[Tams]

somewhere else in the forum, there is a thread on
Catalogue of Strats Which Worked
http://www.traderslaboratory.com/for...rked-7750.html

well... let's attack the grail from both sides,
let's assemble a
Catalogue of Strats Which DID NOT Work

the other thread focus on automated systems,
I am starting this thread in the general trading area,
so that we can talk about Concepts, Methods, Tactics, Strategies as well as Systems.

[Tams]

Let me kick off the discussion...

regarding the old adage... the Trend is Your Friend


one strategy that does not work is to go against the trend.

but, you might ask... how do I know the trend?

a kid can eyeball the chart and tell you the trend.
but we are not kids,
we over analyze things,
we can see the trees, but not the forest.

ok, a few people other than kids can see the trend too,
I am referring to the price action folks.

but not everybody are gifted to be price action traders, what am I to do?


May I suggest a moving average?
any moving average would do... simple, exponential, weighted, zero lag... etc.

what about the length?
try 20 period to start... then adjust as required.

try this analysis:
measure the trough to peak range of the moving average...
which range is bigger?
the down leg or the up leg?

ask yourself...
which leg has more profit potential?
which leg would you rather be on?



side note:
what not to trade:
instrument that has little volume
instrument that has little direction
they maybe good for investing/gambling, but not trading

[macdfx]

If you consider using moving averages as trading with the trend, then what is your opinion about "moving average crossovers"? Do they work for you?

[Tams]

Originally Posted by macdfx »

If you consider using moving averages as trading with the trend, then what is your opinion about "moving average crossovers"? Do they work for you?

you are welcomed to start a new thread on the subject.

[macdfx]

Originally Posted by Tams »

you are welcomed to start a new thread on the subject.

I thought this was a discussion, and you brought up moving averages.

I expounded on your comment and asked about moving average crossovers and your opinion of them....

Or what exactly is it that you are trying to discuss here?

[Tams]

Originally Posted by macdfx »

I thought this was a discussion, and you brought up moving averages.

I expounded on your comment and asked about moving average crossovers and your opinion of them....

Or what exactly is it that you are trying to discuss here?

I am trying to assemble a
Catalogue of Strats Which DID NOT Work.

if you think MA crossover does not work, then post it here.
if you don't know if it works or not, then start a thread to discuss.

[BlowFish]

Actually tough to come up with qualified answers.

I'll offer this one buying 'oversold' selling 'overbought' markets based on oscillators (such as stochastic s) in trending markets.

[Frank]

doing the same things in different market environments.