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Tradestation has given me notice that they won't be supporting my favorite version of their software, the old version 8.7 (later versions suck). So, I'm considering where to go, and I heard somewhere that I might be able to import my Tradestation indicators into Multicharts. Is this true? If anyone knows, please gimme some advice here. How similar is Multicharts to Tradestation? Are there any major disadvantages to Multicharts?

Thanks,

Tasuki

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Tradestation has given me notice that they won't be supporting my favorite version of their software, the old version 8.7 (later versions suck). So, I'm considering where to go, and I heard somewhere that I might be able to import my Tradestation indicators into Multicharts. Is this true? If anyone knows, please gimme some advice here. How similar is Multicharts to Tradestation? Are there any major disadvantages to Multicharts?

Thanks,

Tasuki

 

you can import most of the Tradestation indicators into MultiCharts.

 

"most" means not 100%.

 

it is easier to import TS indicators into MC than the other way around,

because MC has added a host of new keywords that are not available in TS.

eg. sub-minute analysis keywords.

 

some indicators might need minor adjustments.

eg. if the indicator has multiple plots, MC would place plot1 at the lowest layer, while TS would place plot1 at the highest layer.

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Tradestation has given me notice that they won't be supporting my favorite version of their software, the old version 8.7 (later versions suck). So, I'm considering where to go, and I heard somewhere that I might be able to import my Tradestation indicators into Multicharts. Is this true? If anyone knows, please gimme some advice here. How similar is Multicharts to Tradestation? Are there any major disadvantages to Multicharts?

Thanks,

Tasuki

 

The newer versions of TS include very useful object oriented programming. I am very curious to know what you can do in 8.7 that you can not do in 9.1, or what 8.7 does different from 9.1.

 

The new versions are faster, have made moves towards multi-threading and as far as I know contain all the features of the older versions plus some powerful new features - could you please be more specific in why you say the newer versions "suck."

 

UB

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The newer versions of TS include very useful object oriented programming. I am very curious to know what you can do in 8.7 that you can not do in 9.1, or what 8.7 does different from 9.1.

 

The new versions are faster, have made moves towards multi-threading and as far as I know contain all the features of the older versions plus some powerful new features - could you please be more specific in why you say the newer versions "suck."

 

UB

 

UB,

 

The problem with the newer versions of TS is that they try to be all things to all people. There's a stock scanner which I don't need, and an options platform I don't need, and a Forex platform I don't need, and even an order entry form I don't need [smart scalpers never use TS for order entry], and heaven knows what other crap they've tacked onto their already-massive program. With all of these "appendages" to their charting software, it's quite understandable that their charting software crashes alot. Admittedly, with 12 monitors, 15 workspaces, dozens of charts and more than a hundred indicators, I do push Tradestation more than most people. So, if TS works for you, then great---you're not pushing it, but the older version, 8.7, works just fine, no matter how hard you push it. I'm not the only one---lots of people have complained about the later versions of Tradestation.

Here's a link:

https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Topic_ID=98851&PAGE=3򔫺

Not sure if you can use that link, but if you can, it takes you to a thread within Tradestation's forum in which users are complaining about TS 8.8 (and 9.0 and 9.1) crashing so hard that it locks up their computer. As a result, Tradestation engineers created a "killscript" (a batch file) to manually shut down Tradestation. That is a stupid way to put a bandaid over the problem (and the killscript doesn't actually work, either). What they SHOULD have done is to take the advice of many users (myself included) and create multiple versions of the software, including one version for futures traders which is "stripped down", meaning that the scanner, the options garbage, the forex garbage and all that nonsense is removed. If Tradestation were really on the ball, they'd create customized versions for options traders, forex traders, stock traders, and futures traders, but they're not that bright, apparently.

 

So, the bottom line is that the newer versions, anything beyond 8.7, suck because they crash, and crash hard. When 9.1 came out, I thought maybe they'd finally gotten their act together, so I installed it, only to find that it crashed hard (froze my computer) within 2 days of using it. I called tech support, and the poor, exhausted tech on the phone said that he'd received so many complaints about 9.1 that he recommended just deleting it and going back to 8.7. I did so, and about a week later I got this message that Tradestation was discontinuing 8.7, hence my desire to find a different charting package.

 

For the record, multi-threading would be a good thing if they could actually get it to work. For the record, computer programming in general is a gimic that is useful only for people who don't know how to trade. It will waste your time and it won't help you make money if you don't already know how to trade. It will, however, provide thousands of hours of programming fun, if that's what you really like to do.

 

Tasuki

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you can import most of the Tradestation indicators into MultiCharts.

 

"most" means not 100%.

 

it is easier to import TS indicators into MC than the other way around,

because MC has added a host of new keywords that are not available in TS.

eg. sub-minute analysis keywords.

 

some indicators might need minor adjustments.

eg. if the indicator has multiple plots, MC would place plot1 at the lowest layer, while TS would place plot1 at the highest layer.

 

 

Thanks, Tams. Sounds "do-able". My indicators are just the basic ones, slightly tweaked but not re-programmed.

The best part of Tradestation (and the reason I've stayed with them this long) is because their architecture of charts within workspaces within desktops, is miles ahead of other charting packages.

*Does Multicharts have a similar architecture?*

Tx,

Tasuki

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Thanks, Tams. Sounds "do-able". My indicators are just the basic ones, slightly tweaked but not re-programmed.

The best part of Tradestation (and the reason I've stayed with them this long) is because their architecture of charts within workspaces within desktops, is miles ahead of other charting packages.

*Does Multicharts have a similar architecture?*

Tx,

Tasuki

 

MC pretty well started as a copy of TS, but have evolved. The charts within workspaces are the same. You can download a 30 days free trial to test out your indicators.

 

You will find MC runs a bit faster, because it uses all the cores of a multi-core CPU, while TS is only multi-threaded.

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I am using TS9.0 with Windows 7, 64 and have experienced none of the "crash" issues you mention. I am a TS add-on developer and easy language specialist, our apps make great demands on TS and we have none of the difficulties you mention.

 

Multi-charts is a TS knock-off done by some of the same Russian developers that worked on TS. They have no object orientated programming without which system automation is primitive at best.

 

The new TS Order, Price Series and Position objects are the first to make a FIX like protocol available to retail traders.

 

All that is not to mention the data. TS offers 6 mos of tick data and decades of data in 1 minute and up time frames which is more than any vendor that supplies MC and the data is cleaner.

 

But then again all of that means nothing when your position is as stated below that programming/software is "in general a gimic."

 

UB,............For the record, computer programming in general is a gimic that is useful only for people who don't know how to trade. ...........

Tasuki

 

LOL - Tell that to those at Goldman and at Renaissance

 

We disagree and believe that "Success in the markets is not about instinct, divine inspiration or spontaneous intellectual combustion. It is about intelligent data processing, sound method and the management of risk and resource that is both effective and adaptive to change."

 

 

 

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The latest version of Tradestation uses all cores of a multi-core cpu. It's data transmission protocal has been totaly rewritten and it rocks.

 

Onesmith, if it's so good, how come their tech support is (according to them) inundated with crash reports on 9.1?

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I don't have any information to answer your question in it's specfic sense as it relates to tradestation. My perception of the typical users hardware and software complaints, in general, and unrelated to tradestation ... is the typical person who needs tech support is either easily hepled and easily satisfied or there's no way they can ever be helped or ever be satisfied. And the loudest users are those that are dissatisfied.

 

Onesmith, if it's so good, how come their tech support is (according to them) inundated with crash reports on 9.1?

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The latest version of Tradestation uses all cores of a multi-core cpu.

 

according to their news release, the new TS version is multi-threaded, but not yet multi-cored.

The new multi-thread would make TS run a bit faster than the previous non-multi-thread version.

 

I might be wrong, after all, multi-core is not new, they should have this done a long time ago.

 

I know people have tested it side by side with MultiCharts, and it is still slower than MultiCharts.

You can take a screen shot of the taskmanager, it will show you whether TS is running multi-core or not.

 

 

 

 

It's data transmission protocal has been totaly rewritten and it rocks.

 

Why would they want to do that ???? Tradestation has the better data management system of all the charting software on the market.

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The new version is multi-cored.

 

The data transmission changes are seamless in that it didn't require any effort on my part because it functions the same as previous versions but I know it's an extensive change over what it was. It's awesome. My use of the word protocol wasn't intended to mean there were any changes in the manner in which users access data but rather in the technology that sends and receives the data.

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UB,

 

The problem with the newer versions of TS is that they try to be all things to all people. There's a stock scanner which I don't need, and an options platform I don't need, and a Forex platform I don't need, and even an order entry form I don't need [smart scalpers never use TS for order entry], and heaven knows what other crap they've tacked onto their already-massive program. With all of these "appendages" to their charting software, it's quite understandable that their charting software crashes alot. Admittedly, with 12 monitors, 15 workspaces, dozens of charts and more than a hundred indicators, I do push Tradestation more than most people.

 

Tasuki

 

You are incorrect in your assessment. I am a far heavier user of TradeStation than you are judging by your stated usage. And My Analysis Techniques usage tax TS to the limits. The key is the computing platform that you're using.

 

If you're truly serious about trading then you'll invest in the best possible platform. The new TS 9.1 takes advantage of it and is quite stable. My minimum system has 16 cores with 16 GB Ram, the fastest processor available with Solid State drives and RAID backup.

 

Admittedly TS 9.1 isn't all it could be, but it is a better charting and automated systems engine than anything else out there in its price class.

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The new version is multi-cored.

 

The data transmission changes are seamless in that it didn't require any effort on my part because it functions the same as previous versions but I know it's an extensive change over what it was. It's awesome. My use of the word protocol wasn't intended to mean there were any changes in the manner in which users access data but rather in the technology that sends and receives the data.

 

Lets clarify this comment as it isn't 100% accurate.

 

TradeStation's charts support multiple cores which allow the workload of each chart to be off loaded on to different cores in a round robin fashion.

 

...but where most people seem to be truly salivating for multicore functionality is in backtesting, and this currently is not multicore.

 

So if you are running 12 monitors and 15 workspaces like the guy that started this thread then the newer version of TS with multicore support probably is of some benefit.

 

But if you are looking to back test all kinds of wild concepts with your new 8 core, Overclocked, Liquid Nitrogen cooled system w/ it's 24GB of Ram & 1TB Raid 0 SSD configuration ...you may be disappointed to see 1 core pegged in your task manager and the other 7 floating around basically at idle.

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Aston01, thank you for correcting that.

 

Tams, he's right about the backtesting still being limited to a single core.

 

 

Lets clarify this comment as it isn't 100% accurate.

 

TradeStation's charts support multiple cores which allow the workload of each chart to be off loaded on to different cores in a round robin fashion.

 

...but where most people seem to be truly salivating for multicore functionality is in backtesting, and this currently is not multicore.

 

So if you are running 12 monitors and 15 workspaces like the guy that started this thread then the newer version of TS with multicore support probably is of some benefit.

 

But if you are looking to back test all kinds of wild concepts with your new 8 core, Overclocked, Liquid Nitrogen cooled system w/ it's 24GB of Ram & 1TB Raid 0 SSD configuration ...you may be disappointed to see 1 core pegged in your task manager and the other 7 floating around basically at idle.

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About three years ago, I considered a move to MultiCharts from Tradestation. Worse experiment I ever made. What a huge gigantic failure. First off, only about 25% of my custom indicators imported. Those with functions had a 100% failure rate, and those without functions was a crap shoot with about 50/50 probability of successful transfer.

 

I kept on trying to work with MultiCharts, but was sorely disappointed in multiple ways. The screen graphics and GUI totally sucked. Other problems arose, but I finally threw in the towel after trying to make it work for about a month.

 

I also resisted the move to Tradestion 9, but glad I finally made the move. Like the other posts pointed out, multithreading has greatly improved. It's fast and stable. I'm running several hundred charts at the same time so I notice these things. I've been with Tradestation since the late 80's and we always stayed one or two releases behind the latest for stability.

 

Anyway, I'm very happy with Tradestation 9. It has a few quarks, but easily over looked or ignored. Tradestation has always had lots of modules, optionstation, radarscreen, etc etc, so I don't understand your beef at this point with all the extras.

 

IMHO, Tradestation will always be the superior platform... by far!!

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About three years ago, I considered a move to MultiCharts from Tradestation. Worse experiment I ever made. What a huge gigantic failure. First off, only about 25% of my custom indicators imported. Those with functions had a 100% failure rate, and those without functions was a crap shoot with about 50/50 probability of successful transfer.

 

I kept on trying to work with MultiCharts, but was sorely disappointed in multiple ways. The screen graphics and GUI totally sucked. Other problems arose, but I finally threw in the towel after trying to make it work for about a month.

 

I also resisted the move to Tradestion 9, but glad I finally made the move. Like the other posts pointed out, multithreading has greatly improved. It's fast and stable. I'm running several hundred charts at the same time so I notice these things. I've been with Tradestation since the late 80's and we always stayed one or two releases behind the latest for stability.

 

Anyway, I'm very happy with Tradestation 9. It has a few quarks, but easily over looked or ignored. Tradestation has always had lots of modules, optionstation, radarscreen, etc etc, so I don't understand your beef at this point with all the extras.

 

IMHO, Tradestation will always be the superior platform... by far!!

 

Thanks, smmatrix,

Now this is news I can use. Sadly, I was hoping to make the move to Multicharts seamlessly, but now I'll have to investigate Multicharts more carefully. Drat it, but thanks for the heads up.

With all the negative feedback I've heard about Tradestation from my trader friends who are users (and mostly former users), I am extremely surprised by the positive comments that we've seen in this thread. Almost makes me wonder if the glowing reviews aren't being posted by TS employees or moles within Traders Lab. Sorry guys if this sounds offensive, but honestly, in my 13+ years of trading I have never heard so many people praise Tradestation so unequivocally. Just a bit odd, and it makes me scratch my head in wonder.

Tasuki

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Thanks, smmatrix,

...Sorry guys if this sounds offensive, but honestly, in my 13+ years of trading I have never heard so many people praise Tradestation so unequivocally. Just a bit odd, and it makes me scratch my head in wonder.

Tasuki

 

It is not unusual for people who cannot turn a profit (losers) to find anything but themselves as the underlying reason for their problems.

 

And I'm sure I'll get blasted for this statement, but the undeniable fact is that 90% of ALL traders lose, 5% break even, and 5% make money. That includes everyone on this board...you know who you are.

 

I used to be a loser and would try to blame everything other than my own ignorance, lack of preparation, no quantifiable or definable edge, and poor discipline. So I speak from experience.

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Thanks, smmatrix,

Now this is news I can use. Sadly, I was hoping to make the move to Multicharts seamlessly, but now I'll have to investigate Multicharts more carefully. Drat it, but thanks for the heads up.

With all the negative feedback I've heard about Tradestation from my trader friends who are users (and mostly former users), I am extremely surprised by the positive comments that we've seen in this thread. Almost makes me wonder if the glowing reviews aren't being posted by TS employees or moles within Traders Lab. Sorry guys if this sounds offensive, but honestly, in my 13+ years of trading I have never heard so many people praise Tradestation so unequivocally. Just a bit odd, and it makes me scratch my head in wonder.

Tasuki

 

Seriously, Tradestation is a superior platform. Personally, I have never liked their brokerage and that may be the complaints you're hearing, because I have never heard anyone complain about Tradestation charting. I have seen and used other platforms such as eSignal, ThinkorSwim, Multicharts, Sierra Charts and none of those hold a candle Tradestations abilities. For example, when I write a new indicator, I often write a a script with it and test probabilities over 10 years of 1-min candles. I believe that is about 11 million total candles. What other platform will allow me to write, test my code to this degree? I'm a statistical trader, so these numbers are important for the way I trade.

 

But, besides backtesting capability, just the look and feel of the Tradestation platform really feels like real trading to me. I'm sorry, but that other stuff, java based charts seems toy'ish to me, but this is probably because I've used the platform since 1989.

 

Regarding Tradestation moles, I don't think you'll find any here. LOL. Tradestation does not allow any of its sales reps to work the forums.

 

Best of trading success to you!

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Seriously, Tradestation is a superior platform. Personally, I have never liked their brokerage and that may be the complaints you're hearing, because I have never heard anyone complain about Tradestation charting. I have seen and used other platforms such as eSignal, ThinkorSwim, Multicharts, Sierra Charts and none of those hold a candle Tradestations abilities...

Best of trading success to you!

 

I too am a statistical trader, using a mean reversion strategy trading futures with Statistical Arbitrage, and I have also tried the same platform as you. I'm compelled to support the other platforms, like Sierra Charts, and ToS, because members of my Trade Room have committed to their platform. But the support I can offer is limited due to the inferior charting and indicator support compared to TS.

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I run both TS and MC, as well as a few other platforms. I was a user of TS since the very early days of the 1990's.

 

MC is much, much faster than TS in Optimisation. TS has historical data, MC needs 3rd party historical data. The newest 64bit MC allows almost unlimited ticks historically. The amount of RAM you have is your limit. I get load failures on TS with complex strategies and trying to optimise over lots of tick data.

 

I predominantly use MC for my trading.

 

Each has pluses and minuses so choosing what features are dealbrakers for you will help your choice.

 

EL

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MC is much, much faster than TS in Optimisation. TS has historical data, MC needs 3rd party historical data. The newest 64bit MC allows almost unlimited ticks historically. The amount of RAM you have is your limit. I get load failures on TS with complex strategies and trying to optimise over lots of tick data.

EL

 

As I said earlier, you need to have the proper equipment for the job. My minimum workstation has 16 cores (Westmere processor), 16 GB of RAM and 512 GB SSD drives, with 2 terabyte RAID backup. My top end system has 24 virtual cores, liquid cooled, 32 GB RAM SSD and large RAID drives connected via Thunderbolt.

 

By the way, I'm all Macintosh and run TradeStation on Windows 7 using both Parallels and VM Ware. I also do parallel processing with XGrid and can create a compute environment (essentially a supercomputer) with as much resources as I need for specialty tasks.

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Seriously, Tradestation is a superior platform. Personally, I have never liked their brokerage and that may be the complaints you're hearing, because I have never heard anyone complain about Tradestation charting. I have seen and used other platforms such as eSignal, ThinkorSwim, Multicharts, Sierra Charts and none of those hold a candle Tradestations abilities. Best of trading success to you!

 

smmatrix,

While I'm not familiar with Multicharts, the other charting packages you mentioned are just about the bottom of the barrel. No surprise that TS is better. However, had you tried Ninjatrader, Ensign, Neoticker, Realtick, or InvestorRT, you might have had a better experience. In all those cases, however, the move from TS would require a complete re-write of all my indicators, which is why I was inquiring in this thread about Multicharts.

 

If you're a stat trader, you should maybe check out Neoticker. It's not for people like me, but it might be right up your alley. If you listen to them, their backtesting totally beats the hell out of TS, but I can't speak from personal experience. But seriously, you should check out Neoticker.

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I run both TS and MC, as well as a few other platforms. I was a user of TS since the very early days of the 1990's.

 

MC is much, much faster than TS in Optimisation. TS has historical data, MC needs 3rd party historical data. The newest 64bit MC allows almost unlimited ticks historically. The amount of RAM you have is your limit. I get load failures on TS with complex strategies and trying to optimise over lots of tick data.

 

I predominantly use MC for my trading.

 

Each has pluses and minuses so choosing what features are dealbrakers for you will help your choice.

 

EL

 

EL, Finally, somebody who likes MC steps up to the plate. Many thanks for your contribution to the thread. May I ask, what data feed do you recommend for Multicharts?Thanks again!

Tasuki

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There are quite a few things I really do like with Tradestation, but like anything else if you use something frequently enough there are always a couple of things you would like improvement on.

 

1.) Multicore back testing - This can be just an annoying bottle neck that becomes blatantly obvious even if you are testing anything more than a moving average cross on tick data from a very limited time frame.

 

2.) Graphics - Obviously this doesn't effect the functionality which is the main reason for using TS to begin with, but after trialing the new version of eSignal for a month I have to say at first glance I thought I was taking a set backwards in some respects moving to TS. I know there a lot of hard core traders and programmer types out there that don't want to waste the resources on fancy graphics and don't think it matters. I am from the school of thought that thinks presentation is what draws you in and makes you feel comfortable ...functionality is what makes you continue to hang around. In that regard TS is a little behind the ball with their Windows 98 graphic styling .

 

3.) Broker options - There are a lot of positives about using TS as a broker, but with no volume breaks and over simplified commissions unlike IB and some of the other brokers out there it can get a bit annoying .

 

Say I get a wild hair and decide I want to buy some OTM option contacts that are going for $.05 ($5 total) . With TS my commission each way successful or not is $1 ...on that $5 I am paying 40% commission before slippage. IB for example charges a $1 minimum, but after that the commission is $.25 per contract($.15 if you are regularly doing a lot of volume)

To sum it up

 

TradeStation

$5 x 10 (Contracts) = $50

+

$1 Commission x 20 (Round trip commission) = $20

 

= 40% commission (requires a 67% increase just to cover the commission)

 

 

Interactive Brokers

$5 x 10 (Contracts) = $50

+

$.25 Commission x 20 (Round trip commission) = $5

 

= 10% commission ( $3 or 6% if your doing large volume) which only requires an 11% increase to cover

 

 

Everyone is always concerned about draw downs, but such a substantial cost before slippage can really limit certain types of transactions I would consider doing through TS. I may be ignorant at the beginning and not think much of it, but when you start doing volume it almost forces you to leave TS for some things...which kind of makes wonder why they would want to drive you to use someone else as opposed to stay with their monopoly. From this aspect Multicharts does get a thumbs up over TS.

 

BTW - I know there are a couple of offerings out there like TWSLink that let you utilize other brokers from within TS, but I haven't run across anything yet that seems to be kept up to date enough to feel secure that it is going to work flawlessly in the heat of the moment when you have a large position that you don't want any errors with. If someone has run across something that works well please let me know I would love to find a solution.

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    • Date: 16th April 2024. Market News – Stocks and currencies sell off; USD up. Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Stocks and currencies sell off, while the US Dollar picks up haven flows. Treasuries yields spiked again to fresh 2024 peaks before paring losses into the close, post, the stronger than expected retail sales eliciting a broad sell off in the markets. Rates surged as the data pushed rate cut bets further into the future with July now less than a 50-50 chance. Wall Street finished with steep declines led by tech. Stocks opened in the green on a relief trade after Israel repulsed the well advertised attack from Iran on Sunday. But equities turned sharply lower and extended last week’s declines amid the rise in yields. Investor concerns were intensified as Israel threatened retaliation. There’s growing anxiety over earnings even after a big beat from Goldman Sachs. UK labor market data was mixed, as the ILO unemployment rate unexpectedly lifted, while wage growth came in higher than anticipated – The data suggests that the labor market is catching up with the recession. Mixed messages then for the BoE. China grew by 5.3% in Q1 however the numbers are causing a lot of doubts over sustainability of this growth. The bounce came in the first 2 months of the year. In March, growth in retail sales slumped and industrial output decelerated below forecasts, suggesting challenges on the horizon. Today: Germany ZEW, US housing starts & industrial production, Fed Vice Chair Philip Jefferson speech, BOE Bailey speech & IMF outlook. Earnings releases: Morgan Stanley and Bank of America. Financial Markets Performance:   The US Dollar rallied to 106.19 after testing 106.25, gaining against JPY and rising to 154.23, despite intervention risk. Yen traders started to see the 160 mark as the next Resistance level. Gold surged 1.76% to $2386 per ounce amid geopolitical risks and Chinese buying, even as the USD firmed and yields climbed. USOIL is flat at $85 per barrel. Market Trends:   Breaks of key technical levels exacerbated the sell off. Tech was the big loser with the NASDAQ plunging -1.79% to 15,885 while the S&P500 dropped -1.20% to 5061, with the Dow sliding -0.65% to 37,735. The S&P had the biggest 2-day sell off since March 2023. Nikkei and ASX lost -1.9% and -1.8% respectively, and the Hang Seng is down -2.1%. European bourses are down more than -1% and US futures are also in the red. CTA selling tsunami: “Just a few points lower CTAs will for the first time this year start selling in size, to add insult to injury, we are breaking major trend-lines in equities and the gamma stabilizer is totally gone.” Short term CTA threshold levels are kicking in big time according to GS. Medium term is 4873 (most important) while the long term level is at 4605. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • Date: 15th April 2024. Market News – Negative Reversion; Safe Havens Rally. Trading Leveraged Products is risky Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Markets weigh risk of retaliation cycle in Middle East. Initially the retaliatory strike from Iran on Israel fostered a haven bid, into bonds, gold and other haven assets, as it threatens a wider regional conflict. However, this morning, Oil and Asian equity markets were muted as traders shrugged off fears of a war escalation in the Middle East. Iran said “the matter can be deemed concluded”, and President Joe Biden has called on Israel to exercise restraint following Iran’s drone and missile strike, as part of Washington’s efforts to ease tensions in the Middle East and minimize the likelihood of a widespread regional conflict. New US and UK sanctions banned deliveries of Russian supplies, i.e. key industrial metals, produced after midnight on Friday. Aluminum jumped 9.4%, nickel rose 8.8%, suggesting brokers are bracing for major supply chain disruption. Financial Markets Performance:   The USDIndex fell back from highs over 106 to currently 105.70. The Yen dip against USD to 153.85. USOIL settled lower at 84.50 per barrel and Gold is trading below session highs at currently $2357.92 per ounce. Copper, more liquid and driven by the global economy over recent weeks, was more subdued this morning. Currently at $4.3180. Market Trends:   Asian stock markets traded mixed, but European and US futures are slightly higher after a tough session on Friday and yields have picked up. Mainland China bourses outperformed overnight, after Beijing offered renewed regulatory support. The PBOC meanwhile left the 1-year MLF rate unchanged, while once again draining funds from the system. Nikkei slipped 1% to 39,114.19. On Friday, NASDAQ slumped -1.62% to 16,175, unwinding most of Thursday’s 1.68% jump to a new all-time high at 16,442. The S&P500 fell -1.46% and the Dow dropped 1.24%. Declines were broadbased with all 11 sectors of the S&P finishing in the red. JPMorgan Chase sank 6.5% despite reporting stronger profit in Q1. The nation’s largest bank gave a forecast for a key source of income this year that fell below Wall Street’s estimate, calling for only modest growth. Apple shipments drop by 10% in Q1. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • The morning of my last post I happened to glance over to the side and saw “...angst over the FOMC’s rate trajectory triggered a flight to safety, hence boosting the haven demand. “   http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/topic/21621-hfmarkets-hfmcom-market-analysis-services/page/17/?tab=comments#comment-228522   I reacted, but didn’t take time to  respond then... will now --- HFBlogNews, I don’t know if you are simply aggregating the chosen narratives for the day or if it’s your own reporting... either way - “flight to safety”????  haven ?????  Re: “safety  - ”Those ‘solid rocks’ are getting so fragile a hit from a dandelion blowball might shatter them... like now nobody wants to buy longer term new issues at these rates...yet the financial media still follows the scripts... The imagery they pound day in and day out makes it look like the Fed knows what they’re doing to help ‘us’... They do know what they’re doing - but it certainly is not to help ‘us’... and it is not to ‘control’ inflation... And at some point in the not too distant future, the interest due will eat a huge portion of the ‘revenue’ Re: “haven” The defaults are coming ...  The US will not be the first to default... but it will certainly not be the very last to default !! ...Enough casual anti-white racism for the day  ... just sayin’
    • Date: 12th April 2024. Producer Inflation On The Rise, But Will Earnings Hold Demand Steady?     Producer inflation rose slightly less than previous expectations, but the annual figure continues to rise. The annual PPI rose to 2.1% and the Core PPI rose to 2.4%. The NASDAQ and SNP500 end the day higher, but the Dow Jones continues to struggle. This morning earnings kick off with the banking sector including JP Morgan, BlackRock and Wells Fargo. All 3 stocks trade higher during pre-trading hours. The Euro trades lower against all currencies despite the ECB’s attempt to establish a hawkish tone. USA100 – The NASDAQ Climbs Higher, But Is the Growth Sustainable? The NASDAQ was the only index which did not witness a significant decline at the opening of the US session. In addition to this, the USA100 is the only index which is witnessing indications of a bullish market. The price has crossed onto a higher high breaking the resistance level at $18,269. The index is also trading above the 75-Bar EMA and at the 65.00 level on the RSI which signals buyers are controlling the market. However, a similar large bullish impulse wave was also formed on the 3rd and 5th of the month and was followed by a correction. Therefore, investors need to be cautious of a bearish breakout which may signal a correction back to the 75-bar EMA (18,165). The medium-term growth and its sustainability will depend on the upcoming earnings data.   Bond yields declined during this morning’s Asian session by 18 points, which is positive for the stock market. However, even with the decline, bond yields remain significantly higher than Monday’s opening yield. This week the 10-year bond yield rose from 4.424 to 4.558, which is a concern. If bond yields again start to rise, the stock market potentially can again become pressured. 25% of the NASDAQ ended the day lower and 75% higher. This gives a clear indication of the sentiment towards the technology sector and reassures traders about the price movement. Another positive was all of the top 12 influential stocks rose in value. Apple, NVIDIA and Broadcom saw the strongest gains, all rising more than 4%. Producer inflation read slightly lower than expectations, however, the index continues to rise. The Producer Price Index rose from 1.6% to 2.1% and the Core PPI from 2.1% to 2.4%. Therefore, it is not indicating inflation will become easier to tackle in the upcoming months. For this reason, investors should note that inflation and the monetary policy is still a risk and can trigger strong bearish impulse waves. EURUSD – The Euro Declines Against Major Currencies The European Central Bank is attempting to concentrate on the positive factors and give no indications of when the committee may opt to cut rates. For example, President Lagarde advises “sales figures” remain stable, but the issue remains they are stably low. Officials said the decline in prices generally confirms medium-term forecasts and is ensured by a decrease in the cost of food and goods. Most experts continue to believe that the first reduction in interest rates will happen in June, and there may be three or four in total during the year. Due to this, the Euro is declining against all currencies including the Pound, Yen and Swiss Franc. The US Dollar Index on the other hand trades 0.39% higher and is almost trading at a 23-week high. Due to this momentum, the price of the exchange continues to indicate a decline in favor of the US Dollar.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Michalis Efthymiou Market Analyst HMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • $MSFT Microsoft stock top of range breakout above 433.1, https://stockconsultant.com/?MSFT
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