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Old 04-07-2009, 09:04 AM   #17

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Re: New Moderation Rules!! - PLEASE READ

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there is a block user function on this forum
I didn't know that. It should be more prominent, maybe an additional button below each post or below the avatar.
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I guess this all stems from how much moderation and limiting discussions you want to have James. If you want an open forum, then this does the exact opposite. If you want a forum where everyone is treated as a child and all potential 'bad' posts are removed, then this will work beautifully.
If one wants an "open forum", ET is only a mouse-click away. On the other hand, if one wants a forum in which members are expected to treat each other with at least a minimum of respect, this one, with a couple of exceptions, works just fine.
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I didn't know that. It should be more prominent, maybe an additional button below each post or below the avatar.
Unfortunately, while "ignore" seems like a good idea, it doesn't work in practice due to the responses that the ignored post and/or user receives which in turn generally quote the ignored post. And this can go on for thirty or forty posts or more before someone finally steps in and is faced with cleaning up a big mess that could all have been avoided by deleting the initial post or, even better, by the initial poster exercising some restraint.
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Re: New Moderation Rules!! - PLEASE READ

I wonder if trying to moderate the posts is going to end up throwing the baby out with the bath water. Who's been upset by the posts? Is there a lack of participation recently that I am not aware of?

I find this forum much more sensible and "friendly" than most. I personally wouldn't change it.
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I think it would be quite helpful to define the problem. I see many interesting and thoughtful solutions and debate about those proposals, but I have no idea what the issue is To me, it is hard to settle on a solution without really understanding where the system is breaking down or where we see it falling short. Can we clarify what the issue is first? Good, workable solutions are then likely to follow.

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Re: New Moderation Rules!! - PLEASE READ

Just another thought to digest;

Clear rules for Mods that are also transparent to the masses
If a mod edits a post clearly list the rule breach as to why
clear rules for the masses on behaviour and nature of posts
Train the Mods to follow the rules
Clear rules for Banning or sinbinning the masses
Feedbackloop for Mods on performance


and be as transparent, consistent and open as possible in all of these processes.

Well done James I like the discussion.

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Re: New Moderation Rules!! - PLEASE READ

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If one wants an "open forum", ET is only a mouse-click away. On the other hand, if one wants a forum in which members are expected to treat each other with at least a minimum of respect, this one, with a couple of exceptions, works just fine.
In addition, people can express their opinions of others as well - whether that be vendors, spammers or other riff raff that sometimes makes it's way here. Seems that some people come to TL only once being banned from other forums, but there is an inherent reason why that person was banned other places as well.

Regardless, the idea can work or it can backfire. If it turns into a popularity contest, then it will get messy and I think that's the last thing James wants here.
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In addition, people can express their opinions of others as well - whether that be vendors, spammers or other riff raff that sometimes makes it's way here. Seems that some people come to TL only once being banned from other forums, but there is an inherent reason why that person was banned other places as well.

Regardless, the idea can work or it can backfire. If it turns into a popularity contest, then it will get messy and I think that's the last thing James wants here.
Some people understand the difference between expressing an opinion and attacking someone. Some people don't. Which is the point of moderation.

But since moderators cannot edit or delete posts outside their own forums, the person to whom these concerns should be addressed is James. Only he can explain why he deleted any given post or thread.
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