Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

thalestrader

Reading Charts in Real Time

Recommended Posts

As BF mentioned, Snag It is a great program. You might also want to check out QuickShot, which can be downloaded free from Image Shack (it takes screenshots and uploads them to your Image Shack account, then provides a link to the image so you can easily add it to a forum post), and also instead of using a program, you can just use Ctrl+Print Screen and then paste the image into good software such as Paint.NET (free), the Gimp (free), or Photoshop. You will have good results doing that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'll also attest to the value of snagit.

 

Here's the rest of the morning with snagit 8. I wasn't monitoring this trade ... I was gardening but had convinced myself I should trust Peewee and Sierra Chart to do their thing.

 

Save as ping or gif for small size with clarity.

 

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=14424&stc=1&d=1256106825

5aa70f408d30f_10-21-20094-31-19PM.png.ccd3187f25788b663c32ace7aadfaa98.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
We are in the 50% retracement area since the bottom in January to the recent high in August.

It's a long shot but 151.40 looks like a reasonable target.

Going out on a limb here, it should take about a month to get there.

 

Gabe

 

We did 80% of the move in 1 week (about 100 pips to go).

Too bad I did not listen to myself.

Should have taken a long term position.

 

Gabe

GJ_Oct_21_2009_Daily.JPG.e8ca599c98c13265c020694ed01aa672.JPG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
This USDCAD could, of course, go either way. But right now price action is leading me to anticipate higher prices. New buy point would be approx 1.0530, with targets at +100, +190, and +325 ticks.

 

Hi Folks,

 

Current look at USDCAD shows that a buy stop at 1.0530 would have been triggered.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Thales

5aa70f409a6d2_10-21-2009USDCAD1.thumb.jpg.046fcf8813bdf0b6df99e4215d73ade9.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi Folks,

 

Current look at USDCAD shows that a buy stop at 1.0530 would have been triggered.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Thales

 

Again, anything can happen ... USDCAD has moved up as high as +50. A +20 stop loss on at least part of the position would be justified, with a stop on the remaining position either at break even or at 1.0522 (-8) which was the last reaction low after the entry was triggered. The point is to let your profits run to target, but do not let what is currently a nice profit run into a losing trade.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Thales

 

EDIT: PS +20 would put it right at the mid-figure, so perhaps +15 for now might be more prudent.

 

EDIT II: As I was typing the first edit, I see, according to FXCM, that the low of this pullback as of now was 1.05493, so a +20 stop on a partial would have been triggered.

5aa70f409f68a_10-21-2009USDCAD2.thumb.jpg.f5f0bf05ff6bb0fb0e897d040d82d04f.jpg

Edited by thalestrader

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

50% retracement of GJ has been reached.

Now if only I would trust stats more.......

Next target would be 157.20 to the up side or 145.60 to the down side.

I am betting on the down side.

 

Gabe

GJ_Oct_21_2009_Daily_1.png.257092451f46acfe39dc8eb906c90ac0.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Again, anything can happen ...

 

No matter how you managed this trade, there is no reason to have remained long to this point. If a bull move is going to continue, the market will provide another opportunity to participate.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Thales

5aa70f40a9b6c_10-21-2009USDCAD3.thumb.jpg.773354645efb3fe8adfaf98c64aa79c8.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here is a breakout I am looking for on the ZN this morning.

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=14433&stc=1&d=1256132116

 

We didn't get the breakout yet. The breakout earlier in the morning I noted would have provided the better intraday position so far.

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=14434&stc=1&d=1256133631

5aa70f40b110e_ZN10-21-09.thumb.jpg.be50b5ed2e76183fea50b739167109d0.jpg

5aa70f40ba16d_zn10-21-092.thumb.jpg.6d762e29c3accc06f6773f360f9ba475.jpg

Edited by Dinerotrader

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am only looking at ths breakout because I have watched this stock a lot over the past few weeks and it can have huge moves up on breakouts. It had some major sell offs 2 days ago and yesterday this morning has some reasonable consolidation. My buy stop is at 3.68. Stop loss will be 3.65 because I am not looking for a slow channel move up. It either pops or I am out with a minimal loss.

Ticker: YRCW

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=14438&stc=1&d=1256139699

5aa70f40c97b7_YRCW10-21-09.thumb.png.81f4917b3983cc543b4135c011ff7e8f.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
No matter how you managed this trade, there is no reason to have remained long to this point...

 

The importance of cutting losses short. I had anticipated a much larger move to the upside, but the market had other ideas.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Thales

5aa70f40ce9fc_10-21-2009USDCAD4.thumb.jpg.3c6e7713b79d156f18053c9ec5fc6e52.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I am only looking at ths breakout because I have watched this stock a lot over the past few weeks and it can have huge moves up on breakouts. It had some major sell offs 2 days ago and yesterday this morning has some reasonable consolidation. My buy stop is at 3.68. Stop loss will be 3.65 because I am not looking for a slow channel move up. It either pops or I am out with a minimal loss.

Ticker: YRCW

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=14438&stc=1&d=1256139699

 

Never got my breakout but I will be watching that area going forward.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Here is a breakout I am looking for on the ZN this morning.

 

We didn't get the breakout yet. The breakout earlier in the morning I noted would have provided the better intraday position so far.

 

ZN Trade

 

Just a few comments/thoughts on this set up noted on the chart below.

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=14451&stc=1&d=1256157506

5aa70f410da1c_10-21-20092.thumb.png.4af871cf4b5a2ee7055411d387e0ee3e.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ZN Trade

 

Just a few comments/thoughts on this set up noted on the chart below.

 

I don't think your reasoning was bad. I think obviously yeah the trend was down, but in that scenario I would have been looking for the upside breakout myself as that would have been the easiest to spot, i.e., it's easy to see a S/R level when price is rejected multiple times.

 

If you are going to play the reversal, what is your entry criteria going to be?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I don't think your reasoning was bad. I think obviously yeah the trend was down, but in that scenario I would have been looking for the upside breakout myself as that would have been the easiest to spot, i.e., it's easy to see a S/R level when price is rejected multiple times.

 

If you are going to play the reversal, what is your entry criteria going to be?

 

3 things

 

1. I am still in education and "strategy discovery" territory so I am trying lots of ideas out and trying to see what sticks in my head as good risk reward plays.

 

2. I would like to have 1-3 different setups or strategies I am looking for. One setup would be a small scalp type trade with a very tight stop. Another setup would be trying to hone in on larger moves.

 

3. As far as a reversal would go on such short time frames as I was looking, I would note a S/R level with a few touch points and enter at one of the touch points expecting price to reverse once again with a stop just above the S/R level. Stop would be like 1 tick and profit target would be like 2-4 ticks depending on how price was moving. With how price acts on the ES, this would be hard to pull off but the ZN appears to make these short term S/R levels more tradable with less fakeouts. I am hoping to identify a few factors to improve my statistics for such entries.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Had a signal ealier that worked against me.

Had one better later but i did not take it :(

And now the 3rd signal.

 

Gabe

 

Moved my stop down and was hit.

On top of that I reversed and went long but chickened out IMMEDIATELY and closed the long.

 

I am definately not there yet. :(

 

Gabe

EJ_Oct_21_2009_1H_1.PNG.62af92fcb9bf23f658ef4cc6f51a0849.PNG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here are my two trades I've got on tonight.

 

I wanted to take the G/J too, but didn't take it because I didn't want to put on 3 trades after the T.O. I put myself on.

 

Both trades are kinda iffy, not moving the way I want. Both are really close to resistance, and will need a real B.O., but if they do they should both provide some good 'liquidity' as Kiwi puts it in my direction. Both have quick targets though to possibly capture something. So this thing breaks or it doesn't.

 

If not I think they are ok based on what I do. The targets are not visible as I can't get enough data on the charts, will update later if I am not stopped out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Here are my two trades I've got on tonight.

 

I wanted to take the G/J too, but didn't take it because I didn't want to put on 3 trades after the T.O. I put myself on.

 

1) Your charts are very difficult to see - it is almost as if they are invisible.

 

2) What is a "T.O."?

 

Best Wishes,

 

Thales

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1) Your charts are very difficult to see - it is almost as if they are invisible.

 

2) What is a "T.O."?

 

Best Wishes,

 

Thales

 

Ooops, my bad :crap:

 

A T.O. is a "TimeOut"..... I put myself on a T.O. because I made that execution error the other day where instead of placing my stop at B.E. the other day, I put it 100 pips higher as I obviously wasn't paying attention...... turning what I wanted to be a B.E. trade into a 100Pip loss!

 

The two trades where the E/U and G/U. Stopped on E/U, so here is an updated picture of the still live G/U trade. I may have been expecting the B.O., and should have ACTUALLY played the B.O. which would have been higher entries, instead of trying to jump the gun to get aboard soon. Looks like I might eat two stops today... :(

 

Like a wise man once said, "I would bet that 90%+ of all trades that were breakeven or losses that are blamed on "false breakouts" are nothing more than a trader trading a test to establish a level's importance, rather than the breakout from a level the significance of which has already been established."

 

------EDIT------

Yep two full stopouts. Crappy week for me thus far. :(

21Oct2009_Summary.thumb.jpg.76feb6d1bc823ffa04d07cd87154c87f.jpg

Edited by forrestang

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here are a few questions about the ES for Thales or anyone who has an opinion.

 

Question1: The gap today was minimal to non-existant. Does this usually invalidate the type of trading you like to do on the ES? If the gap is filled, do you take trades in the direction of the fill, or opposite, just more explanation on that please?

 

For this next two questions, please see the chart. The left is a 24 hour 15 min for some type of larger view and context.

 

Question2: As shown on the pic at point 1, there was really no big picture context at that level, but there where two tests to speak of. Is this a trade you would be interested in?

 

Question3: As shown on the pic at point 2, there is a bit of bigger picture context in that the level was tested 3 times, and also is the RTH high. Does this seem like a trade that makes sense in terms of ES trading? Also do the green targets above make sense? Or would you say this breakout point is a bad location due to the various overhead resistance points?

5aa70f42110b4_ESQuestion.thumb.jpg.2249ef52600e8ecb438f9de4e3a5d9f8.jpg

Edited by forrestang

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here is an interesting chart. Playing some sort of breakout or reversal within the channel appears reasonable here but I feel like maybe the setup is not optimal enough to take. Waiting to take the very best setups with the best risk/reward profiles is something I am currently working on. I will probably just watch this one play out.

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=14477&stc=1&d=1256230803

5aa70f42196db_10-22-20091.thumb.png.100c3a30caa3a2b0911c8b2497d39491.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Here is an interesting chart. Playing some sort of breakout or reversal within the channel appears reasonable here but I feel like maybe the setup is not optimal enough to take. Waiting to take the very best setups with the best risk/reward profiles is something I am currently working on. I will probably just watch this one play out.

 

 

Cool chart!! Something I've found interesting when in a channel like that, for indication into which way it may break is a series of HLs or LHs.

 

For example, if it's going to break to the downside, I think if it starts to display a series of LHs into the Support, while the bottom remains relatively flat is a good trade to the downside.

 

This is just one factor to look at of course, but an observation nonetheless. See the picture of breakage to the downside.

observation.jpg.65adfb810a7ef000fdf4b5726ab09a44.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Be careful who you blame.   I can tell you one thing for sure.   Effective traders don’t blame others when things start to go wrong.   You can hang onto your tendency to play the victim, or the martyr… but if you want to achieve in trading, you have to be prepared to take responsibility.   People assign reasons to outcomes, whether based on internal or external factors.   When traders face losses, it's common for them to blame bad luck, poor advice, or other external factors, rather than reflecting on their own personal attributes like arrogance, fear, or greed.   This is a challenging lesson to grasp in your trading journey, but one that holds immense value.   This is called attribution theory. Taking responsibility for your actions is the key to improving your trading skills. Pause and ask yourself - What role did I play in my financial decisions?   After all, you were the one who listened to that source, and decided to act on that trade based on the rumour. Attributing results solely to external circumstances is what is known as having an ‘external locus of control’.   It's a concept coined by psychologist Julian Rotter in 1954. A trader with an external locus of control might say, "I made a profit because the markets are currently favourable."   Instead, strive to develop an "internal locus of control" and take ownership of your actions.   Assume that all trading results are within your realm of responsibility and actively seek ways to improve your own behaviour.   This is the fastest route to enhancing your trading abilities. A trader with an internal locus of control might proudly state, "My equity curve is rising because I am a disciplined trader who faithfully follows my trading plan." Author: Louise Bedford Source: https://www.tradinggame.com.au/
    • SELF IMPROVEMENT.   The whole self-help industry began when Dale Carnegie published How to Win Friends and Influence People in 1936. Then came other classics like Think And Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, Awaken the Giant Within by Tony Robbins toward the end of the century.   Today, teaching people how to improve themselves is a business. A pure ruthless business where some people sell utter bullshit.   There are broke Instagrammers and YouTubers with literally no solid background teaching men how to be attractive to women, how to begin a start-up, how to become successful — most of these guys speaking nothing more than hollow motivational words and cliche stuff. They waste your time. Some of these people who present themselves as hugely successful also give talks and write books.   There are so many books on financial advice, self-improvement, love, etc and some people actually try to read them. They are a waste of time, mostly.   When you start reading a dozen books on finance you realize that they all say the same stuff.   You are not going to live forever in the learning phase. Don't procrastinate by reading bull-shit or the same good knowledge in 10 books. What we ought to do is choose wisely.   Yes. A good book can change your life, given you do what it asks you to do.   All the books I have named up to now are worthy of reading. Tim Ferriss, Simon Sinek, Robert Greene — these guys are worthy of reading. These guys teach what others don't. Their books are unique and actually, come from relevant and successful people.   When Richard Branson writes a book about entrepreneurship, go read it. Every line in that book is said by one of the greatest entrepreneurs of our time.   When a Chinese millionaire( he claims to be) Youtuber who releases a video titled “Why reading books keeps you broke” and a year later another one “My recommendation of books for grand success” you should be wise to tell him to jump from Victoria Falls.   These self-improvement gurus sell you delusions.   They say they have those little tricks that only they know that if you use, everything in your life will be perfect. Those little tricks. We are just “making of a to-do-list before sleeping” away from becoming the next Bill Gates.   There are no little tricks.   There is no success-mantra.   Self-improvement is a trap for 99% of the people. You can't do that unless you are very, very strong.   If you are looking for easy ways, you will only keep wasting your time forgetting that your time on this planet is limited, as alive humans that is.   Also, I feel that people who claim to read like a book a day or promote it are idiots. You retain nothing. When you do read a good book, you read slow, sometimes a whole paragraph, again and again, dwelling on it, trying to internalize its knowledge. You try to understand. You think. It takes time.   It's better to read a good book 10 times than 1000 stupid ones.   So be choosy. Read from the guys who actually know something, not some wannabe ‘influencers’.   Edit: Think And Grow Rich was written as a result of a project assigned to Napoleon Hill by Andrew Carnegie(the 2nd richest man in recent history). He was asked to study the most successful people on the planet and document which characteristics made them great. He did extensive work in studying hundreds of the most successful people of that time. The result was that little book.   Nowadays some people just study Instagram algorithms and think of themselves as a Dale Carnegie or Anthony Robbins. By Nupur Nishant, Quora Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/    
    • there is no avoiding loses to be honest, its just how the market is. you win some and hopefully more, but u do lose some. 
    • $CSCO Cisco Systems stock, nice top of range breakout, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?CSCOSEPN Septerna stock watch for a bottom breakout, good upside price gap
    • $CSCO Cisco Systems stock, nice top of range breakout, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?CSCOSEPN Septerna stock watch for a bottom breakout, good upside price gap
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.