[cooper59]

Now I am ABSOLUTLY NOT pumping their service.

I think it is very difficult to learn this occupation soley on your own. Obviously, reading and studying books is very important. IMHO, after a certain point, their is nothing like being in the environment of a live trading room. Seperating the good from bad, without question takes homework. Again IMHO, I do think there are several trading strategy's that with the correct discipline can be successful. Of course, one must use due diligence and research to find a teaching service that uses a working strategy. I have been a successful trader for a few years now but when I look back over the years, there are defintely 1 or 2 people who I know are a part of my success. I really do not want to start a war of words and do not take habit of cheerleading anyone or anything. The fact is, I did take their course less then 2 years ago. I found their teaching of Market Profile and Tape Reading to be very beneficial. It's something I still use today. I stayed in their room for about 4 months and then left to trade with friends. Learning to trade was the hardest and most challenging thing I have ever done. The trading zone did supply some good information but ultimatly the end result had to come from me.

[mezameo]

I can say that the community here coupled with the chat room is quite close to the value of a paid service. Perhaps if 2500 usd was a small amount of money, I would give it a thought. But it's probably better just to stick it in my account and test out some theories I learned here instead.

Congrats on becoming a profitable trader, whatever means to get there I say!

[Sinatra11235]

I was able to get a few good ideas from listening to the TTZ room and piecing together their approach. There are a few hidden nuggets on the the internet that can help you enjoy the chat rooms' secrets. They were well hidden, but since they were published by Greg himself there should be no question as to publishing his trade secrets. The following link has several days of the charts ("see them like never before") that they published in an open blog. Thankyou wayback machine.

http://web.archive.org/web/200701080...zone.com/blog/

From this you can setup your chart to look like the TTZ chart when you are listening. Most of it is straight forward except for the indicator similar to a bollinger band. This is a moving market profile with a TPO count above and below the POC. POC is the red band in the center and the UVA and LVA are in gray. The detailed explaination can be seen here.

THN Price Profile

The other pivot/S/R point indicator from the charts is a price target indicator from the same site. There is nothing very speial about this one.

TTZ Targets

I think that these are sold by Sec, but I am not sure about that. I have re-created these indicators for Tradestation. If there is interest, we can start a thread detailing this methodology.

[unicorn]

Originally Posted by Sinatra11235 »

I was able to get a few good ideas from listening to the TTZ room and piecing together their approach. If there is interest, we can start a thread detailing this methodology.

Yes Sinatra;
I would appreciate a thread on this methodology.
Please go ahead.

cheers.
Unicorn.

[tickiman]

Guys And Traders Stay A Way From The Trading Zone

Greg Weitzman Is The Moderator And Biggest Loser Who Only Making Money By Selling His Crapola For 2500usd

Do Not Pay Him And Stay Away

[mp_trader]

I checked these links and all have been disabled. I guess some of it was stuff greg did not want getting out.

[mp_trader]

tickiman,

You are absolutely right. Run -don't walk- away from these guys. I know someone, let's call them 'X', who spent the $$$ and took the courses. SEC does not use the setups that are taught. X has been there a long time, and SEC's calls come _before_ the setups taught. SEC is a great scalper, and you will not be able to duplicate his results. If you go into the room, and ask how many traders have been there for a year or more, you'll get about 40 of the 150+ in the room raising their hand. Of course, Greg will say something like, "They have already made their money, and they are probably at lunch". During the time you are there, you'll hear, "Its time to kick out some of these free-loaders", or some other such drivel, implying of course that their stuff is so good, that visitors are making a killing and not paying for the course. Then you'll hear them say this is a "demo room" and that no one can shadow SEC's calls and be profitable. So which is it?

[Hlm]

tickiman,

So this is how you write your very first post? By bashing a service without any evidence or specifics. And no, I am not specifically sticking up for The Trading Zone. My reply would be the same for any service that gets a similar reply (I am sick of posts like these). For you to come on here and bash ANY service without giving ANY meaningful information to back your claim is idiotic. Here at TL we like to keep posts/threads informational and useful. Unless you would like to discuss specifics please take the currently displayed pointless rantings to the OTHER forum where it will be gladly accepted with open arms.

Actually...here's a better idea. There are currently 39 pages of back and fourth banter over at the OTHER forum. Anyone who wishes can view them HERE. So unless someone has new information that is not currently displayed over on that site, let's keep it clean over here.

Also, it is $2,600 and does your comment "Guys And Traders" imply that traders aren't guys.

*Note: After rereading my reply above I have realized that it sounds much more harsh than I actually mean it to. However, I am not going to change it because I feel all the information is required.

Originally Posted by mp_trader »

I checked these links and all have been disabled. I guess some of it was stuff greg did not want getting out.

As would be expected.

Also, for your comments associated with the scalper in the room. I completely agree. From the short time I spent in there and others I know that are currently trading the system, everyone agrees that he is being used as a filler and an unrealistic one. To put the rest of you comment into perspective...that seems to be a major reason why many of the members do not stay in the room. The room doesn't give any more information that the members need which is why it's called a demo room. The head guy doesn't promote shadow trading (quite the opposite). To be honest, from what I have heard it seems like the "weaker" traders are the ones that stay in the room while like with any other service, the strong ones take the information they have learned, tweak it into their own style, and move on. As with any system/strategy/seminar some people will get a lot from it because it fits their personality, style, and goals. While others will find very little useful information and feel scammed.