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  1. “Library of Mistakes” https://www.sprottmoney.com/Blog/why-economists-with-big-libraries-like-russell-napier-like-bitcoin-and-gold-peter-diekmeyer-may-04-2020.html /// “Mistakes ... period.” https://www.aier.org/article/it-is-not-our-ignorance-that-will-kill-us-but-our-arrogance/ I’m requesting links to ANY trajectory model of C1984 that has been correct. I’m not just talking about the Gates WHO bought up influencers / bad scientists like Neil Ferguson - who’s , btw, never had a model that was right in his whole life. Found this (most will scream bias, but I’m thinking ... she who screams loudest...) https://www.globalresearch.ca/models-tests-consequences/5711194 I’m also requesting links to authorities’ assumptions that have been correct about C1984... and while you’re at it please post links to optimal authorities’ policies built on these models and assumptions- in terms of deaths, costs, and liberties. Here is a sample - NOT! https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/after-cuomo-clintons-and-newsom-call-army-contact-tracers-monitor-citizens-dc-posts-job /// The same questions could be asked about the ‘medical community’s’ (aka now as the ‘technocratic medical police state’) reactions to C1984. For why, see https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/02/pseudo-science-behind-the-assault-on-hydroxychloroquine/ /// ... back in the library of mistakes... https://mises.org/wire/america-technocracy-not-democracy
  2. I wish you could read faster https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/28/a-message-about-suicide-to-the-pod-people-wearing-masks/ I wish you could listen faster too... try 2X speed... and btw ...paraphrasing Bill Gates = “ you better listen bitches ... we can catch you outside and kill you with invisible stuff” goes to show how accurate prediction (and all the cred that comes with it) is easy when you know what is going to happen ... takes me back to the first post I did in here on C19... link ... JR’s dated old observations about how viruses are NOT good bioweapons but are excellent cover for actual bioweapons... supplemental reading https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-27-the-atlantic-pines-coronavirus-chinese-censorship.html that link was about this https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/what-covid-revealed-about-internet/610549/ ...which if nothing else is a perfect example of covid1984 double speak
  3. From one lab worker to another... https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/29/covid-two-vital-experiments-have-never-been-done/
  4. I remember posting in a TL Gold thread that the way gold was being discussed was in terms of fundamentals, narratives, valuations, and technicals of gold itself but that it had nothing to do with that... that instead if you were trading gold instruments you were actually trading dollars (and its other fiat fx correlates) without acknowledging or considering the fundamentals, narratives, valuations, and technicals of the dollar. ie Why bother analyzing gold when it's the dollar that needs to be analyzed? The same process is now reaching ‘commentable’ extremes (again) in stocks. ‘Commentable’ - because fundamentals, narratives, valuations, and technicals can be completely ignored (temporarily ) . Unless you are Charlie Munger , you are free to see stock indexes as a pure measure of the ‘dilution’ of the dollar. Ie gold, stocks (and gold stocks ) are currently much better ‘FX’ trades than are cross FX trades Meanwhile out in the populace ... https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/economics/third-major-transfer-from-the-middle-class-to-the-wealthy Meanwhile back at the ranch... https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr20/crazy-deadend4-20.html ... https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/04/23/covid-the-projection-of-a-mass-illusion/ I am 'ahppy' to have made it through this whole post without once mentioning the tsunami loss of your rights... could I be intuiting that you don't care?
  5. IMS (see above ‘in my statistics’ post) , no matter where or how it originated, C19 was in existence long and spread all over the planet well before the initial wuhan ‘outbreak’ .... cases going back into early Nov. in the US, etc etc ?? And again, IMS, yes C19 has spinoffs/mutations all over the world (reminder - send a note to bill gates) A buddy who finds these ‘just sayin’ posts amusing (‘sicko’ 😄 ) asked what I meant by “environmental and airborne toxins”. I told him for starters to google petroleum processing wuhan petroleum processing northern Italy petroleum processing Louisiana petroleum processing metro New York most ‘livers’ can struggle along with these loads... different story for those already sick and poisoned... high case rates in those areas not a coincidence ... I also told him that he must join all his peers in the lab and “ live in fear “... or all his tubes would be taken down like https://summit.news/2020/04/28/youtube-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-criticizing-stay-at-home-order/ ... and that he was safe and could trust the ‘authorities’ ... https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/this-is-power-grab-we-havent-seen-since-9-11-27707/ notwitstanding
  6. Let me get this straight now - through the ‘bailout’ laws the govt is forcing ‘citi sins’ to take out more credit and then the govt is sending that borrowed money to ‘citi sins’ / borrowers so they can service payments to lenders... that sounds like ‘’dead money” and ‘zoombobway’ all rolled up into one. Oh well, at least the SP500 is a safe haven... ... meanwhile back at the pandemic - unless we have a personal connection we rarely pay any mind to the multitudes of ‘mysterious’ deaths where the medical agents can only make a short list of possible causes and no autopsy is performed. Well those days are over, folks. Going forward there are no more mysterious deaths. The cause of all those deaths has been found - it was Covid all along. Just look at the statistics. ... Re the lockdowns - imo vast crowds are still giving consideration to the govts who cried wolf. Proper procedure would have been (and the way to right the course right now today - unless they have other agendas) = >'Lockdown' the vulnerable. The vulnerable are those with serious existing conditions, are on a cocktail of toxic prescriptions, and those exposed to significant loads or environmental and airborne toxins. >Protect the vulnerable. Ie provide ‘clean’, managed contact with those who serve the vulnerable. >Forget testing... current tests can’t tell the difference between viruses and cellular ‘products’. PCR,etc. was never designed to test for viruses - especially a single type of virus. >Open - and I mean OPEN - everything else. Fuck 'governors, czars, etc pretending to provide 'security' by bringing it on in stages (to preserve their control freak nanny state fantasies.) ... just sayin'
  7. My opinion on the plandemic From the intelligence and biologic evidence I’ve seen, this was an engineered corona. The prime panic was at high levels because when it got out / was deployed, they had almost no guidance on how many people it could kill and damage or how fast it could spread. Turns out it’s not a ‘plague’ worthy of a lockdown. It’s probably a prelude to future engineered plagues that will wipe out billions... but this one is just an ‘on the serious side’ corona that has no more effect on healthy ‘cells’ than any other corona. The lockdown is a concurrent dark operation with NO basis in facts. All its basis is in fears. The public is now desperate for sensible policymakers who have the courage to ignore the panic and rely on facts. ... and. finally, we see some signs that is happening with this good advice -“take some Clorox internally” From the beginning - and certainly now - the way to handle this plandemic = > Strictly protect the vulnerable, the aged, the health compromised. > like with other viruses, self-isolate the mildly sick, ... and > leave everything else WIDE open ( maybe “ with some prudent large-group precautions”. ) ims = In My ‘statistics’ ie ims is imo based on my 'statistics' ie ims is 'fun with statistics' ... just sayin' “early WHO reports noted that 80 percent of all cases were mild” “more recent studies show a far more widespread rate of infection and lower rate of serious illness.” ims, even with the lockdowns, the rates of exposure were/ are EXTREMELY high. ‘Infection” rates are / were also extremely high, However most infections are quickly handled by healthy immune systems with only minor or no symptoms expressed. Ie instead of 80 % cases mild, ims it’s more like 97% cases are mild... like every human gets 5 ~ 6 coronas a year and never even knows about most of them. "current antibody research now estimates the fatality rate is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent"... using ims from the paragragh above, the fatality rate is nowhere near that high ... for dam sure nowhere near the 3,4,5,6 % numbers put out by agencies like the World Globalist Health Organization, the ‘gates’ vaccine industry, and parroted like “Russia Russia Russian “ by the captured MSM. Btw, the death counts on the tv screens are so skewed it’s unbelievable. For weeks and weeks, every death was counted as a covid death... don’t get me started on false narratives... * ims Herd Immunity as currently (mis)understood is bad science. Ims, herd immunity through exposure to corona viruses is not what happens. “Vital population immunity” does not come from herds with antibodies. “Vital population immunity” comes from populations with healthy cells. Ie on the dis - ease front the whole dam world has it upside down ... ie all but a tiny percentage of human are hypnotized about ‘pharma’ ims, many are being set up for death by the medical facilities sudden exclusions of everything else except C19 cases. On another hand it makes systemantic ‘sense’ to classify every intake as c19 because the govt reimbursements are 112% highly for C19 than standard cases... meanwhile, many who need immediate and ongoing care are no longer getting it and will soon ‘cost more’ then die. Ims, this is only a symbol of the much hUger scale of destruction the second order effects of the lockdown will bring... on th e current trajectory much more than hospital patients will soon ‘cost more’ then die. * if you want to keep going - a quote from part one of the link I posted yesterday or ? from https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/20/coronavirus-lockdown-and-what-you-are-not-being-told-part-2/ ... ie in his statistics. Gotta go...
  8. On so many levels “Separation is bondage.” ... meanwhile all the peeps are voluntarily and docilely ‘separating’ Do you question the lockdown? Probably not. But if you do - here’s a quick tutorial on how https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/17/coronavirus-lockdown-and-what-you-are-not-being-told-part-1/ and I'm not swallowing this one hook, line, and sinker -but - if you do question the lockdown - is worthy of 1.75 speed consideration https://youtu.be/F3zKaZlKaDY
  9. let’s circle back around to the corvidity a moment whatif - far more humans have been exposed to covid than they report... far more ‘recoveries’ and failures to ‘infect’ than they report whatif - ‘every’ death is now a ‘covid’ death ie the statistics are now just plain ole fake whatif - from the very beginning, vaccine science is bad science whatif the consensus models of viruses are just plain wrong whatif - you lap up what ‘fauci’ say back to $ https://tomluongo.me/2020/04/18/trump-seen-unseen-vandalism/ where I’m having fun is watching a $ whatif - “John Exter’s inverse pyramid shows how the world’s credit obligations are all supported on a diminishingly small apex of gold.” where I’m having fun is connecting and reconnecting with my old network of traders instead of posting in forums. Many of them are more sucked into the narratives than they used to be... a huge mistake in my view. Many of them are dazed and confused - but nowhere near as traumatized and frozen as the boys and girls in this laboratory... just saying. later
  10. Lockdown LIES = something like a Milgram / Asch /Fow Chi: 'experiment' on the masses Subject: Why must I press the shock button? Fow Chi: We must flatten the curve and raise the line. Zap followed by whimpers. Subject: The patient sounds like this is hurting him. Asch: Some must suffer today so that some old people can die of the flu, next year. Next higher voltage switch, zap, followed by a scream for mercy. Subject: I don’t know how much more the patient can take. Fow Chi: What part of flatten the curve and raise the line don’t you understand? Subject: I don’t understand how torturing this system helps anything. Chi : How dare you! I am Doctor Fow Chi, M.D., D.O., S.T.A.T.I.S.T., Ph.D. I, and I alone know what is best. Voltage up, zap, blood curdling scream. Subject: I still don’t understand. Milgram : And oh by the way you are not zapping just one guy but almost every business owner in America. Subject: I won’t! Asch: You will, because I am wearing a white lab coat! Subject: Do you understand economics? Economic policy? Economic history even? Chi: Of course not! All irrelevant to flattening the curve and raising the line. Subject: I don’t know … Asch: Here is a bunch of money and laws that say you do not have to pay your bills. Voltage up. Zap. A low moan, then silence. .... ie https://mises.org/wire/exactly-how-many-deaths-are-needed-justify-giving-governments-control-everything .... more "At best - Policy made in panics is generally AWFULLY bad policy. At worst - policy unveiled in panics has dark motives. At best or at worst - panic policy hurts the many and helps the few. " https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-trickle-up-bailout .... Stick around ... for ... as the world turns... for... as your fiat literally disintegrates... vaporizes... https://goldswitzerland.com/the-greatest-financial-crisis-hyperinflation/ ya'll have fun now
  11. to all 2 of you https://www.goldmoney.com/research/goldmoney-insights/the-destructive-force-of-bank-credit ps: newsflash you heard it here first - covid19 has already mutated... the copies they are using to engineer 'vaccines' are useless... reminds me of 1976 (profitable to a few) swine flu vaccine fraud...
  12. to all 3 of you... god bless https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/they-dont-want-you-to-know-the-truth-or-be-exposed-to-differing-opinions_04142020 As a trader, I have to consider alternatives. Keeping “anything can happen” near the front of my mind is part of the game ... that this perfect setup and trigger may not work this time... or the next n times, etc etc. It’s now automatic... and when it droops, that’s a sure sign I’m the source of increasing risks. In the MSM news narratives I also have to consider alternatives too. It’s now almost automatic. So some just sayin alt thoughts... Alt: corvidity. At best - Policy made in panics is generally AWFULLY bad policy. At worst - policy unveiled in panics has dark motives. At best or at worst - panic policy hurts the many and helps the few. Instead of https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/14/50-headlines-welcome-to-the-new-normal/ , JR says it better - so... https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/14/covid-the-chinese-regime-sun-tzu-and-the-art-of-war/ https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/14/passport-to-the-brave-new-world-the-vaccine/ Alt: Bailing everything and everyone out is in effect backstopping nothing and no one. Backstopping/Bailing everything and everyone out can never be complete... some are bailed out better than others. Alt thought - It might have been better to just stop... simply “No one should be bailed out!” period. "...nobody should be bailed out. No company should be bailed out. No individuals should be bailed out. Everybody needs to deal with the consequences of their own actions." Let’s see what the current social fabric of this world is really made of.... and btw alt: we are NOT ‘all in this together’. Let’s see what happens when a large percentage of businesses fail, re-org or be taken over and re-orgd. https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/04/12/the-road-to-perdition-is-paved-with-evil-intentions/ https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/04/13/the-road-to-perdition-is-paved-with-evil-intentions-a-final-reckoning/ Alt: Are the FAANGs really the best buy trade on the whole planet right now? Really? They have as much or more operational and revenue fragility than most of the companies they are outperforming ... hm. And they actually have very little self control ... rapidly decreasing adaptability... (if it hasn’t been taken down .... run at 1.75 speed...)
  13. re: stocks. Imo,we have a long ways to go down before we get to ‘value’ . “Even at the March 23rd low...the Wilshire 5000-to-GDP ratio was at 101.38 percent, the 73rd percentile” No place to be shopping for 'value' Yet, with all the fake money flooding in, the stock mkt could still soar. But - up is not really up. The long ‘bull of the last dacade + was actually ‘bull’sht. Bullsht = steady injections of more fiat, taking on cash flow dependent corporate debt to finance ‘supply reducing’ buybacks, malinvestments galore, capital DESTRUCTION - all clouded by a steady stream of FALSE msm narratives and fake numbers - from top numbers (ie GDP, etc.) all the way down to individual corp reports and reporting. ... ie Any ‘bull’ action now is in the category of obese elephant bull sht... And as I have been posting for years, we can’t use dollars as a measure anymore. ie Up is not really up https://mises.org/wire/what-if-fed-did-nothing and using dollars as a measure is getting worse and worse. ‘money’ not ‘working’ anymore. .. https://alhambrapartners.com/2020/03/31/what-is-the-feds-new-fima-the-potential-for-a-shadow-shadow-run-is-very-real/ https://alhambrapartners.com/2020/03/30/no-dollars-and-no-sense-eighty-argentinas/ ... ” Another day, another trillion dollars.” re: “all clouded by a steady stream of FALSE narratives. “ Yes, sweetheart the same thing has been happening in the covidity lockdown ... a steady stream of FALSE narratives https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/peoples-skepticism-about-covid-19-is-the-fault-of-the-lying-mass-media-91216ad7fcf3 ... I just chuckle now anytime I hear any US press comment on/ criticise Russia or Chinese ‘disinformation’ . Imo, China’s ‘Police State’ is currently only a tiny click or two worse than our ‘Pharm State’. Re: trading. It’s been a wild wonderful wide range last six + weeks to trade. I have been preparing for it a long time and still didn’t capture as much as possible... for one thing, didn't increase/balance sizing for those outlier bounces as robustly as I should have, etc ... but still it’s been amazing. First signs starting to show up that ‘volatility’ is slowing down ... will deal with that by up sizing all positions appropriately. I’m no longer ‘trading’ fx. I’m now speculating in fx. ... gradually scaling into a pretty good sized dollar short... do you make a distinction btwn ‘trading’ and ‘speculating’? btw atlas shrugged about a “secret coin”.... I’m just sayin’ later... maybe
  14. Posting is expensive so I’ll keep this short A narrative of LIES took the markets up. Now, a narrative of LIES is taking it down ... bluntly, there’s the ‘dominant concern’ narrative - which is usually fake - and then there’s the real reasons for major moves. ... and btw my dear Bill Gates this NOT the “once in a century pathogen.” ... It’s actually just a gd really bad cold. I’m just sayin’ ... https://straightlinelogic.com/2020/03/06/irrelevant-details-by-robert-gore/ ... meanwhile back at the panderamic ranch https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/11/coronavirus-why-its-not-like-the-other-fake-epidemics/ ps the accuracy of viral tests is even worse than this portrays ... just ask an objective pathologist. https://www.theorganicprepper.com/trust-covid-19-test-elisa-and-rna-tests/
  15. re: " I hope you’re long and that you know exactly when to get short..." Most posters tend to use about 90% more words than they need . It's called hedging -just in case someone actually understands what they are saying and they end up being wrong. anyways ... Re: “Fuck off” Most posters tend to use about 90% more words than they need . Not mitsubishi meanwhile... it vent viral https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/02/damn-will-the-zombie-virus-apocalypse-never-come/ https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/02/coronavirus-the-contagion-of-propaganda/
  16. Speaking of “covers’ ... He’s just saying too... https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/30/the-china-epidemic-staging-the-production/ ... https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/05/my-bottom-lines-on-the-china-epidemic/ Hey guys, Re: the indexes , I’ll tell you what I been telling all my friends - I hope you’re long and that you know exactly when to get short... Hope you’re all doing well. I’m gone again - for god knows how long ... zdo
  17. A cover. You’ve been hearing it for years now the Russians interfered in ‘our’ elections, and you’re still hearing it... how they’ll be changing their techniques in 2020, etc , etc. It’s all bullshit. Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia propaganda is actually a cover for outright organized election cheating EVERYWHERE . nationwide in 2020. “Irregulatities” will be plentiful, boxes of ‘missing’ votes will suddenly appear, vote counting ‘apps’ errors will be blamed -meanwhile the vote counting apps have built in backdoor cheats to give the election to anyone ‘they’ want, ... and as usual, illegal people can vote ... dead people too. ... and none of it will be accurately reported by MSM. So Re: digital voting -Think again when you hear MSM say ” It’s just minor issues with bringing untested, non-transparent technology into the democratic process...” This technology is fully tested to give tptb any dam election they want. ... and no I’m not talking about the DNC Shadow app (even though it’s a perfect example) . I’m talking about official voting ‘machines’ manual and digital ...coming to a Nov 2nd near you... Russia didn’t change one fkn vote. Nobody colluded with Russia (any more than usual). Here’s what really going on... Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant Rampant election fraud ... just sayin’
  18. hey folks, even though i made some bonehead trades this year, 2018 turned out to be a pretty good year... thankfully the bad discretionary positions were properly sized. eg fx was plain and simple not fun this year... too much like work ... fwiw closed out several 'campaign' / scale trades this year... the long crude trade was one I had discussed the most herein. moved a small portion of profits to permean... but I'm thinking i'm way late to that party and will have to hold through several cycles for this to really pay off... actually wishing they would shut my wells down for now instead of pumping for cash flow... etc. got out of shorts on fangs... a little too early btw (an :almost chagrin: smiley thang) .. and will be looking to get back in on a fakebook bounce.. maybe... etc etc and btw Still in the treasury short trade but am not adding size as aggressively as early in the campaign. also still accumulating physical silver and actively hedging the position with PM futures re: 2019... your edge(s) ready? your 'you's' ready? only 2 or 3 give a rats ass (as it should be) but my TL time here will be even more limited going forward. going bird south for the 'winter' ... then back for a software project pm if you want an email to stay in touch also, the 'voice of trading' on this forum has degraded so far it is no longer necessary to point out its pitfalls... wishful thinking but here's hoping some real quality will step in here. wishing ya'll all the best in the new year. zdo
  19. Tasuki, Syswizard’s assessment/comparison is good . I’ve always had Tradestation from first version... hard ware lock number in the double digits. And I’ve had MC since just after it first came out. I still run MC to IB on a dedicated machine but don’t trade with it much. I don’t think you would be making a significant improvement with a move from TS to MC. Both platforms simply share too many limitations... and there are many! re; "Thinkorswim, Ninjatrader, Metastock," etc. They are all adequate. The important thing is does a platform fit your 'taste' and needs... like if you test drove 7 different SUV's, you could immediately build a preferential order from your initial experience of them and, for the most part, that original order would likely stand the test of time If looking for ‘retail’ replacement for TS also look at MetaTrader jmo... hth zdo
  20. goddess div, “in today's market” ??? Actually, trading has NEVER had a high barrier to entry. Financially, any moron always could raise some bucks and ‘manage money’ ... no school needed, no license, no nothin’ but a posimistic 'script' . All significant / "high" barriers are discovered to be found within ... bound flow, identity, state patterns, reactivity, etc... Most realize these inner barriers beforehand and don’t ever even ‘start’ trading. Some realize it shortly after starting and either do any inner work needed or get out the game. Some never grasp it and continue searching for objective edges ... never acknowledging that they couldn’t successfully implement an edge even if they had one. So re “Now, anyone with ambition and patience can trade, and do it for a living, even with little to no money.” - I call bullshit. That sentence should simply read “Anyone can try to trade.” Successfully trading “for a living... with [the] little to no money [condition]” is the equivalent of hitting all six numbers of a PowerBall. Possible - yes. Probable - NOT. Seems to me you’re blowing smoke up our asses in hopes some of it will go up your own ass...
  21. I see your point. Certainly they are not almost seamless anymore...even though base EL is still around for both, more and more EL code has elements not accommodated in MC, etc. --- However, TS ‘oo’ greatly increases the capacity for very granular programming and, albeit to a lesser degree, real time intrabar system automation. If anything MC needs to move forward rather than both being stuck back in base ‘easy’ Language.
  22. zdo

    sick orwell?

    "If the public is just going to accept Big Tech’s monopoly going forward, then everyone must prepare themselves to live as peasants, living under their thumb, on their terms. Sure, you might have the ease of purchases through Amazon, but your local retail and community entrepreneurship is suffering. Sure, you might have the comfort of an expensive iPhone, but it’s slowly exploiting your privacy, tracking your every move, and turning you into zombie,. Sure, you might be able to get easy information directly from Google and Facebook, but now they have the power to control the information you get, censor information they don’t want you to hear, and promote the brands they can benefit from. " See CensoredNews.com
  23. zdo

    sick orwell?

    all your algorithm are belong to us https://hackernoon.com/sundar-pichai-and-the-ethics-of-algorithms-7948226aa7f6
  24. another interruption in this busy thread... If you started in the 1990’s prophesizing over and over again about a massive build up, and then crack up collapse, of fake ‘systemics’ ... and if the ruin part didn’t happen yet. would you be ‘wrong’ ? Here’s an example https://usawatchdog.com/trend-is-clear-rapid-decline-of-world-economy-egon-von-greyerz/ Is he wrong? ... And what if you started prophesizing that this time gold may not ‘save you’ like it has in past ‘global’ implosions? Would you be wrong?
  25. zdo

    sick orwell?

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