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![]() | Pure VSA To start: Today's 3-minute ES: Background - Price rallied after the open, then spent an hour reacting in a slow drift down. Volume was less on the reaction than the volume on the rally off the AM lows. Spreads were also generally narrower on the reaction, and as the reaction progressed, volume receded. A Higher Low (HL) was put in. After an earlier, failed attempt to break above resistance at 1, price held its gains at 2 on light volume (no supply) and also held the Demand Line YY of an uptrend channel. All of this is bullish. Note the emphasis placed on the background. We always start with the background. ----- A - Price pushes through the resistance area (red line) on high volume. B - Next bar has sustained volume, but the spread is narrowed and the close is in the middle. C - This bar is up, but the volume has dropped off precipitiously. This tells us in advance that the Supply Line, ZZ, is unlikely to be broken. D - Supply enters where expected. D is a down bar, closing on its lows on heavy volume. E - An up bar, closing on its highs after dipping below D indicates another rally will be attempted. However, the narrow spread and low volume indicate that professional money has withdrawn, so the rally is unlikely to go very far. F - Volume increases and the spread widens a bit (increased activity), but the result is a close on the lows. This Hidden UpThrust indicates supply. ----- More Background - Support and resistance are important to VSA. Look at the current chart in relation to the 15-minute chart (attached). We are currently just above yesterday's close and, more importantly, in the 825 area which offered support yesterday moring and early afternoon, but which is now likely to offer resistance. Thus, the background conditions from yesterday are joining with the immediate supply conditions seen on the 3-minute chart for a nice short set-up. ----- G - the market reacts to the previous low at E and rallies, but does so on a narrow spread and low volume - No Demand. H - A Hidden UpThrust that closes below the close of G on an increase in volume. The market now starts to fall. Good locations to initate shorts were at F, G & H I - As the market falls, volume increases. This bar was a down bar on average spread closing on the lows. The increas in volume and poor close tells in advance that the support levels from the trend line at YY and the horizontal support line (red line) are unlikely to hold. J - Tells basically the same story - supply is in control (down bar, increased volume, above average spread, and close on lows). K - The bar after J is narrow spread, close in the middle and high volume. Next bar is up. Some buying came in here, but K swamped whatever buying existed with a widerer spread down bar, close below the previous two lows on an increase in volume. L - The swelling volume that came in between J and K knocked the market sideways. Note the spreads and the volume. Spreads are narrow, volume is low and receding as the market attempts to rally. The two bars immediately before L are No Demand. L is a Hidden UpThrust on an increase in volume which caught stops and then closed on its lows. Another good location to initiate a short. The last bar on the chart is wide spread down bar with an increase in volume, closing on its lows. Supply is in full control. This is just pure VSA. Not too shabby is it? Always look first to the background, then follow the bars as they tell the story of the unfolding market. Trying to read the market by looking at a bar or two won't work. It will only hurt you. As you can see, adding other things extraneous to VSA is unnecessary and likely to be confusing. Hope this is helpful, Eiger | ||
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![]() | Re: Pure VSA A - Very heavy volume comes in on a down bar. Note what happens on this volume. The spread narrows and the close is off the lows. Buying came in. B - The market tried to rally, but the rally is lackluster. ----- Background Check Note that this market is coming back down to the 814 AM support area. We would expect the market to at least pause here, and possibly turn and rally. ----- C - A break below the low of the high volume bar at A and well into the 814 support area, only to close back above A's low. Volume is still high, but not nearly as high as as the volume seen on A. D - A No Demand bar indicating supply may be drying up. We can tentitively say that buying is overcoming supply. E - This bar dips below C but closes in the middle of the spread - buying. Note that the volume is slightly less than at C. Next bar is up -- all bullish behavior. F - This is an interesting and telling bar. It drives down and is wider spread, but is unable to sustain a low close and more importantly, it is unable to draw out supply. Next bar dips lowrer (to the low of E) and closes on its highs - bullish. G - No Demand again. Volume has dried up to the downside. This bar closes in the same area as C & E. Compare the volume between G and C & E. This is why we can say volume to the downside has dried up. H - After dipping back to the lows of E & F, H takes off and pushes up through the congestion on a healthy increase in volume. Enough cause had been built from A through H to rally back to the noon-hour high. Please note the process: Background is always looked at first. Volume plays the key role in identifying weakness or strength and in analyzing the buying and selling as the market unfolds. Price bars tell us what happened on the volume. This is the method of VSA. Hope this is helpful Eiger | ||
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![]() | Re: Pure VSA presume you meant "No Supply" on D & G bar rather than "No Demand" | ||
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![]() | Re: Pure VSA Quote:
Thanks for catching that Eiger | ||
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![]() | Re: Pure VSA On your first 3-minute ES chart from the recent Pure VSA thread, you say, 'Good locations to initiate shorts were at F, G & H.Why is C not a good location to short ... there are several reasons: First, the background. The Supply Line, ZZ has not been touched yet by C. The Supply Line also represents the area that is Oversold. Taking a trade that is near, but not quite at O/S levels will likely get you stopped out as the market continues to move up into O/S territory, as it did here. Second, although C is indicating a withdrawal of demand by professional traders, it is still making a higher high and closing with a higher close. The market is still in an uptrend. It hasn't shown definate signs of weakness or distribution at this point (that does not come until F). An uptrend is higher lows, higher highs, and higher closes. We don't like to take shorts in an uptrend because of the high risk.Entry At F: You can enter a tick below F and place a stop above its high. That works well. You can also sell on the close of F with a stop above the high.Entries at G & H: You can enter on a tick below or on the close - either is fine. I would personally place a stop above F on these entries and would look to move to break even as soon as the support line (along the lows of E & G) was broken.Great questions! Hope this is helpful Eiger | ||
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![]() | Re: Pure VSA With regards to bar D, would we not short here as it is a down bar, and we only short up bars, or is there another reason? And with regards to bar E, even though it appears to technically be no demand, the volume is certainly not as low as the volume is on the bars around 2. Is this why bar E is not the greatest choice either? Bars D and F are something I've seen many times trading price action without volume. Enter on the break of the hammer at D with a stop above, only to be taken out by another hammer at F that eventually goes in your direction. It's this area around D,E and F that I hope VSA can help with. Thanks. | ||
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![]() | Re: Pure VSA we'll be seeing you in live chat to explain during real time live trading. best | ||
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![]() | Re: Pure VSA Aaron | ||
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