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  1. Posted

    Every container arrives at a Point Two in the exact same fashion. We differentiate the various fractals by Gaussian Line thickness, but each individual fractal container still travels through the Order of Events in the very same way as every other fractal.

    What container builds the channels?

    What container builds that which builds the channels?

    How do you annotate these three containers in your Volume Pane?

    I needto get this drawing correct. Here's another attempt.

    Each higher level container is built by 3 lower level containers.

    3levelsGaussians.thumb.png.14bde0dd43f85e44828adb5c4ebddfee.png

  2. Posted

    I'm not entirely certain you have the Order of Events correct once one sees R2R 2B or B2B 2R. Please review what you must see once the market has shown itself to have reached Point Three. Everything else looked fine. With respect to your 'Big Picture' gaussians, did you arrive at a Point Two in the big picture?

     

    Remember, when a dominant channel begins at its Point One, a traverse and a tape also begin at their Point One.

     

    - Spydertrader

    Here's my hand drawing of a point 1, 2 and 3 of a channel with their sub fractals.

    Based on this drawing, my "Big Picture" just completed the first 3 segments and point 2 of the channel has not been arrived yet.

    3levelsGaussians.thumb.png.ff48c5c5ca143dcc15a04c970a37f580.png

  3. Posted

    This chart from Spyder, may be helpful to understand the fractal nature of Gaussians.

     

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2205173

     

    Also see the discussion for the context : pages 1630-1636.

     

    Forums - Iterative Refinement

     

    Spyder, I guess you would allow.

     

    Gucci,

    Thanks for the links.

    How can you pick out a particular discussion from such a large thread? You must have some kind of indexing into that thread?

  4. Posted

    Spydertrader,

    Thank you for your patience and taking your time explaining to me how to recognize my errors. Either my understanding of the nesting of different levels of Gaussians is incorrect OR my translation of this understanding to the actual drawing is wrong.

    So let me make sure my understanding of the nesting is correct by answering your questions without looking at any chart first.

    If your Gaussians show you R2R, where are you with respect to the order of events?

    I have a new order of events and point 1 and 2 have been developed for this new sequence.

    If your Gaussians show you R2R 2B, where are you with respect to the order of events?

    This is a retrace from point2 to point3 of the new sequence.

    If your Gaussians show you R2R 2B 2R, where are you with respect to the order of events (and what then do you want to see to tell you this order of events has ended)?

    I have point 3 of the new sequence and I need a 2B 2B (decreasing black and then increasing black) to know this sequence has been ended. If I see 2B2R instead, the market is signaling this sequence will continue.

    What else do we know? Our Order of Events marks the minimum requirement needed to complete a given fractal. While no maximum exists, each component of the order of events must develop in the exact same fashion as the minimum level required.

    Please correct me if I misunderstood this statement.

    For minimum, I need B2B2R2B to complete a sequence. But this sequence can continue with 2R2B2R2B...?

    Begin with the slowest fractal (channel) and move faster.

    If I zoom out and look at the bigger picture, I see this.

    I will zoom into each line if this is correct.

    10072010_GaussiansChannel.png.3f4339350747cbf4b3d75ef57a65e443.png

  6. Posted

    You might want to stay focused on yesterday's chart (first with the morning portion) before moving onto more complex examples.

    Crawl. Walk. Run. Then, Fly.

    - Spydertrader

    Thanks for the advice.

    That is what I've planned for my weekend homework a long with studying other people's charts.

  9. Posted

    Forget the chart for a moment.

    Start at the 'fine' level.

    Pull out some blank sheets of paper, and focus on drawing volume gaussians - without any charts around. Move from Point One to Point Two to Point Three and onto the completion of the order of events. Now, do the non-dominant container. Do the dominant container again.

    Here's my Gaussians drawing on the paper.

    Please let me know if it's incorrect.

    Thanks.

    gaussiansDrawing.thumb.png.74f33123a9f17c536334a7138d9bb2f7.png

  10. Posted

    Before going back to the chart, let me answer your questions.

    How do you get to 'Point Two' of something that moves down?

    How did YOU arrive at point Two?

    Spydertrader

    Point 2 is at the peak/highest volume of R2R.

     

    Now. The 'Points' of one container find themselves created by some 'thing' formed by a faster level container.

    What is that thing?

    Points 1, 2 and 3 of a faster level container creates the slower level container.

    For down move, faster level R2R2B2R is needed to create the slower level container.

  11. Posted

    Look at your chart at the beginning of your annotations. In a previous post, you indicated how to arrive at Point Two. Do your annotations reflect this same assertion? Review your Point Three Annotations. Do your Gaussians show how you answered my previous post?

    Now go to the thin lines.

    What 'thing' forms the various 'points' on the medium lines? How does one arrive at this 'thing' through Volume? Do your lines reflect this?

    Sloppy annotation (irrespective of intent) serves no purpose in an environment of purposeful learning.

    - Spydertrader

     

    Spydertrader,

    Thanks for your feedback.

    I redrew the annotations and Gaussians lines the way I understood should be done from your questions. I redo only the first part so that if there is still mistakes, I have less chart info to figure out where the mistakes are located.

    Please let me know if I am on the right track.

    ES5min10072010_take2.thumb.png.0ce3234378560e31a35e12c19bf3c150.png

  13. Posted

    Your Gaussian construction does not match your trend line construction.

    If the market shows you B2B 2R, where are you?

    The market has been reversed it course and the trend line should be up.

    If the market shows you R2R, where are you?

    Down move is dominant and the trend line should be down.

     

    Thanks for your feedback. I'll review my charts.

  18. Posted · Edited by sambrown

    One more lateral that meets current topic.

     

     

    Differentiation

     

    Context

     

    Order of events

     

    I would say more bars are needed before the laterals to know which direction both of these laterals will exit.

    If the first bar (bar before the lateral) of both laterals are PT1s, then you know the laterals are retraces from PT2 to PT3 and the price will exit in the same direction as PT3.

    But if the first bar of the laterals are after PT3 and hence the up cycle is complete, the direction of price will be depending on the order of events inside the laterals.

  20. Posted

    Can we conclude there for the following differentiations:

    1. A dominant lateral who's first bar is on decreasing volume that "creates, with" the upper boundary will exit in the opposite direction from which it entered?

     

    2. A dominant lateral who's first bar is on increasing volume that "creates, with" the upper boundary will exit in the same direction from which it entered?

     

    I have not gotten to a point of making these conclusions yet.

    I am following Spyder's advise on analyzing the context and order of events.

  21. Posted

    FilterTip and dmk,

     

    Please compare Tiki's yesterday's lateral post with today's 11:10am lateral. Today lateral boundary was created by 11:20 and 11:25 bars. Did you see the same in Tiki's post?

    The differences between the two are the way the first bar was formed and the direction the price exited. I hope this help.

  23. Posted

    SpyderTrader,

     

    Thanks for your pointers. I will look deeper into the drills to do more analysis.

     

    Looking at the volume from end of last Friday, today started with decreasing volume going into the lateral which was a non-dom retrace going from PT2 to PT3. There must be a increasing down volume to complete the cycle. This is what happened when the price broke downward with increasing red volume.

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