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![]() | Re: Reading Charts in Real Time My goal is to get an entry, set my stops and PT(s), shut down, and go to bed. As Thales says, his own best trades occur when he sets the orders at night and everything works its magic while he sleeps. (However, I'll take a shorter term trade if the setup is crying out at me). Just for fun, and I know this is a pointless exercise, I just looked back to see what would have happened if I had traded last night... Obviously this is hindsight (except the UJ, which I posted my opinion about before it dropped), but I think I have somewhat of an idea of what I would likely have taken in real time... I would have gotten to take this: Quote:
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![]() ...and I could have gotten a long on the GU. ![]() These are just the ones I find really obvious. There were probably more, especially smaller degree swings. | ||||
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| Re: Reading Charts in Real Time Two charts of the 6A (AUDUSD futures). This is not one I follow, but I was prompted to open it up today in response to zt's posts, and I had an idea of how I might be able to illustrate the concept of degre of swing or trend for those who are trying to understand it. I used a software called MTPredictor to identify three degres of swing (I've mentioned MTP here before, and I know daedalus also owns it or has access to it - this is in no way meant to be an endorsement of the product, I am using it as a tool - a very expensive tool - to illustrate a point). MTP is an Elliot Wave software, and it has the capacity to fous upon thre levels of trend which it calls major, intermediate, and minor. This first chart is the 15 minute 6A. I know it may be difficult to make out, but the notes on the chart should help you see how the same price action can be cut up or bundled into groups of moves of various sizes, i.e. swings of differing degree. ![]() I select one swing to illustrate this concept in the above chart. As you can see, the software identifies one major swing that it breaks down into seven intermediate swings, and thirteen minor swings. Each of these degrees can be traded. But nothing says you must trade each. Some traders, for example, daedalus, tend to focus on the minor swing level. I tend to look at the intermediate swing level. My daughter, for what its worth, is usually using the major swing levels to get her into intermediate degree moves. I mentioned my friend Mark yesterday, and he trades only the major swing levels, and pays no attention to what is occurring at the minor or intermediate swing level. This will make a difference in the number of opportunities a trader finds, as well as the extent, in terms of both magnitude of price movement and amount of time in a trade. Look at the following chart of the 6A. ![]() In this case, I used a 34 minute chart (an old favorite of mine that I still look to from time to time, but not nearly as often as I should). In this chart, you can see where a trader trading the major swings would have gotten long at the 123 at the lower left hand corner of the chart, and would have stopped and reversed to short on the first short sequence of major swing degre at the far right hand corner. In the meantime, traders trading the intermediate and minor swings would have been quite busy during both the uptrend and the nascent downtrend. The tricky part, of course, is apparently learning to distinguish these degrees from one another. I think that perhaps being conscious of the concept may be half (or more) of the battle. I hope this helps. Best Wishes, Thales | ||
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LOL. Shes only 9. You wait until shes 13-15 and you'll find out what a drama queen is ... it is coming to a room near you. | ||
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| Re: Reading Charts in Real Time Best Wishes, Thales | ||
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| Re: Reading Charts in Real Time Best Wishes, Thales | ||
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![]() | Re: Reading Charts in Real Time I think I'm going to be taking some time off from trading/posting. I need some time to reflect, read, review, collect my thoughts, etc. I feel like lately (this week) I've somewhat lost sight of the "forest" from focusing too much on the "trees." I want to take this time off and decide exactly what I'm going to be doing when I resume trading this Monday. Cory Last edited by Cory2679; 01-20-2010 at 11:53 PM. | ||
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__________________ "You have to recognize that every 'out front' maneuver is going to be lonely. If you feel entirely comfortable than you're not far ahead enough to do any good. That warm sense of everything going well is usually just the body temperature of the herd. Only if you're far ahead enough to be at risk do you have the chance to reap large rewards." | ||
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__________________ "You have to recognize that every 'out front' maneuver is going to be lonely. If you feel entirely comfortable than you're not far ahead enough to do any good. That warm sense of everything going well is usually just the body temperature of the herd. Only if you're far ahead enough to be at risk do you have the chance to reap large rewards." | ||
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