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Thank you phantom.

 

But why rat-tail, this phenomenon is common to many?

 

Its just something I coined awhile back because that's what it looked like to me...

 

 

Luv,

Phantom

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So,

 

I've given y'all a tried and true way of approaching the markets, I've even had a few PM's and emails touting success for those with the fortitude to watch and try...

 

I've read all over the site that people are failing miserably at trading. I don't doubt that one bit. The 90% failure number remains intact even though the information has been made available on how to turn that around...

 

What exactly are you folks looking for when you spend your time on a website such as this one? It cannot possibly be trading success... except for the limited few...

 

If you have been following this thread and you are still a trading failure, ARE YOU EVEN PAPER TRADING THIS METHODOLOGY??? Or are you simply engaging in mental masturbation?

 

I really don't know what else to say...

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phantom, cees Just a comment on the chart posted by cees and reply from phantom... It seems to me I wont consider a S here since the MACD is not below the zero line .. may be that is the reason price action led to upward movement ?

 

another Q: phantom do you monitor a number of futures/commodity charts and keep looking to see which one is getting setup and then focus on it ?

 

Regards

 

 

Pat

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phantom, cees Just a comment on the chart posted by cees and reply from phantom... It seems to me I wont consider a S here since the MACD is not below the zero line .. may be that is the reason price action led to upward movement ?

 

another Q: phantom do you monitor a number of futures/commodity charts and keep looking to see which one is getting setup and then focus on it ?

 

The MACD filter is always an important consideration, but more important is the price action itself.

 

In Cees example, the market broke slightly, only to retest the high. I would redraw the support line to include the lows established near the lower envelope of the Bollinger band, near the 1.4280 price level. A subsequent break of this level, followed by a failed test, would signal a sell in my book.

 

Yes, I do in fact monitor a chosen few markets and await consolidations in those markets so that I can trade the signaled breakouts when they occur.

 

 

Luv,

Phantom

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Thanks phantom ... it seems consolidation is a necessary condition for your setups ..as shown in some of your examples ... the chart cees posted looks like a up move and pullback and then continuation upward...at that point. you are correct price action supersedes indicators ..

 

If I may ask in response to my Q re looking at some futs, currencies etc and monitor them .. I plan to do the following and would appreciate your input/comments.

 

1) Monitor 120, 60 m charts for trend like hitting the upper/lower BB band

2) once an extreme level in price reaches look for consolidation on 15, 20 m charts

3) Look for the setup after some consolidation ...use the macd filter to help in setup

4) Look for a rat tail etc now for entry and a stop ..

5) Stop is +1, 2 ticks higher than the entry bar

 

In this high Vol environment past week, your setups will force one to move to more calmer futs such as commodities ? emini futs such as TF ES etc were very wild ..[just impossible to trade]

 

Would appreciate if you cud post some charts of the entries you had taken past week..if possible

 

Thank you

 

 

Pat

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Thanks phantom ... it seems consolidation is a necessary condition for your setups ..as shown in some of your examples ... the chart cees posted looks like a up move and pullback and then continuation upward...at that point. you are correct price action supersedes indicators ..

 

If I may ask in response to my Q re looking at some futs, currencies etc and monitor them .. I plan to do the following and would appreciate your input/comments.

 

1) Monitor 120, 60 m charts for trend like hitting the upper/lower BB band

2) once an extreme level in price reaches look for consolidation on 15, 20 m charts

3) Look for the setup after some consolidation ...use the macd filter to help in setup

4) Look for a rat tail etc now for entry and a stop ..

5) Stop is +1, 2 ticks higher than the entry bar

 

In this high Vol environment past week, your setups will force one to move to more calmer futs such as commodities ? emini futs such as TF ES etc were very wild ..[just impossible to trade]

 

On point #2: I don't have to wait for the BB extreme... I want ANY range along a market's path. Why wait for the extreme if a solid setup is right before your eyes?

 

On point #5: stop is higher on a sell, lower on a buy

 

This past week has been crazy, as you said. I have been KILLING IT in the CL, but I'm using a different approach than the one I outlined for you folks on this thread.

 

I'm trading Linda Raschke's "ANTI" setups from the Street Smarts book. I've been trading this setup for many years and it's the BOMB. If you don't have the book...oh well...better get it b4 it becomes unavailable...

 

 

Luv,

Phantom

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Phantom - I've been combing through a few different markets studying the Price Rejection Setup, and I am starting to see it more clearly. In trying to determine valid setups, what would you say is the rough win rate vs. loss rate on this setup (when analyzed correctly)?

 

From my brief study over the last few weeks, I am seeing about a 40% win rate.

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Phantom - I've been combing through a few different markets studying the Price Rejection Setup, and I am starting to see it more clearly. In trying to determine valid setups, what would you say is the rough win rate vs. loss rate on this setup (when analyzed correctly)?

 

From my brief study over the last few weeks, I am seeing about a 40% win rate.

 

Which markets are you looking at?

 

And how would you manage the trades once you would be in?

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Thank you for the comments. I got the book from library this PM and got to the setup you pointed out 'ANTY' and I am going thru it now ..to understand the setup ...looks simple enuf but the examples shown are for Daily charts.

 

Do you first see this setup on Daily chart then move to say 20m 15m charts OR some other timeframe for the entry? I would appreciate if you could post a few charts on CL that you had taken on the past week - with so much turmoil in the market.

 

I will begin to look at this setup with CL charts of the past week and see where I go with it. This could also be a setup that you could show some examples of it - if you choose to do so. Just a few examples of charts would be adequate for the way you take the setups.

 

I must say that for me looking at some charts and the setups from those who are v good at trading gives me the confidence that the setups work and focus myself on be able to see them during the live sessions is a big help. Real time price action and be able to see the setup in real time is forming and recognize it - and have the confidence to take it. Still working on it.

 

Your charts have been of immense help to me.

 

Regards

 

 

Pat

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Thank you for the comments. I got the book from library this PM and got to the setup you pointed out 'ANTY' and I am going thru it now ..to understand the setup ...looks simple enuf but the examples shown are for Daily charts.

 

Do you first see this setup on Daily chart then move to say 20m 15m charts OR some other timeframe for the entry? I would appreciate if you could post a few charts on CL that you had taken on the past week - with so much turmoil in the market.

 

I will begin to look at this setup with CL charts of the past week and see where I go with it. This could also be a setup that you could show some examples of it - if you choose to do so. Just a few examples of charts would be adequate for the way you take the setups.

 

I must say that for me looking at some charts and the setups from those who are v good at trading gives me the confidence that the setups work and focus myself on be able to see them during the live sessions is a big help. Real time price action and be able to see the setup in real time is forming and recognize it - and have the confidence to take it. Still working on it.

 

Your charts have been of immense help to me.

 

I know for a fact that Raschke trades this setup on 5 min ES charts (I used to be a member in her trading room).

 

Truly, this is such a robust method that you can trade it on 1 minute insect charts (lol).

 

Anyway, I look at 20 tic range charts in CL, 20 tic range charts in ZN, 20 tic range charts in GC, 15 tic range charts in NG; the list could go on and on...

 

I use my 5/13/13 macd instead of her 4/7/10 macd cuz I'm married to it...

 

But I think that you need to tinker with it a bit so that you're comfortable with the entries...

 

Look Pat, I really wasn't going to give this away to my readers. It's sooooo powerful in the hands of an experienced trader...

 

I'll post a chart or two later, maybe, but I would really like you to roll up your sleeves and do some research on your own first (remember my previous comment on spoon feeding?)

 

Raschke's book has another setup called "Holy Grail," but in my mind, this setup blows that one away, any day of the week.

 

Get a little dirty, do some serious research. and soon you'll be making PHAT money too.

 

Can I be any plainer than this?

 

 

I'm SUCH a pushover...

 

 

Luv,

Phantom

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Phantom,

 

I don't think I could ever thank you enough. The thing is Raschke uses a Stoch for the anti (at least in the book). How are you using the macd instead of stoch hooks?

 

Thanks,

 

J.

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I was looking primarily at the 6E, ZC, NG, and the CL, 15 minute candles.

 

The exit strategy was simply hit the target or stop out.

 

- Stop loss is hit one tick above/below rat tail entry bar

- Targets are determined 1 of 2 ways;

a. Near term low/high that is 2-3 times the risk

b. If the break occurs as part of a larger pattern (such as a 60 or 120min head and

shoulders) the target of the larger pattern would take precedent.

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Phantom,

 

I don't think I could ever thank you enough. The thing is Raschke uses a Stoch for the anti (at least in the book). How are you using the macd instead of stoch hooks?

 

A little rum goes a long way...

 

You are right. She does use a stoch.

 

I use the fast line versus the slow line on the macd in the same manner that she uses the %k versus the %d.

 

I like my way better...

 

But that doesn't mean you have to...

 

Do the research and see what works best for you...

 

Think I'll go raid the liquor cabinet again...

 

 

Bottoms up!

Phantom

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I agree phantom that ANTY is much easier to follow than the other strategy .. will have to see how it works in real trading and the setups .. Will setup the charts based on this and the timeframes you have mentioned on CL. Still paper trade on CL but I keep looking at the charts with your earlier methodology.

 

Also agree that %K %D cud be substituted with macd .. Easier to refer to one indicator than switch around etc but to each his own...

 

Just wanted to ask why you find this ANTY setups better in high volatile mkts like the one we had last week? compared to your previous method you had described in detail.

 

Regards

 

 

Pat

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A little rum goes a long way...

 

You are right. She does use a stoch.

 

I use the fast line versus the slow line on the macd in the same manner that she uses the %k versus the %d.

 

I like my way better...

 

But that doesn't mean you have to...

 

Do the research and see what works best for you...

 

Think I'll go raid the liquor cabinet again...

 

 

Bottoms up!

Phantom

 

P,

 

I'll do my homework and figure out what works best for me.

I am glad this thread is still alive. Enough kibble makes for a hearty meal.

 

Enjoy the weekend.

 

Thanks always,

 

J.

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I was looking primarily at the 6E, ZC, NG, and the CL, 15 minute candles.

 

The exit strategy was simply hit the target or stop out.

 

- Stop loss is hit one tick above/below rat tail entry bar

- Targets are determined 1 of 2 ways;

a. Near term low/high that is 2-3 times the risk

b. If the break occurs as part of a larger pattern (such as a 60 or 120min head and

shoulders) the target of the larger pattern would take precedent.

 

On point a: I really don't trade the smaller range breakouts, so I couldn't tell you a winning %

 

On point b: since I only look for range breakouts in conjunction with longer term charts, and I really focus on tightly knit channels like 4-6 bar sideways channels off the 120 chart, my winning % is more like 67% in the euro and corn markets. NG is closer to 40%. CL is pretty new to me; I'm trading the ANTI more than the range breakouts in this market due to its proclivity for quick reversals.

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Just wanted to ask why you find this ANTY setups better in high volatile mkts like the one we had last week? compared to your previous method you had described in detail.

 

Highly volatile markets are prone to quick reversals and the ANTI setups are more of a "hit and run" trading method than the other stuff.

 

Its a real bitch to wait forever for a market like CL to produce a solid setup only to follow through minimally, while I could have been surgically removing SHLOADS of money in the meantime...

 

Its not uncommon to have several trades each day in the current CL environment.

 

 

Luv,

Phantom

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here is a chart based on ANTY setup and as per phantom timeframe and macd setting. I have marked the S and L locations ...based on the strategy defined in Street smarts. P if you get a chance to look at it ..any comments will be appreciated.

 

Hope the chart shows up. Attaching ti for the first time.

 

#2 S failed it seems ... #1 and #3 worked well.

 

#1 L failed too. #2 and #3 worked well.

 

 

pat

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here is a chart based on ANTY setup and as per phantom timeframe and macd setting. I have marked the S and L locations ...based on the strategy defined in Street smarts. P if you get a chance to look at it ..any comments will be appreciated.

 

Hope the chart shows up. Attaching ti for the first time.

 

#2 S failed it seems ... #1 and #3 worked well.

 

#1 L failed too. #2 and #3 worked well.

 

 

pat

 

What settings are you using for the macd? It doesn't look anything like mine...

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Thanks phantom for the explanation ...geez I was thinking the opposite of what you said :( However, it is clear now that ANTY is a hit & run setup but need to be very careful ... Watching the ES & TF last week ...no way one cud use a stop even 3, 4 or 5 pts on these futs ..mkt was so volatile that these stops or even greater than these #s wud have been hit. I did not trade as I was clearly not up to the task of been able to use any kind of stops.

 

But a friend who trades well said these are the times to make hay while the sun shines .. and they dont come by often. Well will work on my understandings of this ANTY setup in real time and do some paper trades. If others who are following this setup .cud post some comments / charts will be a good start to look at this setup along with phantom previous setup that he described in detail.

 

Regards

 

 

pat

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phantom I am using the macd setting of 5, 13, 13 that is

Ave 1 5 exp

Ave 2 13 simple

Ave 13 simple

 

sorry should have used Ave 1 as 5 simple?

 

Thank you for the help.

 

 

Regards

 

 

Pat

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Iam You may be right ..'exp' settings gives the setup earlier than the 'simple' settings ..but one can also look at the rat tails that phantom mentioned ..in this setup too...However, experience and confidence counts a lot in trading and obviously phantom has been at it for a long time.

 

Real time price action and being able to see the setup quick and take it .. comes with time and study the charts of exprienced traders ...

 

I hope phantom will keep this thread going so we cud share charts and his setups of the previous day.

 

Regards

 

 

pat

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phantom I am using the macd setting of 5, 13, 13 that is

Ave 1 5 exp

Ave 2 13 simple

Ave 13 simple

 

sorry should have used Ave 1 as 5 simple?

 

Thank you for the help.

 

 

I use sma's.

 

Also, I only take sell signals if both fast and slow lines are below the zero line; I only take buy signals if both lines are above the zero line.

 

Less signals, better reliability.

 

 

Luv,

Phantom

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    • Date: 18th April 2024. Market News – Stock markets benefit from Dollar correction. Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Technical buying, bargain hunting, and risk aversion helped Treasuries rally and unwind recent losses. Yields dropped from the recent 2024 highs. Asian stock markets strengthened, as the US Dollar corrected in the wake of comments from Japan’s currency chief Masato Kanda, who said G7 countries continue to stress that excessive swings and disorderly moves in the foreign exchange market were harmful for economies. US Stockpiles expanded to 10-month high. The data overshadowed the impact of geopolitical tensions in the Middle East as traders await Israel’s response to Iran’s unprecedented recent attack. President Joe Biden called for higher tariffs on imports of Chinese steel and aluminum.   Financial Markets Performance:   The USDIndex stumbled, falling to 105.66 at the end of the day from the intraday high of 106.48. It lost ground against most of its G10 peers. There wasn’t much on the calendar to provide new direction. USDJPY lows retesting the 154 bottom! NOT an intervention yet. BoJ/MoF USDJPY intervention happens when there is more than 100+ pip move in seconds, not 50 pips. USOIL slumped by 3% near $82, as US crude inventories rose by 2.7 million barrels last week, hitting the highest level since last June, while gauges of fuel demand declined. Gold strengthened as the dollar weakened and bullion is trading at $2378.44 per ounce. Market Trends:   Wall Street closed in the red after opening with small corrective gains. The NASDAQ underperformed, slumping -1.15%, with the S&P500 -0.58% lower, while the Dow lost -0.12. The Nikkei closed 0.2% higher, the Hang Seng gained more than 1. European and US futures are finding buyers. A gauge of global chip stocks and AI bellwether Nvidia Corp. have both fallen into a technical correction. The TMSC reported its first profit rise in a year, after strong AI demand revived growth at the world’s biggest contract chipmaker. The main chipmaker to Apple Inc. and Nvidia Corp. recorded a 9% rise in net income, beating estimates. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • Date: 17th April 2024. Market News – Appetite for risk-taking remains weak. Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Stocks, Treasury yields and US Dollar stay firmed. Fed Chair Powell added to the recent sell off. His slightly more hawkish tone further priced out chances for any imminent action and the timing of a cut was pushed out further. He suggested if higher inflation does persist, the Fed will hold rates steady “for as long as needed.” Implied Fed Fund: There remains no real chance for a move on May 1 and at their intraday highs the June implied funds rate future showed only 5 bps, while July reflected only 10 bps. And a full 25 bps was not priced in until November, with 38 bps in cuts seen for 2024. US & EU Economies Diverging: Lagarde says ECB is moving toward rate cuts – if there are no major shocks. UK March CPI inflation falls less than expected. Output price inflation has started to nudge higher, despite another decline in input prices. Together with yesterday’s higher than expected wage numbers, the data will add to the arguments of the hawks at the BoE, which remain very reluctant to contemplate rate cuts. Canada CPI rose 0.6% in March, double the 0.3% February increase BUT core eased. The doors are still open for a possible cut at the next BoC meeting on June 5. IMF revised up its global growth forecast for 2024 with inflation easing, in its new World Economic Outlook. This is consistent with a global soft landing, according to the report. Financial Markets Performance:   USDJPY also inched up to 154.67 on expectations the BoJ will remain accommodative and as the market challenges a perceived 155 red line for MoF intervention. USOIL prices slipped -0.15% to $84.20 per barrel. Gold rose 0.24% to $2389.11 per ounce, a new record closing high as geopolitical risks overshadowed the impacts of rising rates and the stronger dollar. Market Trends:   Wall Street waffled either side of unchanged on the day amid dimming rate cut potential, rising yields, and earnings. The major indexes closed mixed with the Dow up 0.17%, while the S&P500 and NASDAQ lost -0.21% and -0.12%, respectively. Asian stock markets mostly corrected again, with Japanese bourses underperforming and the Nikkei down -1.3%. Mainland China bourses were a notable exception and the CSI 300 rallied 1.4%, but the MSCI Asia Pacific index came close to erasing the gains for this year. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.vvvvvvv
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