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I am a floater. here and there. I may be in canada on a motorcycle. i decide to bike around in mexico. or some other place that strikes my fancy. i may go to the states. i am not your respectable looked up to citizen that has the worship of the community. generally i dont like people. i prefer being alone. i don't like all the noise of society. i may catch a flight to some place in central america or fly from central america to somewhere else. i do like to go to a city and sit in a park. i do like to go by a lake and camp. i do like to drink coffee in a coffee shop if i don't have to talk to people. i like to sit in a mall and watch the crowds but i don't want to talk to them. in short i am weird. you are probally better off not paying any attention to anything i say. btw i like to read.

 

Hi Patuca

You do sound a bit weird.

And travelling from Canada to Mexico..........

Forget I even mentioned it.

How do you trade on a motor cycle?

regards

Bob Hoover

Special Agent

FBI

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Bob,

 

silver has sort of a double character,one as a precious metal and one as an industrial metal. So you have quite some exposure to various fields. Fundamentally you mainly have the investors driven by fear of inflation and value safety seeking on one side and industrial demand on the other while the effect of the industrial demand is larger than the investor´s but the latter is growing.

 

There is a shortage of available silver(above ground) compared to the availability of gold since its usually not consumed,but that is by no means reflected in price as gold simply has a greater demand.

 

Politics.....I dont know....some people suggest that prices are artificially held down,but you sure have read such stories,too.

 

I beg your pardon,but I have no clue what you ask in regard to exchange rate?

 

My sentiment which is based only on price action and volume and covers only the next few weeks is that we are in a sideways trading area amid a pullback that hasnt seen its low yet.

 

Again my apologies,but no idea on "Bunker Hunt"

 

The only correlation I see with China is through their industrial demand,recession in China is not a good thing for silver.There are other correlations,too,like copper,dollar index,gold to a degree although that has lessened in recent time.

 

My attitude towards all this is rather distanced as I basically work my book,catch the news for major events and just ride the wave so to say.Silver is highly volatile as its a small market influenced by various factors.I have never been up to watching all of these.I only see use in that if you take long positions for more than 6 months or so and need to do long-term informed decisions.

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Hi Patuca

You do sound a bit weird.

And travelling from Canada to Mexico..........

Forget I even mentioned it.

How do you trade on a motor cycle?

regards

Bob Hoover

Special Agent

FBI

mexico and central america have lots of internet cafe for about .50 to 1.00 usa dollar per hour so it isquite easy to trade for a few hours from one of these. also usb modems can be bought giving access to internet from a laptop for 2.00 or so day or 25 dollars or so for a month. one can buy 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, or 1 month for modem use on a usb. of course if traveling in the states many places have free wfi so generally it isn't a problem to get on the net.

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Bob,

 

silver has sort of a double character,one as a precious metal and one as an industrial metal. So you have quite some exposure to various fields. Fundamentally you mainly have the investors driven by fear of inflation and value safety seeking on one side and industrial demand on the other while the effect of the industrial demand is larger than the investor´s but the latter is growing.

 

There is a shortage of available silver(above ground) compared to the availability of gold since its usually not consumed,but that is by no means reflected in price as gold simply has a greater demand.

 

Politics.....I dont know....some people suggest that prices are artificially held down,but you sure have read such stories,too.

 

I beg your pardon,but I have no clue what you ask in regard to exchange rate?

 

My sentiment which is based only on price action and volume and covers only the next few weeks is that we are in a sideways trading area amid a pullback that hasnt seen its low yet.

 

Again my apologies,but no idea on "Bunker Hunt"

 

The only correlation I see with China is through their industrial demand,recession in China is not a good thing for silver.There are other correlations,too,like copper,dollar index,gold to a degree although that has lessened in recent time.

 

My attitude towards all this is rather distanced as I basically work my book,catch the news for major events and just ride the wave so to say.Silver is highly volatile as its a small market influenced by various factors.I have never been up to watching all of these.I only see use in that if you take long positions for more than 6 months or so and need to do long-term informed decisions.

yes silver is manipulated. its price is held down. once the shorts unwind it will spike up. i expect to see silver 70 to 100 ounce sometime between now and end of 2013. best thing to do with silver is buy it..take delivery...hide it and when it is the talk of the day take it and sell it.

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You've got it in one - Spreadbetting is exactly the same as the bucket shops that Livermore frequented (although no more chalkboards - technology has moved on a bit!). However, unlike bucket shops, which 'bucketed' orders, the UK Spreadbetting companies offset orders (or hedge) using an underlying market (usually futures). They don't off-set every order individually however, so if Mitsubishi goes long at £2 per point on the ES then they're not specifically hedging Mitsubishi's order - they just sit and look at their net exposure in a single market across thousands of trader's positions.

 

The fact that the Spreadbetting company hedges rather than buckets means that, theoretically, there is not the same conflict of interest as their was between Livermore and the bucket shops - a Spreadbetting company is in theory a neutral counter-party.

 

Hope that helps to explain.

thanks for the explanation. looks like a losing game to me. one would be trading against their broker. they are gonna win.

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Bob,

 

My sentiment which is based only on price action and volume and covers only the next few weeks is that we are in a sideways trading area amid a pullback that hasnt seen its low yet.

 

Again my apologies,but no idea on "Bunker Hunt"

 

The only correlation I see with China is through their industrial demand,recession in China is not a good thing for silver.There are other correlations,too,like copper,dollar index,gold to a degree although that has lessened in recent time.

 

My attitude towards all this is rather distanced as I basically work my book,catch the news for major events and just ride the wave so to say.Silver is highly volatile as its a small market influenced by various factors.I have never been up to watching all of these.I only see use in that if you take long positions for more than 6 months or so and need to do long-term informed decisions.

 

Hi Silver

I trade fundamentals short term.

I am interested in silver. There is no silver in South Africa.

Who is the biggest buyer of silver?

What happens when the biggest buyer stops buying ?:roll eyes:

My impression is the silver market has been flat for a while.

Is there enough movement using TTT to make some money?

regards bobc

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Hi misibushi

Its Monday morning 6am

Another week of opportunity dawns.

Chinese PMI figures are up.So commodity prices will steady and rise. And the Rand will weaken against the $.

Its nearly full moon,so the market has reached the bottom of a leg and will rise.;)

Friday is Easter long weedend. So all traders are sellers on Thursday.

Its school holidays.,so volume will be down a bit. That means a flat week.

With all this info, who needs Taylor.

regards

bobc

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Mitsubishi,

 

Would you please quit polishing the turbo charged mini cooper long enough to send us some trading info on your buddy taylor that is his possible view for april 1. Then we can all do some spread gambling.:helloooo:

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Just popping in for a moment. April 1, 2012 is a BUY day in Taylors scheme of things. I am looking to short, probally in the night session, around 1406. That is, I am looking to short a High made first per Taylors rules. If I get in and for some reason it trades UP then I will take a loss quickly and wait for it to tank out before shorting again. If it starts trading up and has no real decline then I will just stand aside and not take a Taylor trade. That said. I am looking for a decline and it probally will start tonight. Then again, it may not until the day session. Just have to wait and see. Naturally, I will also be looking for 1 to 3 point scalps as I have time to. Don't know when I'll have time to come back on this site but if possible I will try to recap 4-1-2012 trading.

 

Good Trading

 

Why?

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Hi Silver

I trade fundamentals short term.

I am interested in silver. There is no silver in South Africa.

Who is the biggest buyer of silver?

What happens when the biggest buyer stops buying ?:roll eyes:

My impression is the silver market has been flat for a while.

Is there enough movement using TTT to make some money?

regards bobc

 

 

Bob,

 

I have no idea who is the biggest individual buyer,at times it may be one of the ETFs.What happens if the biggest buyer´s demand dries up,come on that was rhetorical,wasnt it;)

Silver bulls got shot last time on 2/29 during the speech of one B.Bernanke,since then it is range-bound and I guess it will be for a while. And I have yet to see the first correct price projection of silver higher than 50USD as in my experience someone pulls the plug when the 40USD are reached.

As with any instrument you can use TTT on,as long as you get filled near the low you will make money.

Now I dont know about your account size,but if you want to maintain driving a Maybach,your mansion at the gated-community and all your friends down at the country.club you should not start with less than a 7 figure account size;)

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Mitsubishi,

 

Would you please quit polishing the turbo charged mini cooper long enough to send us some trading info on your buddy taylor that is his possible view for april 1. Then we can all do some spread gambling.:helloooo:

 

Did you have to race around on your little bicycle to find the nearest internet cafe to post this on?

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Just popping in for a moment. April 1, 2012 is a BUY day in Taylors scheme of things. I am looking to short, probally in the night session, around 1406. That is, I am looking to short a High made first per Taylors rules. If I get in and for some reason it trades UP then I will take a loss quickly and wait for it to tank out before shorting again. If it starts trading up and has no real decline then I will just stand aside and not take a Taylor trade. That said. I am looking for a decline and it probally will start tonight. Then again, it may not until the day session. Just have to wait and see. Naturally, I will also be looking for 1 to 3 point scalps as I have time to. Don't know when I'll have time to come back on this site but if possible I will try to recap 4-1-2012 trading.

 

Good Trading

 

Why?

 

 

Tough going short in a bull market.........looks like i should have held a bit longer.What was it Taylor said? when you are offered a decent profit you should take it.

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Tough going short in a bull market.........looks like i should have held a bit longer.What was it Taylor said? when you are offered a decent profit you should take it.
Well hello Mitsubishi,

 

Kudos to you! Congradulations! As Livermore said his sitting tight was where he made the big money. Sitting tight was also where he lost 3 fortunes. Sitting tight is a double edge sword that can cut sharply both ways. :)

 

Now onto some Taylor explanations for todays PA. Great Taylor plays today. As you should know on a buy day you can short and go long. The short was shorty after 3:20 a.m. central time for a grab of 6 points. Then as price reversed shortly after the day session got humming it was time to go long and hang on for the ride up. Because, as you mitsubishi said it is a bull market. The gap up on the open sunday was the market tipping its hand. I was looking for a decline first on 4-2 and got that in the night session. Buy days are great opportunities in Taylor type trading because it is one of the days you can short and go long depending on what price action does.

 

In addition, at least 3 very good long scalps were there. Just a great Taylor day.

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Mitt watch out for those bear traps.Sometimes they will take your toes. Have a great day. May I say a greater day as you have already had a great day!

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thanks for the explanation. looks like a losing game to me. one would be trading against their broker. they are gonna win.

 

In a sense, everyone trades against their broker. Brokers don't have your profitability at heart - their only concern is to generate commissions. As for spread-betting, it's no good for day-trading in my opinion, and for longer term traders it has pros and cons that just about even out.

 

If you trade futures/forex etc and make a hell of a lot of money and then the taxman comes knocking at your door wanting half . . . well maybe then you would start to see some of the advantages to spreadbetting.

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Hi Patuca

I like your post

Does this fire alarm set off every day?

 

It depends on the look-back period . . .

 

For a daily alarm, insert the 'FireAlarm' indicator on your chart (I also use an 9-period RSI, a 20-period Dry Powder Extinguisher, and the crossover of a 3SMA and a 12-point Sprinkler System), and adjust the 'alarm period' to 1.

 

Remember to use the session times of your local fire station :)

 

Bluehorseshoe

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In a sense, everyone trades against their broker. Brokers don't have your profitability at heart - their only concern is to generate commissions. As for spread-betting, it's no good for day-trading in my opinion, and for longer term traders it has pros and cons that just about even out.

 

If you trade futures/forex etc and make a hell of a lot of money and then the taxman comes knocking at your door wanting half . . . well maybe then you would start to see some of the advantages to spreadbetting.

are you saying no taxes have to be paid on spread betting?

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It depends on the look-back period . . .

 

For a daily alarm, insert the 'FireAlarm' indicator on your chart (I also use an 9-period RSI, a 20-period Dry Powder Extinguisher, and the crossover of a 3SMA and a 12-point Sprinkler System), and adjust the 'alarm period' to 1.

 

Remember to use the session times of your local fire station :)

 

Bluehorseshoe

thats a good post LOL:haha:

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Did you have to race around on your little bicycle to find the nearest internet cafe to post this on?
mitubishi i must say you nailed my &ss to the wall on that one! no mercy man...no mercy. well I gotta say I deserved it after my emini cooper post. I laughed at that post. told this gal and she laughed. that was a great response to my emini cooper polishing fiasco post.

 

but to answer your question...no i took the tricycle as it was to dangerous today with a bicycle...

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mitubishi i must say you nailed my &ss to the wall on that one! no mercy man...no mercy. well I gotta say I deserved it after my emini cooper post. I laughed at that post. told this gal and she laughed. that was a great response to my emini cooper polishing fiasco post.

 

but to answer your question...no i took the tricycle as it was to dangerous today with a bicycle...

 

Always good to have a plan B...i assume you take similar precautions in the market?

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Always good to have a plan B...i assume you take similar precautions in the market?
absolutley. smaller positions..cutting losses...not trading..what about you? all in for the big gamble? all in long..all in short?

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Well hello Mitsubishi,

 

Kudos to you! Congradulations! As Livermore said his sitting tight was where he made the big money. Sitting tight was also where he lost 3 fortunes. Sitting tight is a double edge sword that can cut sharply both ways. :)

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True enough.Every lesson in the market costs you money.Unfortunately i was a slow learner,so 6 times not 3......very tiny fortunes:(

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