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Ingot54

To Arm or to Disarm.

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THE REAL PROBLEM:

 

What can dumb a mind down to such an extent that the person no longer can see

real people any more and loses all touch with humanity and reality?

 

In a word ... fear.

 

Fear of "them"

Fear of the future

Fear of the delirious scenario

Fear of loss ... of the consequences of not being "prepared"

Fear of not being superior to any and all threats, perceived or real

Fear of being humbled

Fear of not winning

Fear of the "bad guy" laughing at us

 

Yes, Smmatrix, those who want to carry guns for ANY of those reasons, is already

dumbed down to the concept that a violent response will overcome a violent offense.

 

Now that is dumb.

 

You didn't ever get back to me with the answer to the question: "Have you ever tried

love?" ... except to take the cheap shot at me (paying attention) and thus appear to

have answered something ... (answered what? ... I do not know).

 

I think you are afraid of intimacy, and the guns provide you with a way to prevent those

closest to you from engaging you intimately. Your guns always empower you ... not your intellect.

 

If you had your guns taken from you, and had to stand up and justify your use of

violence to counter perceived violence ... you could not do it.

 

Your cellar is empty - devoid of intelligent and even emotional engagement at a level

that could take the very first, tiny step towards ridding society of the need to even

remember what a gun used to be.

 

In a world that I strive for, I want no one to carry a weapon, save for his brain and his

ears and occasionally his mouth, but certainly he will require his good heart.

 

Right now that world is only a concept, but I think it is a worthwhile goal.

 

And if there are enough Ingot54's out there, we can achieve it, though some Ingot54's

may pay a price for it.

 

I am willing to die for such a dream, my dream.

 

Just as you seem suicidally bent on dying for yours.

 

At the end of the day, one of us will achieve our dream.

 

You'd better hope it is me.

 

In the meantime, going back to the quote above ... don't talk to me of "humanity" - you

wouldn't have the first idea of the word.

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If the lib-nuts really did care about love and compassion, they would speak up against the real atrocities going on with the children, rather than trying to take guns away from law abiding citizens.

 

 

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If the lib-nuts really did care about love and compassion, they would speak up against the real atrocities going on with the children, rather than trying to take guns away from law abiding citizens.

 

 

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Which one are you glorifying ... justifying ... asking us to choose?

 

Introducing a red herring (abortion) instead of staying with the topic is not a legitimate tool of debate - it wins debates ... yes, but the intent of the discussion is then lost - and the ego wins again.

 

How is bringing in the topic of abortion going to address the topic of putting assault weapons in the hands of school teachers ... effectively encouraging violence as a response to violence?

 

It does not address this issue, and cannot - the issue of death-by-abortion is an attempt to introduce a sub-topic and I cry foul!

 

Get back to the topic.

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I don't appreciate .......
I don't appreciate wanton violence portrayed in Hollywood movies, X-box games and in the minds of many gun collectors. Bushmaster ad slogan "Consider your man card reissued" which they have now taken down off their site. Wonder why? :roll eyes:

 

If I had the final say, which obviously I don't nor anyone else in this fu@#ed up world, would ban MOST guns - not just assault, semi-assault, pseudo-assault guns.

 

No condescension just opinion, like everyone else.

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Introducing a red herring (abortion) instead of staying with the topic is not a legitimate tool of debate - it wins debates ... yes, but the intent of the discussion is then lost - and the ego wins again.

 

How is bringing in the topic of abortion going to address the topic of putting assault weapons in the hands of school teachers ... effectively encouraging violence as a response to violence?

 

Get back to the topic.

 

I responded to your repeated questions regarding love. I'm sorry if my answer doesn't appease you and now you're crying foul to get back on topic. I understand dead babies are not things the lib-nuts rather discuss in the same context as love.

 

We can get back on topic.

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Being outside the USA I sincerely hope you can come to some meaningful progress on restriction of access of firearms.

It is so sad to see a stream of massacres, from what I can see is unrestricted access to firearms, from your shores.

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Seems like there is alot of passion on this topic. Is there any data or studies or any fact linking a decrease in violence and or violence in schools with guns in conjunction with an increase in gun laws and and or gun restrictions? How do we know that an increase in gun laws will directly decrease gun violence? Do states that have stricter gun laws have proportionate to a lower gun violence rate? Are there any facts or just assumptions and opinions?

 

Seems like the thread slid into abortion, God, and gun control with 2 hands. Did the state that this latest tragedy happen have gun laws that allow you to walk into a gas station buy a pack of smokes and an AK? Was it a state that had similar laws to most of the states. Are the laws more restrictive then most states?

 

Is it possible that an increase in gun legislation has little or no effect on violence? DO other countries that have stricter gun laws have lower violence? Or do they just have lower gun violence?

 

Can some one link the studies to the facts?

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Tams, you must not know your firearms. Those weapons in your image are fully automatic weapons and are NOT legal in the USA. And, yes, that junk food garbage should be illegal in the US because the sheeple will eat anything sold.

Wrong.

 

They are not legal for new purchases.

 

They are legal by those who had already owned them before legislation outlawed them and can actually still be sold to others if need is shown and proper licensing are obtained to effect ownership change.

 

Of course it is probably a snowball's chance in he!! someone would acknowledge owning such weapons and also that they would like the government's blessing to sell them to someone else.

 

George Carlin - said something like "ban toys guns but allow the real ones. Insane".

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Seems like there is alot of passion on this topic. Is there any data or studies or any fact .......
Gun nuts like to point out high gun murder rates in cities like Chicago and Washington, DC with tough guns laws.

 

In isolation it is hard to point to studies and say a ha. See it works. Oh no it doesn't.

 

Guns don't stop at city and state borders because of a law on the books.

 

If anything they move into areas that are restricted same as the bootleggers during prohibition.

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I responded to your repeated questions regarding love. I'm sorry if my answer doesn't appease you and now you're crying foul to get back on topic. I understand dead babies are not things the lib-nuts rather discuss in the same context as love.

 

We can get back on topic.

 

Gun control is not a conservative/liberal issue.

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Gun nuts like to point out high gun murder rates in cities like Chicago and Washington, DC with tough guns laws.

 

In isolation it is hard to point to studies and say a ha. See it works. Oh no it doesn't.

 

Guns don't stop at city and state borders because of a law on the books.

 

If anything they move into areas that are restricted same as the bootleggers during prohibition.

 

Right, Gun Nuts. We don't want to hear from them. We (or at least I do) want creditable sources that have at least attempted to discover the facts pertaining to the topics.

 

So if its like bootleggers during prohibition then we all know how that ended. It ended with an amendment to the constitution I believe.

 

It seems that a consequences at this point is more guns on the street. I would be willing to bet that an unintended consequence of this whole situation is more people carrying guns and more opportunity for folks that shouldn't have access to them. I have seen a bunch of stories about the increase of gun sales and magazine sales from many different news sources. They all point to the fear that Obama will crack down hard on gun control. So it appears at least at this point that a crack down is at least at this point having the opposite intended effect.

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If the lib-nuts really did care about love and compassion, they would speak up against the real atrocities going on with the children, rather than trying to take guns away from law abiding citizens.

 

 

compassion.jpg

 

LOL... then why do you need to arm to the teeth to protect yourself from a 280lb intruder in the middle of the night? That ain't going to happen to you. There is no chance in hell that is going to happen to you... your "fear" is unfounded, according to your stats. You are more likely to have died before you were born !!!

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Seems like there is alot of passion on this topic. Is there any data or studies or any fact linking a decrease in violence and or violence in schools with guns in conjunction with an increase in gun laws and and or gun restrictions? How do we know that an increase in gun laws will directly decrease gun violence? Do states that have stricter gun laws have proportionate to a lower gun violence rate? Are there any facts or just assumptions and opinions?

 

Seems like the thread slid into abortion, God, and gun control with 2 hands. Did the state that this latest tragedy happen have gun laws that allow you to walk into a gas station buy a pack of smokes and an AK? Was it a state that had similar laws to most of the states. Are the laws more restrictive then most states?

 

Is it possible that an increase in gun legislation has little or no effect on violence? DO other countries that have stricter gun laws have lower violence? Or do they just have lower gun violence?

 

Can some one link the studies to the facts?

 

we are one confused bunch of cookies

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Yes I can see how my questions can seem confusing. It is kind of funny asking for facts from irrational people who seem bent on pushing opinions as facts.

 

Also kind of an oxymoron to ask anyone on TL to produce facts to back up opinions. But hey I thought it was worth a try.

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Yes I can see how my questions can seem confusing. It is kind of funny asking for facts from irrational people who seem bent on pushing opinions as facts.

 

Also kind of an oxymoron to ask anyone on TL to produce facts to back up opinions. But hey I thought it was worth a try.

 

You want facts. Lead by example.

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Right, Gun Nuts. We don't want to hear from them. We (or at least I do) want creditable sources that have at least attempted to discover the facts pertaining to the topics.

 

So if its like bootleggers during prohibition then we all know how that ended. It ended with an amendment to the constitution I believe.

 

It seems that a consequences at this point is more guns on the street. I would be willing to bet that an unintended consequence of this whole situation is more people carrying guns and more opportunity for folks that shouldn't have access to them. I have seen a bunch of stories about the increase of gun sales and magazine sales from many different news sources. They all point to the fear that Obama will crack down hard on gun control. So it appears at least at this point that a crack down is at least at this point having the opposite intended effect.

 

Hate to quote myself but apparently I have to lead by example....... again

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LOL funny how when you ask a few questions people get offended. LOL I did post some already. Why don't you go and read the ones I posted. Or not and continue to be ignorant.
I suppose crackhead Charlie Sheen thinks a Bloomberg news article passing for facts these days too.

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I suppose crackhead Charlie Sheen thinks a Bloomberg news article passing for facts these days too.

 

LOL... TL ppl made millions on Bloomberg news. We have been missing the boat. :doh:

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    • Date: 15th April 2024. Market News – Negative Reversion; Safe Havens Rally. Trading Leveraged Products is risky Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Markets weigh risk of retaliation cycle in Middle East. Initially the retaliatory strike from Iran on Israel fostered a haven bid, into bonds, gold and other haven assets, as it threatens a wider regional conflict. However, this morning, Oil and Asian equity markets were muted as traders shrugged off fears of a war escalation in the Middle East. Iran said “the matter can be deemed concluded”, and President Joe Biden has called on Israel to exercise restraint following Iran’s drone and missile strike, as part of Washington’s efforts to ease tensions in the Middle East and minimize the likelihood of a widespread regional conflict. New US and UK sanctions banned deliveries of Russian supplies, i.e. key industrial metals, produced after midnight on Friday. Aluminum jumped 9.4%, nickel rose 8.8%, suggesting brokers are bracing for major supply chain disruption. Financial Markets Performance:   The USDIndex fell back from highs over 106 to currently 105.70. The Yen dip against USD to 153.85. USOIL settled lower at 84.50 per barrel and Gold is trading below session highs at currently $2357.92 per ounce. Copper, more liquid and driven by the global economy over recent weeks, was more subdued this morning. Currently at $4.3180. Market Trends:   Asian stock markets traded mixed, but European and US futures are slightly higher after a tough session on Friday and yields have picked up. Mainland China bourses outperformed overnight, after Beijing offered renewed regulatory support. The PBOC meanwhile left the 1-year MLF rate unchanged, while once again draining funds from the system. Nikkei slipped 1% to 39,114.19. On Friday, NASDAQ slumped -1.62% to 16,175, unwinding most of Thursday’s 1.68% jump to a new all-time high at 16,442. The S&P500 fell -1.46% and the Dow dropped 1.24%. Declines were broadbased with all 11 sectors of the S&P finishing in the red. JPMorgan Chase sank 6.5% despite reporting stronger profit in Q1. The nation’s largest bank gave a forecast for a key source of income this year that fell below Wall Street’s estimate, calling for only modest growth. Apple shipments drop by 10% in Q1. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
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