Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

parliament718

Identifying a Price Action Pattern - Examples Included

Recommended Posts

Hi,

Im trying to code a system based on a specific price action pattern. However Ive been trying a few days to accurately identify this pattern in code with little success. I can spot them out with the eye without a problem but I cant seem to figure out how to spot them in code because they come in slightly different shapes. Can somebody help out, some pseudo code or suggestions on how to approach is would really help.

 

Basically, the tunnel lines are just SMA's of the high and the low. Im looking for price to form this pattern and then close below the lower SMA for a short, or above the higher SMA for a long. The swings have to be well-defined (rather than "flat" waves, characteristic of consolidation zones). One of my attempts was to filter out these "flat" waves from the well-defined ones was by using an ADX filter.

 

Its most reliable when (for a short) during the 2nd wave the price comes out of the tunnel at the top (doesnt have to close above it) and then retreats back into the tunnel towards the bottom, and then closes below the bottom SMA.

 

There are of course other conditions and filters but this is somewhat the base of the system and Im having much trouble. Here's a compilation of examples.

 

uiLov.png

 

Thanks so much

Edited by parliament718

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi,

Im trying to code a system based on a specific price action pattern. However Ive been trying a few days to accurately identify this pattern in code with little success. I can spot them out with the eye without a problem but I cant seem to figure out how to spot them in code because they come in slightly different shapes. Can somebody help out, some pseudo code or suggestions on how to approach is would really help.

 

Basically, the tunnel lines are just SMA's of the high and the low. Im looking for price to form this pattern and then close below the lower SMA for a short, or above the higher SMA for a long. The swings have to be well-defined (rather than "flat" waves, characteristic of consolidation zones). One of my attempts was to filter out these "flat" waves from the well-defined ones was by using an ADX filter.

 

Its most reliable when (for a short) during the 2nd wave the price comes out of the tunnel at the top (doesnt have to close above it) and then retreats back into the tunnel towards the bottom, and then closes below the bottom SMA.

 

There are of course other conditions and filters but this is somewhat the base of the system and Im having much trouble. Here's a compilation of examples.

 

uiLov.png

 

Thanks so much

 

 

We can make this a community project.

 

can you pick one pattern,

 

then, use point form, name 5 characteristics about this pattern?

 

they should be the 5 critical characteristics of this pattern

ie they are your trigger pullers.

use arrows and lines and poiinters and notes to supplement your descriptions

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for your reply.

 

I think part of my problem is its hard to quantify the pattern, maybe this is actually where I need help rather than the code itself. The schematic below of some solid characteristics. Please keep in mind this particular occurance is basically a perfect setup and they rarely happen like this.

 

ZeKPa.png

 

1) L-H-HL for buy H-L-LH for sell

2) second wave typically retraces to 38%-78% fib before reversing again in the initial direction and closing over the SMA.

3)SMA crossing bar is "strong" but not so strong that it causes to miss much of the move. A range of the crossing candle's body of between 7-14 pips is a sufficient condition)

 

Since it comes in many shapes as seen in the previous compilation its hard to say other solid characteristics about the actual waves without making the definition so rigid that it misses perfectly valid setups. Perhaps theyre just less obvious. Here are some observations:

 

I just tried for the first time to run Fibonacci time retracements of the first wave. After looking back at 50-100 occurances that my eye spots out as having a good structure it seems that:

 

1) if the initial first wave is 7-15 (15M) bars of time, then the low/high of the following wave is usually in the 2nd - 3rd Fibonacci time zone

2) if the initial first wave is 16- 24 (15M) bars of time, then the low/high of the following wave is usually in the 1st - 2nd Fibonacci time zone.

 

3) if first wave is less than 7 (15M) bars of time, the pattern is usually too small

4) if the first wave is more than 25 (15M) bars of time, the pattern tends to be too big.

 

Perhaps a range for the initial first wave is also called for since without such a condition the code can be vulnerable to signal on "flat" consolidation waves. As I mentioned, I had some success filtering these out by ignoring signals with ADX < 20. Perhaps ATR might be useful in this regard too.

 

Thoughts?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
We can make this a community project.

 

 

 

Seems like there's no interest in a community project like this. If anyone is interested to work privately with me to build a system based on this feel free to message me.

 

Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pattern identification is extremely hard and algorithms that do that efficiently are at the core of some commercial systems. In general, TA patterns are difficult to identify because of the imbedded randomness in the main pattern. Thomas Bulkowski has developed a program that does this and he offers it for free. You may want to contact him for general guidelines if he is available:

 

http://thepatternsite.com/patternz.html

 

Another guy who has developed an identification algorithm but for price patterns is Michael Harris. Although his program doesn't do what you are looking for his ideas have broader application:

 

The Most Advanced Tool for Analyzing Price Action and Discovering Trading Systems

 

I have seen some other programs but their identification ability is very poor. Check this website for an example of a screener where you can include TA patterns and indicators. Maybe you can contact them and get some direction:

 

Stock Screener - Overview

 

To summarize, what you are looking for is not very easy. A professional programmer of trading systems may charge up to $5,000 for the code. I paid much more for much simpler things 10 years ago.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Pattern identification is extremely hard and algorithms that do that efficiently are at the core of some commercial systems. In general, TA patterns are difficult to identify because of the imbedded randomness in the main pattern. Thomas Bulkowski has developed a program that does this and he offers it for free. You may want to contact him for general guidelines if he is available:

 

http://thepatternsite.com/patternz.html

 

Another guy who has developed an identification algorithm but for price patterns is Michael Harris. Although his program doesn't do what you are looking for his ideas have broader application:

 

The Most Advanced Tool for Analyzing Price Action and Discovering Trading Systems

 

I have seen some other programs but their identification ability is very poor. Check this website for an example of a screener where you can include TA patterns and indicators. Maybe you can contact them and get some direction:

 

Stock Screener - Overview

 

To summarize, what you are looking for is not very easy. A professional programmer of trading systems may charge up to $5,000 for the code. I paid much more for much simpler things 10 years ago.

 

Checking back on this post now your comment helped me find two very useful articles for pattern recognition. One uses an algorithm called the PXtract algorithm:

 

PXTract Algo:

http://www.cse.ust.hk/~leichen/courses/comp630p/collection/reference-4-6.pdf

 

http://www.olsen.ch/fileadmin/Publications/Client_Papers//200405-Omrane-PredictiveSuccessProfitabilityChartPatterns.pdf

 

 

If somebody is interested to develop a pattern recognition system based on the pattern I described, then contact me. I now develop in a .NET-based Complex Event Processing (CEP) framework and software suite by Deltix. I prefer to work on systems in collaboration and besides, those articles are a bit much to digest because my math is a bit rusty these days. Hope to hear!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Checking back on this post now your comment helped me find two very useful articles for pattern recognition. One uses an algorithm called the PXtract algorithm:

 

PXTract Algo:

http://www.cse.ust.hk/~leichen/courses/comp630p/collection/reference-4-6.pdf

 

http://www.olsen.ch/fileadmin/Publications/Client_Papers//200405-Omrane-PredictiveSuccessProfitabilityChartPatterns.pdf

 

 

If somebody is interested to develop a pattern recognition system based on the pattern I described, then contact me. I now develop in a .NET-based Complex Event Processing (CEP) framework and software suite by Deltix. I prefer to work on systems in collaboration and besides, those articles are a bit much to digest because my math is a bit rusty these days. Hope to hear!

 

The first article talks about the accuracy of the identification algorithm but not about the pattern performance. Also the authors state something peculiar that "We have demonstrated how to automate the process of chart pattern extraction and recognition, which has not been discussed in previous studies." but such software is available for at least 15 years! Then they refer to Thomas Bulkowski as Thomas! "According to Thomas [14], there are totally 47 different chart patterns, which can be extracted from the time series data". This is very strange. I doubt their algorithm will work because they do not sound familiar with this subject. Bulkowski has done much more work than them long time ago for chart patterns and Harris has done the same for price patterns:

 

http://thepatternsite.com/chartpatterns.html

The Most Advanced Tool for Analyzing Price Action and Discovering Trading Systems

 

those two are all you need.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Checking back on this post now your comment helped me find two very useful articles for pattern recognition. One uses an algorithm called the PXtract algorithm:

 

PXTract Algo:

http://www.cse.ust.hk/~leichen/courses/comp630p/collection/reference-4-6.pdf

 

http://www.olsen.ch/fileadmin/Publications/Client_Papers//200405-Omrane-PredictiveSuccessProfitabilityChartPatterns.pdf

 

 

If somebody is interested to develop a pattern recognition system based on the pattern I described, then contact me. I now develop in a .NET-based Complex Event Processing (CEP) framework and software suite by Deltix. I prefer to work on systems in collaboration and besides, those articles are a bit much to digest because my math is a bit rusty these days. Hope to hear!

 

Would like to share idea on fractal pattern recognition. A lot of good traders are trading it at twitter

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • How's about other crypto exchanges? Are all they banned in your country or only Binance?
    • Be careful who you blame.   I can tell you one thing for sure.   Effective traders don’t blame others when things start to go wrong.   You can hang onto your tendency to play the victim, or the martyr… but if you want to achieve in trading, you have to be prepared to take responsibility.   People assign reasons to outcomes, whether based on internal or external factors.   When traders face losses, it's common for them to blame bad luck, poor advice, or other external factors, rather than reflecting on their own personal attributes like arrogance, fear, or greed.   This is a challenging lesson to grasp in your trading journey, but one that holds immense value.   This is called attribution theory. Taking responsibility for your actions is the key to improving your trading skills. Pause and ask yourself - What role did I play in my financial decisions?   After all, you were the one who listened to that source, and decided to act on that trade based on the rumour. Attributing results solely to external circumstances is what is known as having an ‘external locus of control’.   It's a concept coined by psychologist Julian Rotter in 1954. A trader with an external locus of control might say, "I made a profit because the markets are currently favourable."   Instead, strive to develop an "internal locus of control" and take ownership of your actions.   Assume that all trading results are within your realm of responsibility and actively seek ways to improve your own behaviour.   This is the fastest route to enhancing your trading abilities. A trader with an internal locus of control might proudly state, "My equity curve is rising because I am a disciplined trader who faithfully follows my trading plan." Author: Louise Bedford Source: https://www.tradinggame.com.au/
    • SELF IMPROVEMENT.   The whole self-help industry began when Dale Carnegie published How to Win Friends and Influence People in 1936. Then came other classics like Think And Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, Awaken the Giant Within by Tony Robbins toward the end of the century.   Today, teaching people how to improve themselves is a business. A pure ruthless business where some people sell utter bullshit.   There are broke Instagrammers and YouTubers with literally no solid background teaching men how to be attractive to women, how to begin a start-up, how to become successful — most of these guys speaking nothing more than hollow motivational words and cliche stuff. They waste your time. Some of these people who present themselves as hugely successful also give talks and write books.   There are so many books on financial advice, self-improvement, love, etc and some people actually try to read them. They are a waste of time, mostly.   When you start reading a dozen books on finance you realize that they all say the same stuff.   You are not going to live forever in the learning phase. Don't procrastinate by reading bull-shit or the same good knowledge in 10 books. What we ought to do is choose wisely.   Yes. A good book can change your life, given you do what it asks you to do.   All the books I have named up to now are worthy of reading. Tim Ferriss, Simon Sinek, Robert Greene — these guys are worthy of reading. These guys teach what others don't. Their books are unique and actually, come from relevant and successful people.   When Richard Branson writes a book about entrepreneurship, go read it. Every line in that book is said by one of the greatest entrepreneurs of our time.   When a Chinese millionaire( he claims to be) Youtuber who releases a video titled “Why reading books keeps you broke” and a year later another one “My recommendation of books for grand success” you should be wise to tell him to jump from Victoria Falls.   These self-improvement gurus sell you delusions.   They say they have those little tricks that only they know that if you use, everything in your life will be perfect. Those little tricks. We are just “making of a to-do-list before sleeping” away from becoming the next Bill Gates.   There are no little tricks.   There is no success-mantra.   Self-improvement is a trap for 99% of the people. You can't do that unless you are very, very strong.   If you are looking for easy ways, you will only keep wasting your time forgetting that your time on this planet is limited, as alive humans that is.   Also, I feel that people who claim to read like a book a day or promote it are idiots. You retain nothing. When you do read a good book, you read slow, sometimes a whole paragraph, again and again, dwelling on it, trying to internalize its knowledge. You try to understand. You think. It takes time.   It's better to read a good book 10 times than 1000 stupid ones.   So be choosy. Read from the guys who actually know something, not some wannabe ‘influencers’.   Edit: Think And Grow Rich was written as a result of a project assigned to Napoleon Hill by Andrew Carnegie(the 2nd richest man in recent history). He was asked to study the most successful people on the planet and document which characteristics made them great. He did extensive work in studying hundreds of the most successful people of that time. The result was that little book.   Nowadays some people just study Instagram algorithms and think of themselves as a Dale Carnegie or Anthony Robbins. By Nupur Nishant, Quora Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/    
    • there is no avoiding loses to be honest, its just how the market is. you win some and hopefully more, but u do lose some. 
    • $CSCO Cisco Systems stock, nice top of range breakout, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?CSCOSEPN Septerna stock watch for a bottom breakout, good upside price gap
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.