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UPdate: I "expect" to be stopped out on this trade..my stop is easy $... the key is the 97.00 IMHO... If that holds then I may go long again but ...... :2c:

 

12:28cst..Update to update: I am flat - took seveal ticks out...

 

 

I always look to position on counter-rotations during lunch and my B/E stop was in the way of the rotation so I am out..while currently there is no reason to exit other than the fact we didn't take the HOD out & based on my view of auction theory the stops are the magnet to do business... so rotation is next, IMHO... Of course I do run the risk this will hold but it seems very low probability I "suspect" 98.00 area is easy $... Let's see...

 

I have 1403.50 on my 03/14/07 profile. That high looks pretty poor and looks like it could be set up to blast through at some point. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow etc. etc.

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Thanks for the number... I am flat & thinking I just might call it a day... I was thinking of a short but this thing is not worth it IMHO.. The channel is up, trend up, etc... "However" the way this is setting up in this chop it could break down - also the MP is very thinck up in the top part... so it is not a good trade so far...

 

As bullish as this market is, it is Friday and the market is long... if the buyers are taking a long weekend then the sellers may show up this afternoon...

 

I think "punt" is in order...

 

On days like this I like to think I can scalp but there is not enough range... In the old days I would picture 2 guys in the S&P pit hitting a whiffle ball across an empty pit when it traded like this...

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:haha: Don't you mean "pint"?

 

Several, at least...

 

I have decided to get a new rubber stamp made so I can put this on my forehead..

 

"Trade The Trade, NOT the $." My long was at 97.75... the key number was/is 97.00 for this up move to fsil..so using the wisdom of over 30 yrs of this I pulled my stop to B/E @ 97.75, no reason... and then bailed for several ticks... even B/E stop wasn't taken as of 1:17cst. Maybe those ticks are worth a pint for both of us...

 

Moral of the Story: "Trade The Trade, NOT the $." I hate when the Hyde takes over for Dr. Jeckal... :crap:

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Gosu: I read one of your posts on the forum that you exit: All in/All out and do not believe in scaling.

 

Is that still true for you or have you changed what you do on managing your trade?

 

I basically trade 2 exits: 1 is short term high probability targets - usually where stops should be clustered on the other side and then a runner for something more signifigent.

 

The issue is when I take a loss on that full position including runner vs just taking it all out at the high probability target do I come out ahead? DO I really get anything over time with the runner?

 

Steve: Says the runner adds almost 50% to his net so it is a bit of a conundrum for me...

 

Since I am descretionary and vary the number of contracts I trade it is difficult for me to analyze..

 

Have you looked at that by any chance?

 

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Several, at least...

 

I have decided to get a new rubber stamp made so I can put this on my forehead..

 

"Trade The Trade, NOT the $." My long was at 97.75... the key number was/is 97.00 for this up move to fsil..so using the wisdom of over 30 yrs of this I pulled my stop to B/E @ 97.75, no reason... and then bailed for several ticks... even B/E stop wasn't taken as of 1:17cst. Maybe those ticks are worth a pint for both of us...

 

Moral of the Story: "Trade The Trade, NOT the $." I hate when the Hyde takes over for Dr. Jeckal... :crap:

 

Yeah definitely. Though I'd point out that when the market trades like this, it kind of hynotically induces Mr Hyde if you're not careful!

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Yeah definitely. Though I'd point out that when the market trades like this, it kind of hynotically induces Mr Hyde if you're not careful!

 

Yes..It is frustrating to still make these kinds of errors... When my brain drifts...Hyde takes over..It is like the non-trading side of the brain takes over...

 

"Don't lose $."

"Grab what you have"

"Don't let it turn into a loser (3 Tic risk)"

"You're going to get stopped anyway - just get out... blah,blah..."

 

Does this sound familiar? The problem with this is many times I do get out and the trade goes South..this is where descretion is a challange...consistent inconsistency..

 

That, amoung other reasons is why Hyde shows up..I do not have a mechanical rule for this but Market Structure should trump everything else...

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First off I'd say accept how you are then deal with it. You are human just like the rest of us. Everyone gets tired, bored etc and ends up making mistakes.

 

As much as missing out is not great, what matters is what happens in the trade not what happens after. Example. Say today you are long around 96, you want a run on 1400's and it stops there. You might then have got out lower when it didn't break above. You might also be kicking yourself thinking that you could have got the nearer 1400's if you'd just held on to it for the move back up. But what if it broke down? What if when it got to 1400's you were greedy then it didn't break? It makes no difference what happens after. Trade your plan. That's the important thing.

 

Maybe here you didn't execute well, but no matter what anyone says you can't always trade perfectly. It's done, move on. Next trade please :2c:

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The issue here is "We know we don't know." That is at least how I try to rationalize risk..my job is to take it at the right time..

 

The other part of my job is to manage risk, the trade and the exit... This is really the difficult part of the business...

 

One of the things I have never reconciled is whether to use market structure for being wrong or just exit when the trade drys up like it has today.. However the market structure for the upside is still intact as of 2p cst... so eventhough it looks like paint drying there is nothing structuarlly wrong with being long - other than the double top at HOD which seems like it might be taken out... if so 1402.00 - 1405.00 potential...who knows...

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Here's something to do for anyone who fancies it(now or another time). What is the average max move away from the VPOC the following day when a more than say 100,000 contracts are traded at the VPOC?

 

:helloooo: YIkes: I hope YOU know the answer...

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The issue here is "We know we don't know." That is at least how I try to rationalize risk..my job is to take it at the right time..

 

The other part of my job is to manage risk, the trade and the exit... This is really the difficult part of the business...

 

One of the things I have never reconciled is whether to use market structure for being wrong or just exit when the trade drys up like it has today.. However the market structure for the upside is still intact as of 2p cst... so eventhough it looks like paint drying there is nothing structuarlly wrong with being long - other than the double top at HOD which seems like it might be taken out... if so 1402.00 - 1405.00 potential...who knows...

 

So true Tom. "We know we don't know". Gotta remember that after the event.

 

I don't know honestly what is best to use. I often use combo of microswing structure, volume profile levels, trend and activity(inc delta). I think overall though it's just important to not take a hit(or a big hit) when you're wrong. Good trades generally look after themselves. I would add though that a good trade isn't defined by one which gets onside. Hell, I've taken plenty on crap trades and lost a bundle on trades which initially go onside in the past.

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So true Tom. "We know we don't know". Gotta remember that after the event.

 

I don't know honestly what is best to use. I often use combo of microswing structure, volume profile levels, trend and activity(inc delta). I think overall though it's just important to not take a hit(or a big hit) when you're wrong. Good trades generally look after themselves. I would add though that a good trade isn't defined by one which gets onside. Hell, I've taken plenty on crap trades and lost a bundle on trades which initially go onside in the past.

 

I'm ok with losing $ for the right reasons..that's part of the business..it's all the human errors that creep in and take a whack at the P&L... over time it is very expensive...

 

When you look at todays market here is the question: Is it better to be out since it is crap no matter what happens or better to stay in and get stopped when the market structure breaks down? Today 97.00 is the sweet spot, IMHO...

 

If it breaks, psycologically I will be rewarded..if it rallys then I will be punished...either way I lose... Structure should triumph over $... but how many of us would hang out in this market with no OTF present..?

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I'm ok with losing $ for the right reasons..that's part of the business..it's all the human errors that creep in and take a whack at the P&L... over time it is very expensive...

 

When you look at todays market here is the question: Is it better to be out since it is crap no matter what happens or better to stay in and get stopped when the market structure breaks down? Today 97.00 is the sweet spot, IMHO...

 

If it breaks, psycologically I will be rewarded..if it rallys then I will be punished...either way I lose... Structure should triumph over $... but how many of us would hang out in this market with no OTF present..?

 

I stayed out of trading the market today as part of my trading plan. I never trade on options/ futures expiration day. Instead I just sat on hands and back tested some strats I have been working on. One of the traders I trade with made 18 pts today. He averages 20 pts a day. It was business as usual for him. I guess its personal choice. If you played mid to upper range of initial balance today you made money. Looking back at the price action, my set-ups would have taken 8 points with no heat today. I may change my rule and devote some capital for the next expiration.

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That's nice.. I try to just get the range and trade the meat I don't have the focus to trade the short rotations..I certianly see them but it is too intensive at this point, at least for me..

 

I got a short off this morning and a long on the way back up..after that I managed my last position and decided that was it for me..

 

If we had more range I would have done a few more but Monday isn't all that far away and often on OPX this is the kind of range we get...

 

Have a good wknd if I don't "see you."

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Today's open

 

This is the second test of 1400...and I expect it to have better odds of success....that is why I was waiting for the open today

 

My entry was confirmed by what I call (and have posted several times) an algorithmic reversal pattern...this is a low risk entry...you know you are wrong if it comes back to take out the entry by a tick or two....so the risk/reward is pretty good....at this point (about 6pm PST) we have aready tested 1402

 

By the way there was a second low risk entry at 1397.75....same basic configuration...and of course it was successfull as well....this is often the case when you have a trend move right off the Globex open...

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Today's open

 

This is the second test of 1400...and I expect it to have better odds of success....that is why I was waiting for the open today

 

My entry was confirmed by what I call (and have posted several times) an algorithmic reversal pattern...this is a low risk entry...you know you are wrong if it comes back to take out the entry by a tick or two....so the risk/reward is pretty good....at this point (about 6pm PST) we have aready tested 1402

 

By the way there was a second low risk entry at 1397.75....same basic configuration...and of course it was successfull as well....this is often the case when you have a trend move right off the Globex open...

 

I actually took a scalp off the long side when we held Fridays closing swing low... I was suprised it went further than I thought but after it broke out I thought it had more upside - 1405.00 area.

 

What is the reason for the sell-off?

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Potential IRT Memory Leak

 

Over the weekend I upgraded to ver 10.5.c3 and I had a memory leak issue.. which became apparent during playback.

 

Today I upgraded to ver 10.5.c4 which was just released.. I do not know if this ver fixed it or not since I won't do my playback review until after market...

 

Just FYI...

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Potential IRT Memory Leak

 

Over the weekend I upgraded to ver 10.5.c3 and I had a memory leak issue.. which became apparent during playback.

 

Today I upgraded to ver 10.5.c4 which was just released.. I do not know if this ver fixed it or not since I won't do my playback review until after market...

 

Just FYI...

 

Memory leak? What do you mean? You lost historical data?

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A memory leak is when the application uses up available memory and does not release it back... if you open your task manager you will see the memory being used by IRT and in mine it kept climbing.. IT set an alert off in IRT... When memory useage gets too high the app will slow down or crash... mine didn't get thqat far but it was headed in that direction....

 

They did a fix yesterday Sunday and did a new release this morning but I have no idea if it's just my configuration or something else...

 

It is only severe on playback and I have not checked it during realtime or to see if the release this morning fixed it...

 

I sent them a copy of my database to test..

 

just FYI..

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I did not use c3 long enough to notice, upgraded to c4 today as well. I did notice this though on one of the betas ... it went up to almost 500K, which it has never done before, so that sounds very plausible tom...

 

As for today, I shorted 1401 and covered 1399, as the offers just above yesterday's high held very strongly, but due to the low relative volume (74% so far) and general balance I'm seeing, I did not want to push my luck and thought +2 might be a good place to close it.

 

So, we had lots of happy buyers above 1400, but met with responsive sellers. The attached chart is kind of how I see the lines drawn-- balance 1386 to 1394, and the upper portion of that, 1394 was tested and held overnight. Seems initially in this first hour like a day to play the range -- 1394 to 1401. Just an initial observation though.

 

What do you guys see this morning?

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    • Date: 15th April 2024. Market News – Negative Reversion; Safe Havens Rally. Trading Leveraged Products is risky Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Markets weigh risk of retaliation cycle in Middle East. Initially the retaliatory strike from Iran on Israel fostered a haven bid, into bonds, gold and other haven assets, as it threatens a wider regional conflict. However, this morning, Oil and Asian equity markets were muted as traders shrugged off fears of a war escalation in the Middle East. Iran said “the matter can be deemed concluded”, and President Joe Biden has called on Israel to exercise restraint following Iran’s drone and missile strike, as part of Washington’s efforts to ease tensions in the Middle East and minimize the likelihood of a widespread regional conflict. New US and UK sanctions banned deliveries of Russian supplies, i.e. key industrial metals, produced after midnight on Friday. Aluminum jumped 9.4%, nickel rose 8.8%, suggesting brokers are bracing for major supply chain disruption. Financial Markets Performance:   The USDIndex fell back from highs over 106 to currently 105.70. The Yen dip against USD to 153.85. USOIL settled lower at 84.50 per barrel and Gold is trading below session highs at currently $2357.92 per ounce. Copper, more liquid and driven by the global economy over recent weeks, was more subdued this morning. Currently at $4.3180. Market Trends:   Asian stock markets traded mixed, but European and US futures are slightly higher after a tough session on Friday and yields have picked up. Mainland China bourses outperformed overnight, after Beijing offered renewed regulatory support. The PBOC meanwhile left the 1-year MLF rate unchanged, while once again draining funds from the system. Nikkei slipped 1% to 39,114.19. On Friday, NASDAQ slumped -1.62% to 16,175, unwinding most of Thursday’s 1.68% jump to a new all-time high at 16,442. The S&P500 fell -1.46% and the Dow dropped 1.24%. Declines were broadbased with all 11 sectors of the S&P finishing in the red. JPMorgan Chase sank 6.5% despite reporting stronger profit in Q1. The nation’s largest bank gave a forecast for a key source of income this year that fell below Wall Street’s estimate, calling for only modest growth. Apple shipments drop by 10% in Q1. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • The morning of my last post I happened to glance over to the side and saw “...angst over the FOMC’s rate trajectory triggered a flight to safety, hence boosting the haven demand. “   http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/topic/21621-hfmarkets-hfmcom-market-analysis-services/page/17/?tab=comments#comment-228522   I reacted, but didn’t take time to  respond then... will now --- HFBlogNews, I don’t know if you are simply aggregating the chosen narratives for the day or if it’s your own reporting... either way - “flight to safety”????  haven ?????  Re: “safety  - ”Those ‘solid rocks’ are getting so fragile a hit from a dandelion blowball might shatter them... like now nobody wants to buy longer term new issues at these rates...yet the financial media still follows the scripts... The imagery they pound day in and day out makes it look like the Fed knows what they’re doing to help ‘us’... They do know what they’re doing - but it certainly is not to help ‘us’... and it is not to ‘control’ inflation... And at some point in the not too distant future, the interest due will eat a huge portion of the ‘revenue’ Re: “haven” The defaults are coming ...  The US will not be the first to default... but it will certainly not be the very last to default !! ...Enough casual anti-white racism for the day  ... just sayin’
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