[zdo]

FXGirl,

thx. but let's credit Minoo with that link.

I sorta get what you're saying about intellect, etc. but most are not going to habitually “view their shenanigans with love and affection”. For most, he nails it with -
“Ironically as soon as a thought enters such as 'wow this is incredible' or 'my God we're doing fantastic' or 'this feels good', the flow disappears. Then unfortunately, the more we try to recapture it the more illusive it becomes.”
and
“'anything we really know, we know not through thought but through direct experience'.”
Basically, via ‘normal’ intellect, mind rarely even attempts to stop supplanting 'Big Mind'…
more and more lately I been mumbling ridiculous things like "the brains are our greatest obstacles to real thought"

To me, he's saying our habitual, enculturated, conditioned, repeating, death and suffering avoiding semantic streams need to go quiet (without 'trying to' ) - as one of the requisites to flow. (..and btw, this ‘mindfulness’ / thought watching he speaks of comes easier to some than others).

...

re "one of the requisites " It's been coming clear to me that flow is not a 'single variable' deal. Flow requires proper simultaneous involvement on multiple levels…
For example, his paper seems to emphasize the 'surrender' / non doing / stillness aspects. Equally important are the 'tension' / doing / action aspects... and alternating them in sync with the whole... etc etc

[minoo]

Topics of thyself made me look into my own trails of this journey so far
It allowed me to reflect back, thanks for thy theme!

This Easter I took some time off and jotted some down;
I usually refer to gray-matter better in my native language
I have tried to translate a poem..ish into English below

Hope you enjoy it
Minoo


Know ThySelf

Do you recognise thee creature within
How long this being, Bin in ?
Know-not much
Ado about
Though some noticeable knocks, Rocks within

In Yatra of bounty, luck rings the Till
Ch-ching, Ch-ching to the Altar of Plenty
Double me Gains, Fortunes I made
With Lady luck, I up the Ante
Banged the bottoms, Knocked the tops,
I bucked the lot and fill me pot
Narrow alleys, Sclaped so many
This Daytrading punter,
Thought, he tamed this Lady

Ever so Cocked, Came the fall,
The more I got up, the more I felt Lost
It notted me guts and empty me pot
Left me to wonder with last penny of lot
Adicted I find, no wine, no dime
No dice to roll, back on dole

Rested and Resurrected
New System I Christened, Trendy of mine
Ego restored, I gunned for plenty
The Big Boys in Pits, Poked me to bits
They slaughtered the Pig, on the floor

No Jolly for Johnny, Life aint no Dolly
Relegation of mine, sordid my Day Dreams
Thought bargained not, but inherited thy mind,
Wired so wrongly, lamented subconcious of mine
Have heard my story and repeated it all
How many times, Cries myself of all

My minds a Dice, Follows my Vice
Few times right & Acts even Wise,
Drowning me mind in Egoistic helpings
In feeling of Doom or Aura of Gloom
Trading Mantras, & Chants of Changes
I Dam this action, in air of Reflection
Guess all are: Self Inflicted Actions

Dont ask how, Does living a low life
Shaped by, Absence of reactions
Desire of freedom, jotted a new Dossier
Aware of his Karma, call-out to Brahma
This Punter Percieves & Ploughs within

I Question, I Quest,.... I dip in ..... ... ... .. .
Knock knock ........ ..... .... . ; Who Thou in
Flow of Tears, Drowns the Ego
Echo & Silence, Swallows last Sorrows
Mind Humms; Finds a Stop
Halo of it; Plants Thy Pod
No plan of Nature, Not BIAS nor Nurtured
Sense free of Ones, own good nature,
It only Flows, Thy Creature with no Feature,
Thou Simply prevails, in Effortless Gear
Shys away, if one wonders or fear
Open Mind knows, meaning of true nature

Ah .. Blip ...
........... . .. ..it all; Just .... . -Begins

[minoo]

Todays Motivator (good one)
js redirect

Be the real you
+++++++++++

Let life know who you are. If you have to hide yourself to
get what you want, do you really even want it?

And while you're at it, make sure you let yourself know who
you are. Be absolutely honest and authentic, especially with
yourself.

It's easy to get what you want from life. The real difficult
and essential work is figuring out what that is.

If you think it might be nice, that's not enough. If it
looks good on somebody else, that's not enough.

What you truly want is what you dearly love. It is something
that uniquely and elegantly expresses the real, live,
passionate person you are.

You cannot find that or follow it by pretending to be who
you're not. Be the real you, all the time, and joyfully feel
the Flow of your own great abundance.

From Ralph Marston

[minoo]

I am not sure if anyone has recommended this book already at Traderslaboratory & if so I whole heartedly second it. I came accross this book while trading at the prop shop in london last year. It has help me and my trader friends in many challenging issues of our trading lives. Trading OPM is challenging you need to be much rooted by yourself in your own trading. We liked it so much that we formed a study group to help each other out. Just remember one thing though we all learn things differently; And issues of self requires personal approach, I have prefer not to answer such individual question, niether I qualify to do so. If you give some thought towards your cognitive approach, process or method you may become a better learner and earner. Hope you all put it to good use.

Book Title: Trade With Passion and Purpose
Author: Mark Whistler


Contents


Part I All of the Answers are already Within

Chp 1 Finding Your Purpose Centre

Read the above two in the First Excerpt from the book
[media]http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/86/04700390/0470039086.pdf[/media]

or Preview it in Google Books


Enjoy Minoo

[zdo]

Originally Posted by gandalf33 »

I have one challenge only: I can't face losses.

Losses are killing me, a losing trade feels to me like a stab with a knife in the heart, while I have no problem losing at conventional games, e.g. chess, a single losing trade is something that puts me down. It's causing me so much pain that it's hard to express. I feel clouds darkening the sky of my mind after a losing trade. Like facing a huge block that you know will be almost impossible to get thru.

That thing is having a bazillion effects on me, all of them adverse:
1) my mood goes downhill, affecting my own and others' personal life
2) I have a great urge to find a flaw in the system after a losing trade, and correct it
3) after a streak of losing trades, just 2-3 are enough, or a month of trading where I'm +/- 0 on balance, or slightly below 0, I immediately seek a new system

…

'All negative emotion is expressed as flexion” Moshe Feldenkrais,
Anatomy trains: myofascial meridians ... - Google Books

“All…” is not entirely accurate – but it’s still close enough to be a general rule.

The point is - (even subtle) habitual flexion binds flow… and without flow one cannot consistently stay near the top of the ‘pareto’ of traders…

[minoo]

Zdo you may like this article check it out

Draft by Brett Steenbarger
The Mental Game of Trading

Enjoy Minoo