[UrmaBlume]

At 1041 PST Today 05/26 on a failure to make a new high, intense commercial selling formed a spike that formed a local extreme that would see the market fall over 20 points to new session lows. That spike is shown in the first chart below.

Following the graph of the sell spike are 3 shots of the HUD taken during the next 2 hours of decline that show recommended TradePoints in 7 intra session time frames.

The chart below the HUD shots is of a smaller time frame and shows how our intelligent agents use inputs from measure of intensity and balance of trade to provide real time trade recommendations.

The last graph shows the buy spike in commercial intensity than ended our short and gave us a short term long that was good for almost 8 points and we closed out for the day.

These graphs show the power of the synergy that can come from using inputs from old-school technical analysis into state of the art intelligent agents and networks of agents.

This first graph shows the sell spike that started it all:




These three shots of the HUD reflect market conditions and show specific trade recommendations on the way down










This graph shows how agents operating in the shorter time frames parse legs in both directions



These 2 graphs show the buy spike that ended our short and gave us one last trade on the long side to end the day

[boomerangas]

As i said in earlier posts in my opinion these charts provide no value for the community because you are showing just a trends. I'm not pushing you to provide anything, nor i'm saying that it is a junk, just trying to dispute. I can show you a chart with a simple EMA's where are red paintbars and it is price below EMA and green - above EMA. I'd trade it tick by tick as your agents show. Or WCCI indicator, or any trend-following indi. All they screamed SELL. The main value comes when one/intelligent agent could avoid channel and to detect trend as early as it begun. I've programmed nearly 40 diffirent systems in my life and i could say that every system sucks if it's not detecting and avoiding chop and are not self-adjusting to x period volatility. So i'm also not so sure that your stuff is so great when there is no trend. Your problem is that you almost everywhere showing just a trends and what happened before this trend and no screenshots how did agents worked ( and intensity too ) when price was in channel all the day and every auto system sucked a lot. I'd say if the trader/system can't detect and to avoid chop it has no value, just mine opinion. If we could see how it trades chop, well i will say it's cool. If you'll say that you trade it, and this is not auto system well it's pure discretional trading. And good discretional trader doesn't need all this quant stuff. Look at the floor traders, they doesn't need any quant indicators and neuro advisors. Currently it's just self-ego fullfilling screenshots, because as you said there are no real quants at TL, and if there are some, all of them are working for you. Let's discuss chop avoiding/volatility adjusting techniques and not pure trend following stuff.

[brownsfan019]

Pat loves to provide after-the-fact charts on trending moves.

Since this was an obvious trade for you Pat and to show doubters out there, you should include your blotter as well showing actual executions and how you profited from this in real-time for once.

Otherwise, just another trending move that as the above poster said you don't need any fancy indicators to catch a trending move. A simple EMA will do the trick.

[TMBTC]

For shame. Regardless of the "reason," it's highly unethical to post private e-mail's and PM's in the public forum without permission. I trust the admins will delete the post as soon as it's discovered.

[UrmaBlume]

Originally Posted by TMBTC »

For shame. Regardless of the "reason," it's highly unethical to post private e-mail's and PM's in the public forum without permission. I trust the admins will delete the post as soon as it's discovered.

I agree but given the the situation where there is a huge spread between what they tell me and what they post in public, I think the public's right to know the truth trumps the duplicitous posters' protection. I certainly don't mind if they post my replies.

[boomerangas]

Hey, Pat, i'm ethical person and i will not do same things. Just for a future - take it easy, you have very strong self-defending instinct. It seems that you've had some problems in your childhood or at school with another kids. Yes, i've reproduced your indicator and i've reproduced it to see if it have some value. I don't see anything wrong in these emails because i've just asked some charts from you to compare my work with yours. And now after the testings i see that it doesn't provide any edge. I just trying to discuss this thing and you are taking this as an attack to your person. You know, i'm talking the truth and here is a reason why you are so angry. The truth are attacking your EGO and worthless systems. Please, don't spam anymore, the person who have developed/will develop these indicators will see no value here and the person, who can't develop it wouldn't study nothing new from your worthless screenshots.

Originally Posted by UrmaBlume »

I agree but given the the situation where there is a huge spread between what they tell me and what they post in public, I think the public's right to know the truth trumps the duplicitous posters' protection. I certainly don't mind if they post my replies.

[UrmaBlume]

Originally Posted by Simple »

Agreed TMBTC.

Disgusting behavior. I guess that's what we'd expect from someone who starts up thread after thread to spam the forum.

Spam is when you are selling something, right? You will notice I turned down these offers to buy as well as more than 100 others and have never sold or leased the technolgoies discussed in these threads to anyone.

cheers

[UrmaBlume]

Originally Posted by boomerangas »

Hey, Pat, i'm ethical person and i will not do same things. Just for a future - take it easy, you have very strong self-defending instinct. It seems that you've had some problems in your childhood or at school with another kids. Yes, i've reproduced your indicator and i've reproduced it to see if it have some value. I don't see anything wrong in these emails because i've just asked some charts from you to compare my work with yours. And now after the testings i see that it doesn't provide any edge. I just trying to discuss this thing and you are taking this as an attack to your person. You know, i'm talking the truth and here is a reason why you are so angry. The truth are attacking your EGO and worthless systems. Please, don't spam anymore, the person who have developed/will develop this indicators will see no value here and the person, who can't develop it wouldn't study nothing new from your worthless screenshots.

You might notice that I have been publicly thanked 403 times for my posts. I receive almost daily emails and pms thanking me and congratulating my on the same work you suddenly find worthless after you pestered me to buy it and show you how to build your own.

Some get a lot from my posts, some get a little bit and some don't get it at all.

BTW from what you showed me of your work, it in no way resembles the work we are doing. But you already know that because I told you that almost a month ago.


UrmaBlume