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  1. Posted

    EOD...he may have been aiming for a big Golden C under his name. Not saying he was..just a guess that may or may not be true. See if he could present a 90% win rate in public the litte fishing worms would come out of their holes in the ground private mail him and he might could take them fishing. They, of course, would be the bait and he the fisherman. Guess who would eating the fish?

     

    Yep ....that horse kick knocked some horse sense into my brain...

     

    Funny how the Golden C boys stick together..."birds of a feather stick together" i once read somewhere that mr ross said people don't appreciate things when they are free...or something of that nature....so he charges what 1500 day (don't remember for sure his charge ) for talking to you with his sandpaper voice (i guess he can't help that though)...

     

    Nevertheless, mr Ross probally does have a profitable system...i have heard mostly good things about him.

     

     

    Why don't you just donate your system (with a pay if it works). If it works i am sure folks will be happy to thank you and pay you.

     

    I once developed a system and gave it to people and told them to pay me x amount if it worked for them and nothing if it didn't. Guess what, no one refused to pay me that it worked for. I never was cheated. Not a single time...

     

    Ya'll come on over to the beyond taylor thread where i will put my ego...neck....whatever...on the line...ya'll can jeer..cheer...praise...my efforts or jest laugh your noggin off...don't forget to bring your chewing bacca and spi can.

     

    Patuca,

     

    It is not my method to donate. It is Joe Ross's. Also, I am not in the teaching business. I will leave that to gurus such as yourself.

     

    Thank you.

     

    Tony

  2. Posted

    Then why post it here..to show off his ability to trade? Posting once in a while..."I placed a trade and made 10 ticks" with no description why or how isn't helping anyone on the forum..now is it?

     

    There was no real substance to his posts. Of course we all post things from time to time with no substance but continual worthless posts does no one any good.

     

    I did maybe sort of jeer..so did capt bob but not even that would incite him to post some other than basically: took a trade...made 10 ticks.

     

    Instead he gets offended...and takes off like speedy gonzales in a huff...never to return.

     

    He could have just written his log on a yellow legal pad at home and served the same purpose. If he don't want public probing of his methods then don't show up on a public forum.

     

    I did apologize for my sort of jeering but come on he needs to face reality...some things did not square up and he was busted..

     

    "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen"....may apply here..

     

    Probally nobody takes more jeering than Patuca on this forum and i am still around. I even jeer at myself..

     

    Good luck handle...and again i apologize for well, sort of jeering...i'm am sure you will peek back in to see what is being said since your grandiose departure...:rofl: :rofl:

     

     

    Handle you may jeer at me all you like as i do a series of taylor trades on the beyond taylor thread.. it will probally be a fiasco so you can find something to jeer about ...I am sure...

     

    Patuca,

     

    The heat in this kitchen is not hot. However, the purpose of this thread was to keep myself disciplined and focused as well as invite constructive discussion and comments. I have found another forum that suits my goals as this forum has not.

     

    I thought that Trader's Laboratory was a good place for traders to complement each other, not ridicule each other. The market is hard enough on us traders, we don't need more negativity from each other.

     

    Tony

  3. Posted · Edited by handle

    Who cares if his methods do not fit your understanding of JR methods - its his log for his benefit - not yours. And since you have never undertaken JRs private tuition who are you to say this isn't how JR trades today.

     

    Regarding his first post holding any trades overnight - it is you who should study carefully.

     

    MidKnight,

     

    Thank you for your posts. I am not sure what bobc was looking at. But a 4 min trade is not an overnight trade. Hopefully, he doesn't trade with real money... Or better yet, bobc can be on the opposite side of my trades anytime. :haha:

     

    Thank you.

     

    Tony

  4. Posted

    Hi Midnight

    Have you studied Joe Ross methods?

    I have

    The reason I was jeering was because I felt handle was not using JR methods .

    He was making it up.His entry points did not make sense.

    His very first post shows selling on a 5 min chart and then holding overnight for a 10 tick profit. JR would never do that.

    And when I offered to swap methods , he declined.

    And then he stated he bought at the open, which did not tie up with the arrows.

    And when Mr. Horseshoes asked for a tick chart,he was dead in the water.

    So before moralizing about TL, go and study all the posts carefully.

    Better still , show us handles method.

    regards

    bobc

     

    bobc,

     

    I am using the methods taught to me by Joe Ross. I am not making anything up.

     

    You are mistaken. The first post was a sell on a 5 min chart but it was not held overnight. In fact, the exit was less than 5 minutes. Please double check the chart, I was in at 9:16 AM (PST) and out at 9:20 AM (PST) the same day. This is not a daily chart. It is a 5 min chart. Therefore, each bar is 5 minutes; not one day.

     

    Also, I do not enter at the open of the bar, I place my resting order at the open of the new bar. The market then comes to me and either fills me or doesn't. I am not buying or selling the open price. In fact, to get filled at 9:16 AM (PST) on a 5 min chart would, by definition, mean I did not trade the open price.

     

    With regard to Mr. Horseshoes, I will post the tick chart with my fill in another post. Nobody is dead in the water, bob.

     

    Maybe if you spent more of your time being constructive, you would be a better trader.

     

    Take care...

     

    Tony

  5. Posted

    Terms are taken from Tony Crabel's famous book, "Day Trading with Short Term Price Patterns & Opening Range Breakout".

    This book is extremely rare and close to impossible to find. I have seen copies being sold on ebay for close to $1000.

     

    NR; Narrow Range - Today's trading range was narrower than the previous days range.

    NR7; Narrow Range 7 - Similar to the NR. The range was the narrowest compared to the last 7 trading days.

    WS; Wide Spread - Exact opposite of the NR. Today's trading range was wider than the previous days range.

    WS7; Wide Spread 7 - Similar to the WS. The range was the widest compared to the last 7 trading days.

     

    Inside Day - Price bar in which the high is lower than the previous days high AND the low is higher than the previous days low.

    Outside Day - Price bar in which the high is higher than the previous days high AND the low is lower than the previous days low.

    IDnr4 - An inside day with the narrowest trading range in the last 4 trading session's.

     

    Bear Hook - NR with Open < Previous Low and Close > Previous Close.

    Bull Hook - NR with Open > Previous High and Close < Previous Close.

    Stretch - The 10 period SMA of the absolute difference between the open and either the high or low, whichever difference is smaller.

     

    Is this book still applicable to today's markets?

  8. Posted

    Hi Handle,

     

    Would it be possible to post two charts for your next entry, one with a five minute chart, and another with your entry price marked on a tick chart with a volume pane beneath?

     

    Many thanks,

     

    BlueHorseshoe

     

    BlueHorseshoe,

     

    I am sure if you are interested in a tick chart, you are welcome to post one here if you like. I use a bar chart so that is what I post. Keeping it simple...

     

    Thank you.

     

    Tony

  9. Posted

    Good for you handle for applying Joe's methods on the odd occasion when you get a signal.

    There is nothing wrong watching the price all day as you learn.

    If you are not doing so already, pay careful attention to the LH and HL ... how they are formed and where they are formed and where the next bar starts in relation to the previous HL and LH.

    After awhile you will begin to see where the market is being pushed.

     

    johnw,

     

    One of the main tenants of Joe Ross is that markets are manipulated. Looking at the formation of the bars gives clues as to where the market makers want to take the market. The key is getting on board behind them when they do. Like remoras do with sharks.

     

    Thank you.

     

    Tony

  10. Posted

    ZDO

     

    This I think is one of your best posts.....especially the last paragraph

     

    What I observe about handle (more than just the trades he posts) is his approach to the "Profession" of trading....it seems to me that at some point, he made the decision to obtain the best tools he could find....in addition (to what you have pointed out) clearly he is taking personal responsibility for following the system....this is what you have to do, if you want to reach your goals....Clearly the result is excellent...now the only questions are....will the system hold up and can the operator continue to execute in a disciplined manner....

     

    I hope struggling traders find it inspiring...

     

    Steve,

     

    Thank you for your comments. My goal with this post is to keep me disciplined. I was hoping that students of Joe Ross would comment on any setups I may have missed or trades I executed incorrectly. Unfortunately, that has not been the case.

     

    Tony

  11. Posted

    See did you hear that capt bob the man has no slippage....we best make haste and advance to module two of the free course....for a considerable consideration you may even be able to get a diploma w/o finishing the course..

     

    is this happy training/trading or happy hour? Zdo are you smoking something? John w zip drive left alarmed at all the noise..

     

    Patuca,

     

    I use limit orders. There is no slippage with limit orders. However, there is the risk that the market will fly right past you without filling your order; but there is no slippage. I only post the trades I am filled on.

     

    You are welcome to take the course through Joe Ross or try and get some perspective by reading his books. I needed the private sessions since I had no background in trading. But an expert such as yourself might be able to just read the books.

     

    Thank you.

     

    Tony

  12. Posted

    Not everyone can trade/stick with Ross methods. Not everyone could trade / stick with Gann methods…

     

    Between posters taking shts on other people’s systems and the posters, (so far only anticipated in this thread, but blve me they are their way here) who fling ‘it’s all in the edge’ - deniers of the REQUIREMENT that an edge be compatible with it’s user, it’s no small wonder to me that handle shares anything at all. Bobc I really appreciate your contributions across time, but that post – I don’t think that one helped you or anyone else. Instead of honoring his proximity to finding a self compatible system ,. You’re overlaying your own filters on it and calling ‘nonsense’ ???

     

    The differences between ross methods and gann methods (in this case) abound in both structure and perceptual acuities required. The skill an eyeball Ross trader must develop (across time) is knowing those situations to stay out. This is really what separate Ross from ross traders … meanwhile most Gann methods need to be applied on every setup. … Gann found ‘no noise’ ie his 'inner geometry' tended to see and treat all pa as signal. Ross 'acknowledges' noise. His methods search for signal(s) in heavy noise… I haven’t the time to continue any comparisons in more depth...

     

    …If nothing else, Ross methods are 20 – 30 times more ‘algorithmically- friendly’ than anything Gann… especially for short holding periods.

     

    My point to noobs reading this - No method or edge in situ is "nonsense". Edges, in order be applied consistently across time, need to be matched to you, the individual trader. You're not just looking for an edge / method. You're looking for a method that matches well with your true nature.

     

    Thank you zdo!! Just trying to keep it real.

  13. Posted

    Hi Handle

    Double dog nonsense. (patent Patuca)

    Your RED / GREEN arrows show where you entered.

    You must have the highest slippage in the world

    Remember......novice traders come looking for help on TL.

    And they are eager to accept anything.

    And they will accept your posts as gospel

    I think your posts are morally wrong.

    But everybody else seems to accept your posts as genuine

    So I guess I am wrong..... me and Galileo.

    No regards

    bobc

     

    bobc,

     

    I am not experiencing slippage on my entries. I am not sure why in one post you want me to share Joe Ross's methods and in another you claim the posts are morally wrong. Joe Ross has been adopting these strategies for over 50 years. He taught them to me and others and they work.

     

    Thank you.

     

    Tony

  17. Posted

    have to work more than that to even consider a raise :rofl:

     

    tradingwizzard,

     

    I would like to make more trades but this approach is slow and steady. I am able to feed my family on it. But if you see setups that I am missing, please share.

     

    Thank you.

     

    Tony

  18. Posted

    Zzzz..zzzzz.. Yes? ...zzzz...zzz what? Did you say wake up a J Ross trade just took place....did you get it on video...zzzz...i'm going back to sleep...zzzz..zzz..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

     

    Well done mr handle...pay no attention to patucas humor. He is at the complete idiot level you know..per zdo..

     

    Patuca

     

    Patuca,

     

    Wake up. There was another!

     

    mr handle

  19. Posted

    OK handle

    Enough :(

    You show me yours and I'll show you mine.

    Explain your entry / exit strategy and I will teach you the Ambush method.

    regards

    bobc

     

    bobc,

     

    I'm sorry bobc but the purpose of this thread is to help me stay disciplined and not to teach or share the setups. You are welcome to contact Joe Ross yourself but I have no permission to share his methods publicly.

     

    Are you having success with the Ambush method? Do you post your trading log anywhere so we can see how you perform with it?

     

    Thank you,

     

    Tony

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