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![]() | Anyone Trading Silver? BUT, there is a solution. You can successfully prosper from the nice price action in the silver market by using silver ETFs. AND, you can get good leverage by trading options in those markets. That's what I've been doing lately and I'm loving the results. But instead of daytrading, I'm using a 195 minute chart to put on short term swing trades. Below are a few screen shots of three different ways to trade silver. The first screenshot is a recap of today's 233 tick chart. It was very profitable as it usually is BUT, each trade required a considerable amount of risk, at $50 per 1 cent move in the contract. To trade this strategy safely and with responsible risk allotment, you probably need a $50,000 account. Otherwise, you'll find yourself trading with scared money when you get a few losses and scared money is DEAD money. Lost money! The 2nd chart, SLV (iShares Silver Trust), is a trade that I am currently in. It is a swing trade strategy that I like to trade with 4 positions. But rather than trade the shares outright, I am trading options with the nearest 'in the money' option to the entry price of the trade, as it is shown on the SLV 195 minute chart. I have already exited two positions and am letting the remaining positions play out until the trade ends. This strategy has won over 72% of its trades over the past two years. And, with options, you have great control over your risk and position size. The 3rd chart is another Silver ETF, AGQ (ProShares Ultra Silver). This one also has won a very handsome 72.6% over the same two year period. Makes sense, right? This one trades at a completely different cadence however. I wanted to show this chart because there is a new trade that has set up and may trigger in soon. I would make a small adjustment to get above the swing level however. This one is a much higher stock price but with options, using the same strategy as I'm using with SLV, this is a very profitable strategy. Because there is so much time left with March options, the percentage returns are not as great as they would be later in the month. You could get better returns with Feb options but you might have to roll them over to March if the trade doesn't conclude in time. This setup could cancel but for now, the setup is valid and will be confirmed if the trade triggers in prior to cancelling. We'll see. Regardless, silver is a market worth trading. It is steady and profitable. Check it out. | ||
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![]() | Re: Anyone Trading Silver? Got Bob? In yesterday's post, I showed you a GetB.o.B. trade that was forming on the iShares Silver Trust ETF, SLV. Did you get it? Today, we exited fixed positions at both the 2nd and 3rd targets and are now trailing the remainder of our position with guaranteed profits locked in. I personally Got B.o.B. (got back on board) using May 42 call options. The entry was at 42.67 so I bought slightly in the money calls. The price for each call option was 2.24 each. I exited my first position when SLV hit its middle target at 43.56. That's an .89 gain on the straight ETF (stock), which is a 2% gain. Not bad for a quick trade but if you bought 100 shares per position, you'd have to commit a bunch of your trade capital. Still though, if you could make 2% on every trade, you could conceivably trade yourself to riches. Check out the options result though. I exited my first position when the ETF hit its middle target. My options were now worth 2.75, which is a .51 gain. It's a smaller gain from a point total point of view but consider this. Each option only cost $224. When I exited with a $275 proceed, $51 profit per option, my percentage return on my invested capital was 23%! That's over 200% better and a 200% better use of my capital from a pure ROI (return on investment) basis. The story gets better though. I exited the 2nd third of my position at the 3rd target of 43.93. The option sold at 2.90 (I actually exited a few pennies below the full target when it stalled at 43.90. I'm a firm believer of 'trading for profit' and not fighting over a few ticks). The 2nd position gained 29%. I tightend my stop on the 3rd, trailing part of the trade to give this a chance to hit a homerun. I have profit locked in no matter what, and in spirit of the SST, I have a pure risk free trade that is live and still going. See SLV Chart with GetBob Trade Example; (You can see the setup from yesterday. Here is the current chart from today.) | ||
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![]() | Re: Anyone Trading Silver? Total return since August 27, 2010 Global Asset 140.4% Silver 75.1% Corn 39.0% Crude Oil 38.2% Russell 2000 Index (Broad Stock Market) 36.3% CRB Commodities Index 35.8% Coal 35.1% Soybeans 31.8% Nasdaq 30.1% Copper 27.2% S&P 500 (Large-Cap Stocks) 25.2% Dow Jones Average (Large-Cap Stocks) 21.1% Gold 18.3% Financial Sector SPDR Fund (Big Banks) 5.6% Producer Price Index 2.3% Consumer Price Index -2.2% Investment Grade Corporate Bond Fund -2.6% 10-Year U.S. Treasury Bond Total Return -10.6% U.S. Dollar Index In hindsight, in such a strong uptrend, do you think its better to simply buy & hold instead of actively trading it? MMS
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![]() Here is a screenshot I had to make since I won't ever see this again off 2 contracts | ||
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