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FilterTip
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jbarnby re your post# 3708: As previously posted, would this be correct ? Many thx
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How, using this chart snippet would you, as you say, check your fractal jumping propensity ? Spyder replied, at the time to Ezzy: with: Thx
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I have the benefit of todays price action. However, when reading your post before today opened my thoughts were this: 1. Yes there is more to come. 2. Assuming your green trend lines are a Tape, then we require a further 2r2b (thin) due to the Tape Ve'ing at 15.55 ? But that's from price rather than volume ? Thx for helping out here on TL.. Kind regards PS: did you mean to have a B2B on top of a B2B of the same gaussian thickness at the start of your posted chart from 15.30 ?
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Monkman. Just thinking out load here: 13:00 is an OB. 13.05 creates a Sym pennant. 13.10, creating a lateral, and still within the Sym, with 13.15 translating all 3 as up. Not withstanding volume, this would seem to push, initially, the P2 of whatever container is being built (from your 12.35 bar) up to 13.30. Again just thinking out load. Others may know better or be able to offer a more accurate understanding. Appreciate your posts btw.
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Hello Monkman Applying it as an "indicator", "NoGapChart" try Corey's post # 3409. Kind Regards FilterTip
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Hi xioxxio First off my pc is set to EST so the times on the DAX chart I posted are not correct re Eurex times..not with standing that, I didn't annotate any carry over on that chart..I just wanted to step right in so to speak and see what was what and how/if I could see things. As for starting the DAX chart I think there is enough going on in the one hour pre cash open, but I think it better, as your snippet shows, to synch the start and end time to the cash, as volume would be at a minimum sufficient level. Gucci is the Daxer par excellence so perhaps/hopefully if he's still around reading here he might be able to offer more in sites.. hope that helps
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Daxing................
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This morning was confusing in terms of what I thought I had. I'm still not clear but in the meantime I am mindful of yesterdays many laterals and wonder if my largest container had actually had it's P3 yesterday or whether that was this morning. Yesterday had me finishing that and starting a Magenta largest container. i do have a container down this morning but saw it on a different level initially and was expecting more down movement to fullfill a P1 to P2 moe of magenta. That didn't happen. So in view of yesterdays laterals I have changed the level of lines on price and gaussians to reflect this mornings move down as a move to a P3 up of my largest blue container. i may also have incorrectly dealt with the Largest blue containers VE yesterday and this mornings down move may just be to a new P3 because of that VE. Questions questions.. Also my nogap on the 15 minute is again not working even aftr re-laod it..hmmm
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amisme There are most of the indicators needed in this thread; Forums - Software Used to Trade Jack Hershey Methods That particular post by Breakeven (dated 12-.01-08) has the indicator pp_barformations to colour bar formations and laterals. It's from 2008, It's waht you see on the charts I've posted. But I'm unable to export it for some reason and there for unable to post it here. But the above should be all ok if it is of interest.
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amisme Re: the NT script for volume. This has already and kindly been writen for NT Attached is a PRVolume and PR_Arrows indicators. Incase you're not familiar with the process: Save that in your Indicator folder; My Docs/NinjaTrader 7/bin/indicators. Then to Import: NB you must do this whole process for each of the zips. So do it once for one and then start again and do it for the other. Via NT Control Centre: File/Utilities/Import Ninjascript. A window will open from which you need to select the zip file by name. NB: you must select only one zip. Doouble click on the zip file. Wait for NT to process and a confirmation box should pop up to say successful import. repeat the above proocess for each zip. The indicator will now appear in your indicator list when you right click on a chart. PRVolume colours the vol according to bar highs and lows. It has an option for arrows but they are on price. The PV_Arrows indicator places arrows on volume if you prefer. Hope that helps. PRVolume.zip PV_Arrows.zip
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Hi amisme. I considered the 11:20 (EST) lateral ended on the 13:05 IBGS on inc vol that pierced the lateral boundary. There were a few other that "came close" by one tick. but that 13:05 synched in with the end of the leg, Just to add, i'm not clear about the bar/volume colour scheme you're using ? Cheers
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Yes, you've got it right that a "thing" is down, where it is down from, at end of Friday and where it ends, 4 bars into today. It seems to be more about what that "thing" is, a tape or a traverse. It's the expectaion of what makes a traverse, ie at least 3 x tapes. This is an issue that's been raised before and I use the word issue for a reason. It's because, for us, without that difinative construct of what makes a traverse, we're left without ever knowing what we have. ie: If "by definition" we need at least 3 tapes to make a traverse, well when I've got a down tape (to traverse P2) and an up tape (to T P3) I'm expecting a last down tape. And when it doesn't come and rather price goes up, I'm thinking WTF. Somehow, what I thought was a down tape, must have been a traverse. Hence, an "issue". So without, and I repeat without, wanting, wishing, intending or having any inclination to re-invoke that "issue" I can only say that it's at about this point that we start thinking a bit differently in terms of putting things into neat boxes with labels on them. Yes I know.....helpful info FilterTip but a little vague no ?. What I'm trying to put across here is that "at some point" we know what we thought was wrong. So long as we define that point, and it is a price point so it is definable. ie: in a down "thing" that price point of knowing we are wrong is the P1 price of that down "thing" (if that blows whilst thinking we still have a down thing, then we know we are wrong. Again, helpful , but...it leaves a but doesn't it ? That "but" is something like, "but I want to know where I am and why ALWAYS". Sure so do I, "but", there are times when we either don't or re slightly wrong. Apparantly that's to do with pace. So that tape was a traverse because of Pace. Pace, for me has never ever been defined. Perhaps it's not a quantifiable thing. Perhaps it's more about "feel" or experience. My point is this, and I'm not preaching, this is just the oppinion of a lowly Hershite. Perhaps jsut think of each thing as a "container". They are not always built according to a defined criteria tht we can always see or quantify. For as long as we can we do pretty well. For those times that we can't or don't we have our "wrong point" P1. So amisme, you got a container start, direction and end correct. Not too shabby me thinks.. From that you could fairly quickly determine what you NOW have, and moved forward pretty well with that... I'm sure you know all of this anyway. I'm not sure how this sounds or comes across. I mean with the best of intention. I just wanted to help anyone stay both focused on what is good with what they are doing that works, and to not undo that, because of what seems to not work. It's very easy imo for that to happen. It gets confusing between what to know is right and what is not. Perhaps the above, which is more about a mind set that utilizes this method, rather than the method messing with our mind, can help. Hope so and wishing everyone well...
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Thank you Corey for that info. I appear to have had a NoGapPrevious day loaded fro some reason. Have put on the NoGap (more than previous day) Got my orientaion on that large blue container, which has VE'd, oh my now what... Have put on a new RTL to account for that VE, so things have ended up at the same place in the end, being short that is. thx again..
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That turned out well. Did exactly what it said on the tin.. Update 2 I see that blue largest container ending. Added the 15min. But the NoGap chart's gone wierd on me, so not sure about the angle of the largest blue container. Presently short.
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This is my view. 5 min and 15 min attached. Got a bit messed up first thing (platform issues don't you know) Presently long. I'll see how things pan out at end of day. (not a "blow by blow" today you'll all be pleased to hear )
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This ridiculous time limit on editing posts; my math was wrong; Total = + 3.25 (not + 1.75) apologies.
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Vienna. Thx, that is very helpful. I admit I've not ventured down the finer tool set for a long time. I will need and want to, as even intra bar analysis on a coarse 5 min chart is required. Many thx. Btw, with the pigs ear I made of that sell @1362.25 no problem with the farm stuff.. I've been hungry all day and more so now. Whether you know it or not a Vienna is a kosher sausage that you boil, not grill. With rhye bread and mustard it's pretty good. Cheers.
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Today's Review; 6 Trades: Trade 1: B 2 @ 1364.50 S 1 @ 1365.75 +1.25 S 1 @ 1366.00 +1.50 + 2.75 Trade 2: S @ 1364.75 B @ 1365.50 - 0.50 (was up 1.75) Trade 3: B @ 1365.50 S @ 1365.50 0 (was up +2.00) Trade 4: S @ 1365.00 B @ 1362.25 + 2.75 Trade 5; S @ 1362.25 S @ 1363.00 B 2 @ 1363.50 - 1.75 (was up 0.75) Trade 6: B @ 1365.50 S @ 1365.50 0 (was up 0.50) Total: + 1.75 Was up +10.00 So I'm thinking I was the right side of the market for 10 points in a day with a 6 point range. Also thinking what's the point of entering if i don't know when to exit. I admit Trade 5 the sell at 1362.25 was wrong, although I recall seeing incresing red vol when I went in, but the bar turned and closed up pronto. I'm pleased with the rest, entry wise. Although being late to exit leads to being late to enter the other way. I didn't like the way things topped out on that doji, not that what I think has any baring. It does however highlight two things; 1) this method is based on difinitive principles but often involves a degree of ambiguity. That may seem a contradiction hence number two: 2) this method is, imo, a sort of reverse to normal thinking. ie: here we take action and then see if it is confirmed, where as a "normal" approach, for the sake of a better word, is the opposite. 3) When what we require for that confirmation does not arrive, that in itself becomes a confirmation, so there is a sort of overlap loop that we , again in my oppinion, need to always cary in our mind. Doing todays posts reminded me of how hard it is to post and a certain sense of the forum as a whole. I hope it's been at the least enjoyable and at the most, helpfull. Someone, and we all know who, gave an inordinate amount of their time and effort to a lot of those that I see post from time to time and/or log in for a read. I'm no authority by any means, and don't mean to imply I am, but what ever I know, baring the inordinate help shared with one particular member (who if reading these last posts is probably scratching their head thinking WTF. High there btw) most is out of the effort given by yours truely. So this is sort of a respect to him and hope he is well. Hmmm..I need to eat something.. Cheers
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Update 11 My entry @1362.25 was not good. I added a short @ 1363.00. so as to return to red dom.. what do Ve have here ? I suppose it is it but I'm still left with the same two questions from yesterday.. 1) how do we know if it will go araound again or not.. 2) where's the ftt at 14;40 ? Presently short Update 12. didn't see the move whilst typing. covered shorts late and reversed long @ 1363.50 Presently long
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Explaining the Orange Thingy. see chart notes. But to add. it amounts to the same thing as this non dom leg on the 15 min chart...sorry for the intrusion... normal programming will resume shortly.. Presently still short from 1365.00 Update 10 covered shorts @ 1362.25 Presently flat and somewhat hungry.. Update 11 Short @ 1362.25 So back to those VE's thingy that I asked about before... Shouldn't we get another move down..a return to red dominance ?
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Update 8. timed out updating last post..has it relly been that long. Covered my long @ 1365.50 B/E. That was a shame being up 1.5 points, So that 13:15 doji was it..? Presently flat. Update 9. I'm tentively short (if such a thing exists) @ 1365.00. i've superimposed an Orange (very fruity) "thing" with it's possible volume. so we could be in a non dom leg of that. As volume looks more about that in view of the action at the highs of the day. 15 min Update. We may be in that non -dom ( P2 to P3) thing that I was mindfull of from yesterday. ie: yesterday/today was still going to a P2 of larger up container. Just some thoughts
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Thought I'd drop a 15min in here. Update 7. Been a grind and a drag dragging the thiner black rtl, but it us what it is...until it isn't I suppose. The lateral from 12:00 looks to me to be a non dom lateral. still holding long but not much umph here at the highs of the day. Waiting for inc black vol to kick in.
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Update 5 covered shorts for 2 tick loss @ 1365.25. I liked the 10:55 bar..I really liked it. But then, well we can see the move up. OK, lets go with that. Perhaps that down move from 1366 was a non dom leg in something bigger. I've fanned the largest Black RTL and adjusted my Guassians. presently long @1365.50. (hope my ramblings aren't a bore or intrusion) Update 6 Price has stopped at my entry and reversing on me. Nice eh..! So I'm thinking, that down red thing I was short through may be correct and we've only moved up to it's P3. Maybe that red thing is done as this move up to a possible P3 down is within 3 ticks of the high of the day. Maybe I'm sitting on a beach some where... Only 2 of the above are a possibility at the moment. So I'm trying to work out where overall dominance is. But as confucious didn't say.. "squirrel that climbs ladies leg won't find nuts.." Still holding long, In for a pennie, in for $15 triliion as they say.
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This is my current view atm. Presently long. Where is the inc black vol to return to dom out of that 15:30 lateral ? Do we need it ? Just thinking out load here. Update. covered the longs at 1365.75 and 1366.00 on basis of SOC bar (HH and > close on dec vol). Presently Flat Update 2 Presently short @ 1364.75 Lets see if this retrace turns into a reversal. Things got a bit light at the top there at 1366 Update 3 Moves down on inc vol, but have an FBO of the Black RTL. My finger was hovering to close through that 10:30 bar.. Where was the in red vol..? But as we then got dec black vol I held short. Update 4. Got tricky through those last 3 bars... still holding short. Where's inc red vol..I'm gonna wanna have somma soona..
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Here is same 15 min chart (entitled Chart 2) There is another way to annotate the first container (Magenta P1 to Magenta P2). Which makes more sense of that Aqua non-dom to Magenta P3. Trouble I have is why did we go around again from 14.30 yesterday to this morning, other than an FBO of the Magenta RTL. Which is why I was seeing things long (on 5min) where I've put the white P1.