Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

Soultrader

K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid!

Recommended Posts

trader273

 

Please tell me what are those two MA's and how you use them. I am a newbie here and I couldn't use MA's effectively.

 

 

Now I don't want to take away all the fun of finding things out for yourself!! I'm just joking around. I could tell you exactly what i use, how I use them, and we would both get different results. The thing is to just experiment for yourself ( that is what I did). But the trick is to find something that appeals to you and stick with it. Don't continuously change the length of the ma's to fit the current day's trading action.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Being reletively new to trading and absolutely new to TradeStation, I have been on a hunt for the past 2 months for the best trade indicators that suit my planned style of trading. That being said, I now have a huge collection of TS indicators of all types and fashions with all types of bells and whistles.

 

The point that I would like to make is that after seeing with my own eyes, all these indicators in action, I have come to the conclusion that while some are pretty good, it appears to me that it is easy to confuse yourself with indecision by using too many at a time. You have this one saying "Buy", this one saying "Wait" and another saying "Sell".

 

And to top it all off, none of the indicators I have seen to date are more accurate than the good old MA's. To show what I mean I have attached an image from yesterday. On this picture I have PaintBars, 3 MA's, Auto Channel Lines, Auto Pivots, and a Swing HiLo indicator. To me, this is all you need (maybe a little too much for some) to get a clear picture of what the market is doing and what I need to do to make a good trade.

 

The plan is when red crosses white, make the trade. Blue is there to show the trend and keep you in or out in the bumpy times.

 

 

Robert : I personally like your chart... is there any chance you can share that "$NT swing hi & lo" indicator eld ? I would love to have it , it looks very clean... thanks cheers Walter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Sure...

 

You can get a whole slew of them at this site This is some free Tradestation software

 

Warning: Don't trust the "Cycle Identifier" indicator. The indications will change on you!

 

Thanks Robert ¡¡¡ they are quite a few ¡¡ question: in the case of this "swing hi lo" do they change on you or are they what you see... thanks Robert cheers Walter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm afraid it does change. It is only good to see the history, after the fact. The big dots don't appear until a few bars back. All it is good for is to help you see how the price has been moving. Maybe help you see a setup coming. I wouldn't use it for a trade signal.

 

So there is no confusion, I didn't create these. I only found them. In the video, the guy shows how he thinks they should be used and in what combinations to get signals.

 

I think these are Roy Kelly knock offs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Robert : Must admit it is a very nice indicators pack... not all indicators from this pack are that usefull, but I find pretty interesting the "OBV 2", the "trend Friend" and the "market trend 2" they are very nice indeed... I know this thread is about KISS.... I must admit on my experience and being an indicator trader. that if an indicator its correctly used and not considered 100% king it can help you KISS.... cheers Walter. and Robert thanks again for this collaboration...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think we could all benefit from KISS which i believe is rooted in a well established theroy "Occam's Razor".

 

Those unfamiliar with this concept it simply states that "when you have two competing theories which make exactly the same predictions, the one that is simpler is the better".

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are so many strategies in forex that anyone gets confused which to leave and which to apply. As a beginner, simple forex strategy would be appropriate. Simple trading systems are good for beginners, but will not suit traders that are more experienced.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
There are so many strategies in forex that anyone gets confused which to leave and which to apply. As a beginner, simple forex strategy would be appropriate. Simple trading systems are good for beginners, but will not suit traders that are more experienced.

 

Why would simple systems not suit more experienced traders? Most experienced traders I have talked with and know have very simple systems. I have found myself that the simpler I have made my method, the better it worked.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Even if there was that one indicator that was right 95% of the time, their are people that would still try to use other indicators to try to improve that. It has been said that 70% of trading is mental. Most systems will make you money if you follow the rules and use good money management. I for one use to spend more time looking for and trying new indicators and systems than actually using them. I bounced and bounced. Wasted much time. :crap:.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The day my trading turned around was when I took all indicators off my charts. Now I trade with a candlestick chart only. No moving averages, no indicators, and no volume. I read volume through the tape and I use a market profile chart as well as market internals to trade.

 

Price action is king. But it takes hours and hours of staring at price to fully understand price action.

 

There the key to the kingdom was just given to any aspiring career traders. The above advice is exactly what I do and have done to make my living since 1996. I only wish that I could get back the wasted time, money and years of my life trying to find out what really works. I wish someone had told me the truth and saved me all the heartache. The information quoted above is golden.

 

I will tell you this also, in all of my years in trading for a living, I have never met a single soul who makes a living trading forex or options. They may be out there somewhere, just like lottery winners, two headed cats, and albino squirrels.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest OILFXPRO
Keep It Simple Stupid.-- that is what it stands for. Not any particular system but a way of approaching the markets in general.

 

Most traders fail in real time processing of information and execution , hence the need for simple trading .

 

Is it really that simple?

 

Consider the trading rules that work: 1) follow the trend; 2) let your profits run; 3) cut your losses short; and 4) manage your money so you can stay in the game. If you design something around following those rules, you'll make a lot of money.

 

People also have a bias in that we tend to imagine that what we see or expect to see is typical of what can and will occur. Thus, if you observe a pattern in the market, you expect it to occur. If you develop some concept about the market, you will look for data to support that concept in the market-and you will probably find it whether it exists or not.

 

Add to those another bias called the conservatism bias. This means that once we find a pattern or causal relationship, we tend to ignore contradictory evidence no matter how pervasive it is. There are many more biases. Hopefully, you get the picture. We tend to create a reality that's much more complex than what really works-we try to add complexity rather than employ sound money management.

 

no links allowed

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Be careful who you blame.   I can tell you one thing for sure.   Effective traders don’t blame others when things start to go wrong.   You can hang onto your tendency to play the victim, or the martyr… but if you want to achieve in trading, you have to be prepared to take responsibility.   People assign reasons to outcomes, whether based on internal or external factors.   When traders face losses, it's common for them to blame bad luck, poor advice, or other external factors, rather than reflecting on their own personal attributes like arrogance, fear, or greed.   This is a challenging lesson to grasp in your trading journey, but one that holds immense value.   This is called attribution theory. Taking responsibility for your actions is the key to improving your trading skills. Pause and ask yourself - What role did I play in my financial decisions?   After all, you were the one who listened to that source, and decided to act on that trade based on the rumour. Attributing results solely to external circumstances is what is known as having an ‘external locus of control’.   It's a concept coined by psychologist Julian Rotter in 1954. A trader with an external locus of control might say, "I made a profit because the markets are currently favourable."   Instead, strive to develop an "internal locus of control" and take ownership of your actions.   Assume that all trading results are within your realm of responsibility and actively seek ways to improve your own behaviour.   This is the fastest route to enhancing your trading abilities. A trader with an internal locus of control might proudly state, "My equity curve is rising because I am a disciplined trader who faithfully follows my trading plan." Author: Louise Bedford Source: https://www.tradinggame.com.au/
    • SELF IMPROVEMENT.   The whole self-help industry began when Dale Carnegie published How to Win Friends and Influence People in 1936. Then came other classics like Think And Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, Awaken the Giant Within by Tony Robbins toward the end of the century.   Today, teaching people how to improve themselves is a business. A pure ruthless business where some people sell utter bullshit.   There are broke Instagrammers and YouTubers with literally no solid background teaching men how to be attractive to women, how to begin a start-up, how to become successful — most of these guys speaking nothing more than hollow motivational words and cliche stuff. They waste your time. Some of these people who present themselves as hugely successful also give talks and write books.   There are so many books on financial advice, self-improvement, love, etc and some people actually try to read them. They are a waste of time, mostly.   When you start reading a dozen books on finance you realize that they all say the same stuff.   You are not going to live forever in the learning phase. Don't procrastinate by reading bull-shit or the same good knowledge in 10 books. What we ought to do is choose wisely.   Yes. A good book can change your life, given you do what it asks you to do.   All the books I have named up to now are worthy of reading. Tim Ferriss, Simon Sinek, Robert Greene — these guys are worthy of reading. These guys teach what others don't. Their books are unique and actually, come from relevant and successful people.   When Richard Branson writes a book about entrepreneurship, go read it. Every line in that book is said by one of the greatest entrepreneurs of our time.   When a Chinese millionaire( he claims to be) Youtuber who releases a video titled “Why reading books keeps you broke” and a year later another one “My recommendation of books for grand success” you should be wise to tell him to jump from Victoria Falls.   These self-improvement gurus sell you delusions.   They say they have those little tricks that only they know that if you use, everything in your life will be perfect. Those little tricks. We are just “making of a to-do-list before sleeping” away from becoming the next Bill Gates.   There are no little tricks.   There is no success-mantra.   Self-improvement is a trap for 99% of the people. You can't do that unless you are very, very strong.   If you are looking for easy ways, you will only keep wasting your time forgetting that your time on this planet is limited, as alive humans that is.   Also, I feel that people who claim to read like a book a day or promote it are idiots. You retain nothing. When you do read a good book, you read slow, sometimes a whole paragraph, again and again, dwelling on it, trying to internalize its knowledge. You try to understand. You think. It takes time.   It's better to read a good book 10 times than 1000 stupid ones.   So be choosy. Read from the guys who actually know something, not some wannabe ‘influencers’.   Edit: Think And Grow Rich was written as a result of a project assigned to Napoleon Hill by Andrew Carnegie(the 2nd richest man in recent history). He was asked to study the most successful people on the planet and document which characteristics made them great. He did extensive work in studying hundreds of the most successful people of that time. The result was that little book.   Nowadays some people just study Instagram algorithms and think of themselves as a Dale Carnegie or Anthony Robbins. By Nupur Nishant, Quora Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/    
    • there is no avoiding loses to be honest, its just how the market is. you win some and hopefully more, but u do lose some. 
    • $CSCO Cisco Systems stock, nice top of range breakout, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?CSCOSEPN Septerna stock watch for a bottom breakout, good upside price gap
    • $CSCO Cisco Systems stock, nice top of range breakout, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?CSCOSEPN Septerna stock watch for a bottom breakout, good upside price gap
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.