[walterw]

Today I posted this 3 trades here http://www.traderslaboratory.com/for...s-2364-22.html wich I consider timing not on the best optimized perfomance...

Now lets revisit this 3 "VMAR Icon" Trades with this possible timing optimization... you will notice trade 1 and 2 did have a great difference, maybe trade 3 there was not much difference... but on the overall performance of this timmings we had clean and leading entries...








If you observe when the blue line crosses his white signal line the black line its still way on the other side of the dark green...

in the second trade we had an HE on the blackline that did not give us any pull behind the darkgreen line wich as too the classic entry rules there would not be trade... thanks to the new possible optimization we would have a very good entry... lots to meditate on folks.. let me add video... cheers Walter.

[walterw]

And here is the video on this progress... cheers Walter.

[PYenner]

FantailVMA2 for evaluation.

Turbo version.
The input settings are-

ADX_Length = 2, accepts 2 to 8, 3 or greater gives late entry.
Weighting = 2.0, accepts 1 to 8, 2.3 or greater gives late entry.

The fastest settings give the shortest HE length and show market uncertainty, the HE can wiggle right about the time you want it to tell you up or down, instead it tells you "don't know yet".

May suit experienced traders better than beginners.

The horizontals are shorter than before.
I hope that does not greatly affect the degree to which the fantail compresses.

The yellow VMA line hugs the Close price more closely now when laddering.

Walter, there may be some work to do redefining timing??
Check it out, see what you think.

Picture of VMA1 versus VMA2 default settings weighting=2.0 versus VMA2 with weighting=2.3.

Enjoy, I hope.

[PYenner]

If you want FanailVMA2 to behave more like FanailVMA1, try Weighting=8.
Try ADX_Length=4 or 8 too.

[PYenner]

Walter

There will still be fast clean 3 bar reversals which "turbo" is still too slow to catch on a 1Min chart. The only answer there is to move to a platform like Don is using that has 10sec or 2sec charts. MT4 doesn't do faster than 1Min charts.
PY

[PYenner]

Unless you want to use Excel to process the ticks.... and give faster charts??? MT4 does export tick data to Excel ok.

[walterw]

Pyenner... man... I feel like a kid with a new toy...

did someone ever told you how genius you are ? I have to publicly congratulate you man, you ARE a genius... and not only that, but you are a very generous person...

I never imagined that vmar`s programming would ever grow to this point, and that hapenned thanks to your great capacity, willingness and generosity...

Now I look to a chart at VT and I only laugh at it... we have 2 weeks and two days since I started the vma thread... look how long we came in such few days... outstanding ¡¡

Ok... my next procedures here on the resesarch process :

This new lines fantailvma2 (and diverse input variations) they will be all oriented to the TIMING arena...

the fantailvma1 vmar on 5 min is already definitive for me in terms of settuping... so in this case I will not bother any more experimenting or optimizing nothing related to setuping...

on TIMING I did present a variation on some previous post (blue/white lines), that was before Pyenner introduced this cool new fantailvma2... SO... I will have to put some hours of research here, about how this line will show their edge into the timing optimization process... so far having some eyeball look, they already outperform the blue/white duo... so I will keep you posted...

Thanks again for such great contributions Pyenner ¡¡ cheers Walter.

[walterw]

Originally Posted by PYenner »

Walter

There will still be fast clean 3 bar reversals which "turbo" is still too slow to catch on a 1Min chart. The only answer there is to move to a platform like Don is using that has 10sec or 2sec charts. MT4 doesn't do faster than 1Min charts.
PY

Originally Posted by PYenner »

Unless you want to use Excel to process the ticks.... and give faster charts??? MT4 does export tick data to Excel ok.

1 min its ok for me... going any smaller complicates things to much in terms of charting platform access...

also reading so small movements can get the trader un-focus of the real swings he has to really shoot for...

so small movements in the case of forex... wich still has quite high costs ( even on ecn type brokers) does not give a good RRR for the trader...

So I would suggest that the trader is trading pattern out of a 5 min chart and doing a "very specific timing" out of a 1 min chart (max small reading)... cheers Walter.