have it function with someone else behind the wheel is pretty difficult, if not impossible without making at least slight changes.

[Predictor]

@Tim Good insight.

I honestly think John and Hubert are 100% focused on selling crap. This was my impression from being in their room during a trial period, watching their videos, etc.

If you can't produce trade statements (or you make it clear you trade sim) then you have no business offering education. Also, if you don't show your performance then how the heck am I too know that your methods are worthwhile enough for me? I don't and I cant.

The people who believe they can't show statements because of rules are gullible and weak.

Having said this, let me say that part of getting a sale is getting the buyer pumped up and confident. If you find they help with your motivation then that might be worth something. You may also get basic public domain information from the free stuff they offer too.

[TimRacette]

@light I agree with all that, although I would like to play devils advocate and say that I do find John Carter and Hubert to be legit. At least he trades size YouTube - ‪Live Emini Futures Trade‬‏

[Predictor]

@Tim

The top of the DOM In that picture is cut off. It could be in sim mode. Also, a good vendor can make millions from sales. Showing some live trades at a potential cost of even thousands of dollars would be justifiable.

I would imagine that he is trading live, obviously he has people come and sit with him. That doesn't mean that he is profitable to a worthwhile extent, however. Say, he is only marginally profitable or losing, again by not making any performance claims it protects them.

Originally Posted by TimRacette »

@light I agree with all that, although I would like to play devils advocate and say that I do find John Carter and Hubert to be legit. At least he trades size YouTube - ‪Live Emini Futures Trade‬‏

[TimRacette]

You may have successfully changed my view with that comment. Interesting.