[FFTrader]

Has anyone use Shadow Traders? See: http://www.shadowtraders.com/AMP.htm

One time fee of $600 ... watching their videos on youtube ... any ideas / comments?

[Tams]

what would you like to learn from ShadowTraders?


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[FFTrader]

Any kind of comments an end user may have. Whether the signals were clear, any idea of the stops and profit targets, better in trend days or choppy days, etc.

[diablo272]

Just an observation, but Tams asked what you would like to learn FROM Shadow Traders, not what you would like to learn ABOUT Shadow Traders.

[FFTrader]

Pardon me.

I have no real items that I would like from them but a fellow trader was asking about it.

Their triggers seems quite good on their youtube videos. Obviously I would like to learn more ABOUT other trader's comments on them and / or their effectiveness.

Just a caveat - NOT looking for the holy grail but looking for another potential tool.

[HAL9000]

Pardon me as well.

but I have watched some of their videos.

So first of, I have a question:

I know different kinds of pivots, but excuse me, I am just a little beginner;

What are future pivots?


The more lines you add to your chart, the more often you are right, or wrong.
Some future pivot lines were commented, some other lines, I thought these lines were future pivots too, not.
Anyway, just lines.
This was all IMO.



Another thing, while it all looks so easy on their charts, on my charts its looks easy too.

But real trades are often a different story.

Some signals happen within not even a second on my charts,
but after the thought process (??? sec) I need at least 500 ms
until the signal from my brain reaches my finger for the mouse click.

And then its needs some more ms's ...

Anyway, a further question:

Where these videos commented as things happened?

Or later? (This one seems to be right, IMO.)



Regards,

Hal

P.S.: Hindsight, yes we all know, what we have should have done a long time ago.
And pictures, I have a lot of nice charts, but just, I have to sell nothing.
Well, maybe they have something of value, maybe not, but just be careful.
I could present you pictures, and sell you my indicators, but ...
it doesn't not mean that you will make a fortune,
only that I will get your money for my indicators.

You know.

[FFTrader]

Those lines looks like it has some similarities to the standard tradestation indicator "Trendlines Automatic" if you ask me ... and pivots calculations can be seen on www.mypivots.com ... the blue lines are timing stuff I have not been able to observe and see similarities / where it came from. To put all three together and come up with an indicator may be an accomplishment.

Of course, I have not seen or use it ... would like to hear some comments from someone who is an actual user - hopefully a profitable user.

[nyctrader]

FFTrader, the reason you haven't gotten any responses from users is that the software is brand new, just released earlier this month. Shadowtraders has been around a few years though. I just watched a webinar this morning and the course (with Ninja indicators) looks promising. By the way, entries and exits were being called during live trading.