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  1. How I Would Charge for a Trading Course/system

    Well, if you know Schoool Of Patience And Discipline: let me know. Only professional trading courses devote time to such. Psychology is the biggest aspect of hiring in serious trading firm, not boiler rooms. There is a reason why 95% fail: most come for the love of money, not for the love of the game, while battling their own demons, but refusing to accept responsibility for failures in life. It is not a graduate school, that most can afford. Will be lovely if there was one, but it will be a pricey and lengthy process with exclusive acceptance only after selective screening. Sadly, I know traders who have been in the industry for 10+ years, barely making a living, knowing quite well" The Biggest Enemy Is Me", but wasting time working with indicators/algorithms vs. working on themselves.
  2. How I Would Charge for a Trading Course/system

    Re: How I Would Charge for a Trading Course/system -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, Laguna: I'm not sure I agree with you. I think that discipline and patience can be taught. Little kids aren't disciplined or patient but they learn (at least some of them do). Even adults can learn discipline and patience - look at what happens in the armed forces. As for most adults, if they have a good enough motivator, they can learn just about anything if they are given the right information. As to loving trading, I think that people love different things about the experience of trading. I started out loving the "puzzle" aspect of trading. Some love the challenge, some love that they are in control of their time and effort, etc. If traders become successful, I think they love the rewards of trading. So, if you can teach trading successfully, maybe, in the end, you are teaching love of trading. Well, if you know Schoool Of Patience And Discipline: let me know. Only professional trading courses devote time to such. Psychology is the biggest aspect of hiring in serious trading firm, not boiler rooms. There is a reason why 95% fail: most come for the love of money, not for the love of the game, while battling their own demons, but refusing to accept responsibility for failures in life. It is not a graduate school, that most can afford. Will be lovely if there was one, but it will be a pricey and lengthy process with exclusive acceptance only after selective screening. Sadly, I know traders who have been in the industry for 10+ years, barely making a living, knowing quite well" The Biggest Enemy Is Me", but wasting time working with indicators/algorithms vs. working on themselves.
  3. How I Would Charge for a Trading Course/system

    Originally Posted by laguna Trading Is All About Discipline and Patience: It Cant Be Taught. It Cant Be Read In The Book. It Cant Be Bought. I never said " Trading Cant Be Taught: I said Discipline and Patience Cant Be Taught. Once that aquired: Skies Are The Limit. Both: Discipline and Patience are required for any long lasting success in life: if its business, sport, hobby, relationship...you name it..Lottery and incredible dumb luck may be the only exception. Working 20+ hrs in trading, including weekends..took me where I like to stay.for a while...Hope to go mich futher: still work 10-12 hr days, cause I Do Love Trading: That Is Something That Cant Be Taught Either.
  4. How I Would Charge for a Trading Course/system

    Trading Is All About Discipline and Patience: It Cant Be Taught. It Cant Be Read In The Book. It Cant Be Bought. I had made an effort to teach trading, and it was the worst headache ever. If I will ever do so in the future: it will be a very selective process. There is a reason, why it is diffcult to get in to Harvard. Accepting a bunch of clueless and naive into trading is a receipe for disaster, but is surely a great scam, which are plenty. Good trader does not need a headache of dealing with clueless: there is much more money made in trading, than teaching how to trade. Most so called Teachers on the net never made money trading, therefore they have to teach...sadly most are teaching only how to lose money. If person is able to do anything that requires great dedication, such as: run marathon, quit smoking, stop drinking, become a yogi, practice meditation: there is hope. Just like all above: trading is doing the same thing each and every day : just like when you start yoga: you cant touch your toes, then one day bingo: You are a Pretzel..So Is Trading.. Ask yourself where do you fit in? Being hones may save you a whole a lot of money. The way you do one thing in life is the way you do everything. Life Is A Habit and So Is Trading: making it healthy or unhealthy is purely your choice. Noone taught me how to trade: after being scammed many times over: I taught myself..just like all above.
  5. Absolutely! Having done few business: it is by far my fav thing to do. When I travel or on vacay: I Miss Trading and will always trade, no matter how much money I have.
  6. Why Are You a Trader?

    Being a girl, I came into trading, being ridiculed by all or watching my friends and family, trying to avoid subject all together..and starting out in August 2008..and being RE investor..it was a pretty wild ride..But I strongly believed that if I followed my passion and walked through enough pain, I will get there, I learned the following: To me trading offers sense of intellectual and emotional achievement on a scale, that very few careers can offer. Adding on top never boring markets, and it is The Funnest Game In Town, as long as You Stay Humble and Never Ever Ever Take Your Wins For Granted. I see it as running marathon: when you start you are in excrutiating pain, that eventually gets better, and one day you notice, that running 20+ miles ( even in thongs) is possible.. or as yoga: when you start you can barely reach your toes( ouch...never ever in thongs)...but suddenly you become a Pretzel! To all of you That Are Passionate About Trading, but are going through pain: and willing to spend 10,000 hrs of your own labor ( few of lucky ones may be a bit less) not with indicators and such: you will get to the fun part eventually. If You Are In Trading Purely For Money: get the heck out ...its aint going to happen: safe yourself a lot of grief.
  7. Trading Rooms

    Found lovely new room: tradingliveonline, that seems to be Kosher based on Harmonics and Fibs: trading ES, but looking at Euro as well. Had not seen losing trades yet, and love the fact, that their seious about Fibs
  8. Trading Rooms

    Josch, I agree with the following: Caroline is Honest and Her Method Is Good as well as her book. And she states clearly in her webinars, that she tried to become a trader, but did not succeed. Profile Traders is a different story and I will stand 100% by what I said: it is a Complete Scam. I found that after all I do much better without any noise: finall followed advise of few succeful traders, and turned everything off. So far only Pirates made any sense to me, but I do not trade ES: that was a great group of traders and decent people. Pandora with Mozart and Vivaldi I found to be the Best Trading Room For Me. Good luck
  9. Trading Rooms

    my fav out of 50+ rooms is espirates : very educational.: Support/Resisitance+ candles Sonny always answers all qeustions, but dont expect anyone to call trades...definetely not for newbies: but if u want to learn and grow: lovely place I hate ES...and do not trade it, but do apply pirates method to my boyfriend Russell: much more exciting, than old and tired ES.
  10. I'm An Idiot

    Just a suggestion: Since I am on PST time, and unfortunately most news releases around 5 am PST, I found it very helpful to print out economic calendar, where I highlight news times and which reminds me when next day's news are at the close of my work day. tradethenews is my fav..kept me out of trouble quite few times due to instant, not delayed news release.
  11. Market Profile Trading Room?

    I had never been to JP room, but was a member at Huddy's: it was defintely a Waste Of Time! Being a Nice Guy Does Not Make You A Good Trader, who after all rips every one off, and unless you are in complete denial, and hope for a miracle ( which I did, and therefore lasted a month), you need to wake up and realize It Is Just Another Scam, that goes around and around Unpunished! I left Forex, seeing endless scams, knwoing that due to nature of the Global Markets such can not be changed, hoping that Futures market being so heavily regulated, will be unlike FX. Latest scam, that apparently been around for a while is: eminischool...What I want to say about Greg will not be printed...One of the Most Shameful Rooms Ever. I suggest that we all search for sources of information and exchange ideas How To Stop These Scams. It is truly unbelievable, that this much damage is done in the open and so many get ripped off.
  12. Channel-Trading.com

    Hi GUys, since I do not ahve time to rehas: read this thread: I posted review of many rooms: http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/6/channel-trading-com-7929-3.html#post105282 I Had been in Rea's room for a long time: TOTAL SCAM: STAY OUT: will see nothign but total BS about OBAMA. He never follows his set ups and trades 1 contract??? Clearly dude makes a living by scamming others. EMinidjunkies: same...anyhoo: see that thread..I really had not found a good room: and I had been members to 50+: GOOD TRADER DOES NOT NEED HEADACHE AND PAIN OF THE TRADING ROOM. GOOD TRADER MAKES GREAT MONEY TRADING< NOT SCAMMING OTHERS>Although, some may be good teachers, but can not be traders. Let me know if you had found soemthign decent: which is consistent returns without BS>I had lost hope for such. Best of luck! Laguna
  13. Market Profile Trading Room?

    MM, thank you for your non-bias honesty regarding IOAMT: I have nothing to gain by vsharing my opnion, but only to help others to save their time and money. For advanced traders only: if you are interested in trading 15min candles with very strong lines, but have no entries, stops or targets, called you may want to check out Home Again: it is not for those who expect trades called. And yes, he does offer trial, and will answer any questions. I had enjoyed my experience as it is very straight forward Support/Resistance/Trend+ CandleSticks set ups, which is what works for me.
  14. Market Profile Trading Room?

    I am only making a point that Fin-Alg supplies all the same as MD but what u pay per life time, is what u pay for MD per month. Ninja+ Fin-Alg is Million Times Better than MD. I did tried L2st ( what the heck is that stands for: anyone knows?) anyone can post trades after the fact: I had been to his room for 3 months.Know 5 people: all left, and all lost money there. Key point: if room has less than 20 members: CAUTION: especially if room had been open FOREVER. Looked at ESPirates room : very quiet, but basic and educational, if you choose to learn and ask questions.
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