Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

RobinMeade

95% Failure and Options Trading?

Recommended Posts

It seems like most people are here to trade Forex or some kind of form of day trading. I saw the post about 95% failure (or maybe more) in Forex, does anyone know if the same ratio applies to Options trading? Or what is the failure rate? It seems like Options trading is safer to trade or am I totally mistaken?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Results <> 95%.

A few (~18% imo) can survive. A tiny few (1-3%) will thrive.

It’s system-dependent. It’s trader dependent.

 

Think of like this ... Actuary-ly, it is highly improbable that one will make a fortune (or even a good living) as a buyer of insurance policies (unless you have the kahoons to be an arsonist ;) ). With options, sans reliable and enduring inside info, it’s tough to consistently and safely project the ETA of swans (of any color) over and over... just ask Taleb

 

Learning how to sell premium is no small feat either... requires authentic and serious Actuary-ly.

Most can’t even keep up with the greeks ... so have very slim chance of getting up even with greeks enough to learn how to manipulate and capitalize on them...

 

Contrary to the ‘risk is limited to premium paid’ voice of trading promotion memes, a more helpful, but absent, guideline would be - it takes rather massive levels of capital to buy or to sell premium successfully... Capital that for most could be similarly leveraged elsewhere for better and more stable returns ... Ie for most people option trading is ‘pushing a string’

(with the 'psychological' 'benefits'... that)

Statistically, options trading is a way to modulate the rapidity of the ultimate results - typically allows (the appearance of, at least of) a medium burn rate and dodges the alternatives - death by a thousand tiny ‘burns’ or a meteoric “sudden unexpected disassembly”.

 

hth

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

95% failiure is some what close to the number people tell forex traders, its really all up to the traders if they are to exert enough effort to learn the trade then yes they will succeed sooner or later, and brokers should be choosen wiely like optiontrade is a good name in the industry today and others. just exert the effort to learn the ins and outs and traders should be fine.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not sure about the %, but it's true that most of the Forex traders are loser. Because, maximum new Forex trader want to earn money without learning. Therefore, only few traders I mean knowledgeable Forex traders can make here consistent money.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You may have heard 90% or 95% of traders lose money, or some other seemingly high statistic. From what I've personally seen, this is accurate. While I traded for a day trading firm, about 10 people came in every couple months for trader training, or about 60 per year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • 📁 Population in 2100, as projected by UN Population Division.   🇮🇳 India: 1,533 million 🇨🇳 China: 771 million 🇳🇬 Nigeria: 546 million 🇵🇰 Pakistan: 487 million 🇨🇩 Congo: 431 million 🇺🇸 US: 394 million 🇪🇹 Ethiopia: 323 million 🇮🇩 Indonesia: 297 million 🇹🇿 Tanzania: 244 million 🇪🇬 Egypt: 205 million 🇧🇷 Brazil: 185 million 🇵🇭 Philippines: 180 million 🇧🇩 Bangladesh: 177 million 🇳🇪 Niger: 166 million 🇸🇩 Sudan: 142 million 🇦🇴 Angola: 133 million 🇺🇬 Uganda: 132 million 🇲🇽 Mexico: 116 million 🇰🇪 Kenya: 113 million 🇷🇺 Russia: 112 million 🇮🇶 Iraq: 111 million 🇦🇫 Afghanistan: 110 million   @FinancialWorldUpdates Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/   
    • “If the West finds itself falling behind in AI, it won’t be due to a lack of technological prowess or resources. It won’t be because we weren’t smart enough or didn’t move fast enough. It will be because of something many of our Eastern counterparts don’t share with us: fear of AI.   The root of the West's fear of AI can no doubt be traced back to decades of Hollywood movies and books that have consistently depicted AI as a threat to humanity. From the iconic "Terminator" franchise to the more recent "Ex Machina," we have been conditioned to view AI as an adversary, a force that will ultimately turn against us.   In contrast, Eastern cultures have a WAY different attitude towards AI. As UN AI Advisor Neil Sahota points out, "In Eastern culture, movies, and books, they've always seen AI and robots as helpers and assistants, as a tool to be used to further the benefit of humans."   This positive outlook on AI has allowed countries like Japan, South Korea, and China to forge ahead with AI development, including in areas like healthcare, where AI is being used to improve the quality of services.   The West's fear of AI is not only shaping public opinion but also influencing policy decisions and regulatory frameworks. The European Union, for example, recently introduced AI legislation prioritizing heavy-handed protection over supporting innovation.   While such measures might be well-intentioned, they risk stifling AI development and innovation, making it harder for Western companies and researchers to compete.   Among the nations leading common-sense AI regulation, one stands out for now: Singapore.” – Chris C Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/ 
    • $NFLX Netflix stock hold at 556.59 support or breakdown?  https://stockconsultant.com/?NFLX
    • $RDNT Radnet stock flat top breakout watch, https://stockconsultant.com/?RDNT
    • $GNK Genco Shipping stock narrow range breakout watch, also see $GOGL https://stockconsultant.com/?GNK
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.