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Awesome posting!

Many thanks to both of you.

 

Does Primary Process developmentally end ?

Or does it just go unconscious (and run in parallel) ?

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ZDO -- Not sure I understand your question about Primary Process. I interpret Primary Process as the hardwiring of pattern that produces a stable perceptual map of the world. It is asserted that 75% of our organization of self is complete by the age of the 3 rd year of brain development. The real primitive pattern embedment does not go away, and, yes, parallel pathways can be build (habits and trained perceptual fields) to run concurantly with the old perceptual map. Fortunately, the brain and emergent mind have a tremendous level of plasticity to them. It is this aspect that offers us the capacity to change our ways of observing and interacting with the world we are creating. Our histories may never disappear, but we are able to become participants in the design of our futures. So we can alter the movement of our histories into the future. And trading is a great platform for this. You get real time feedback on your biases and beliefs about the decisions you make. We can become observers of the thought patterns (what I call voices on the stage of the self) and begin to choose which part of our internal dialog we feed and nuture. Becoming comfortable with uncertainty is essential for this. Rande Howell

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A very good discussion guys. Well done this is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

 

I must apologize if I am crossing/mixing the coaching versus psycho boundaries here.

 

I note at least three levels of Jargon when People are communicating Psychology.Not necessarily in any order

 

The first is to discuss the physiology of root cause of behaviour eg and relate it back to parts of the brain etc this can be of some interest but is pretty clinical....

 

The second is to use the common known psychology learned/taught jargon when describing patients psychology/pathology,

 

And then there is the actual bodily/mind sensation/thought process that is actually going on inside of someone who does not have the complete set of tools to incarnate it all fully in the moment. Much undiscovered psychology/process is still in here....

 

As a coach ones job is to see the other...even before it is "seen" and understood in the person who one is coaching... or alternatively to provide an environment to let the other discover a process that is interesting in terms of self development and outer learning...often outer tasks/learning have feedback loops of an inner process going on..

 

From a psychology point of view the first couple of years of life are critical to the development of an individual. The mothers reverie is the most important aspect in the Child discovering the devine ...The subtle body and its sensation is the first level of boundedness for the child ......on it goes...Klein, Odgen,Jung have been some important contributers to practical modern day therapy ( amongst many others )

 

I personally have found the outer task of designing and developing trading systems that are statistically based a real personal challenge that has pushed my boundaries of stats knowledge and in some cases introduced myself again to some dissociated parts of myself and have revisited other known feeling states along the way...thus an eg of a typical alchemical process or individuation process

 

 

Best

John

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Regardless of how you define "knowing thyself," in trading there is only one measurement for me, and this is the most important thing in my journal: Did I follow my plan? Yes/No. Few things are so black & white.

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Ulli -- So true. I use the balance in the trading account as the measure. The trading account cuts through all the stories and it is black and white about effectiveness. And as a benchmark measure, I use the win percentage and the ration of profitabiltiy of wins to losses to measure progress. At the bottom, a successful psychological plan is used so that you can stay on trading plan. And you are assessing the market through your beliefs, biases, and states of mind that is your personal psychology. So looking at the trading account is an excellent way of gauging the strength of your trader psychology. If you're on plan and profitable, then your psychological plan is proceeding in an effective direction. Rande Howell

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re: “Regardless of how you define "knowing thyself," in trading there is only one measurement for me, and this is the most important thing in my journal: Did I follow my plan? Yes/No. Few things are so black & white.”

 

and

 

re: “If you're on plan and profitable, then your psychological plan is proceeding in an effective direction.”

 

I’m not so sure about that emphasis on bottom line as an indicator of know thyself for traders

I know a guy who is all over the bottom line, it’s admirable how extremely well he sticks to his plans, and he quickly built a small fortune – but he is seriously low on a ‘know thyself’ / insight about himself scale … and that has now shown up in the last year or so in his failure to adapt…

Ulli, you mentioned plan. Well, one of the reasons behind starting this thread was noticing some subtle cyclicity / variability in my own ease of implementing sound proven plans. I could ignore that, measure my knowing self via the bottom line, etc. work with it in standard ways – or I could ask questions and explore the whole... and maybe there are a couple others who could benefit from such an exploration.

Every nth post someone comes along and basically tells us to get practical again and stop mucking around in what has of late unfolded as an exploration of developmental stuff

Rande mentioned ‘story’… Has this material changed my narrative re my development as a trader (before I started trading)? Not yet. But…

Has this material threatened others’ narratives? I take ‘what you are discussing is wrong’ posts as symptoms of that. This thread is for a few. There are huge crowds of bottom line, plan, discipline, edge threads to be ‘practical’ in…

Not a slam Ulli because you are one of the best posters on this forum... Just a reminder that a few of us want to explore some things and shepherding us back to the more objective fields is really off topic…

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re “We can become observers of the thought patterns (what I call voices on the stage of the self) and begin to choose which part of our internal dialog we feed and nuture”

 

Rande, are you talking subpersonalities here? thx

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"Just a reminder that a few of us want to explore some things and shepherding us back to the more objective fields is really off topic…"

 

Sorry, if it seemed that way. I should have said more about what it takes to follow a plan, which is to know thyself.

 

It took me a long time to figure this one out. I have over 20,000 mp3 files in my library on how to operate the brain, have a good life, etc. Since I was 17 (I'm almost 54 now) I've studied all the self-help & self-improvement gurus starting with Maxwell Maltz's Psycho Cybernetics, and followed up with all the popular ones today: Tony Robbins, Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer, Joe Vitale, Don Miguel Ruiz, Eckhart Tolle and many, many others. But the one book that connected all the dots, and changed everything (for me anyway) was "Ask & It Is Given" by Jerry & Esther Hicks.

 

Knowing one's purpose for living is a great help when trading. As many others have said, trading is just an extension of Who You Are. Traders having difficulty making money have issues in other areas of their lives, too. I know. Not only have I been there, but I've coached countless other traders who cannot be taught how to make money until they are taught how to 'Know Themselves.'

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zdo. Probably preference. It is our mindset that interacts with our methodology. That is, our beliefs and hidden biases are the blinders that we interpret through. We can hold on to many stories (fish tales) about performances in most domains of our lives. But in trading, your trading account reflects directly on your competence in managing your psychology of trading. It helps to cut through the clutter and take responsibility for what ever story you are about trading. It's hard to stay in avoidance when you are taking responsibility for your trading account. By moving out of avoidance, we can observe what we are stuck in -- and grow from the experience. Rande Howell

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It took me a long time to figure this one out. I have over 20,000 mp3 files in my library on how to operate the brain, have a good life, etc. Since I was 17 (I'm almost 54 now) I've studied all the self-help & self-improvement gurus starting with Maxwell Maltz's Psycho Cybernetics, and followed up with all the popular ones today: Tony Robbins, Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer, Joe Vitale, Don Miguel Ruiz, Eckhart Tolle and many, many others. But the one book that connected all the dots, and changed everything (for me anyway) was "Ask & It Is Given" by Jerry & Esther Hicks.

 

Knowing one's purpose for living is a great help when trading. As many others have said, trading is just an extension of Who You Are. Traders having difficulty making money have issues in other areas of their lives, too. I know. Not only have I been there, but I've coached countless other traders who cannot be taught how to make money until they are taught how to 'Know Themselves.'

 

Yes, the primary ‘know thyself’ is to know what you really want from deep within, and choose it as purpose – “choosing what is chosen…”

Let’s credit Blowfish, DugDug, and others for pointing that out early in the thread and Rande H. for pounding ‘true self honesty’ and 'avoiding avoidance' throughout.

 

Uli, I over-reacted to your distilling it to the question of “Did I Worked the Plan – Yes or No?” because at this time answering that question daily doesn’t provide me with much information.

Quick review

I run quarters from solstice to equinox to …

This quarter, in my intraday bread and butter active trading, so far I have

Losing days: 1 - Jan 8

Trading mistakes / off plan: 2 - One corrected immediately. The other I focused in and worked my way out of . It’s been over a year since I made a real bonehead mistake like ‘staying with a loser till it comes back’ etc.

Execution mistakes: 2 - Both corrected almost in the same breath they were made.

Results:

Entries – Most are immaculate. Some are a tick off from where they should be. A few are 2 ticks. Not very susceptible to jumping in early – an issue in the past.

Exits- Have been exiting profitable trades a little earlier than usual plan, but daily range and swing sizes haven’t been exactly large lately so can’t really don’t call that not following plan - it is what it is. 90% of time was glad I did get out. Happy with where I’ve been taking losses too – ahead of stops usually.

Bottom line is running about 0.2 – 0.3 % less than long term average daily net net. My ‘prayer’ - Give me some wild days to play and I’ll ‘fix’ that in a couple days… :cool:

Comments: I have cumulative 3 - 5 hours truly in ‘flow’ this quarter. However, large percentages of each day’s sessions are spent in the zone, in near intuitive trading (for me), glance and click decisions, in acceptance of results and self. Trading “emotions” – steady, no anger, angst, or suffering this quarter – so far :). It has generally been ‘fun’ and trading has virtually no reach or duration outside my personal trading sessions.

 

Basically, folks, I’ve got my ’10,000 hours’ in – and, yes, many of them were tough and painful. Answering that “Did I work the plan?” question at the end of the trading day is truly important and I don’t want to discount it - but it does not get me to the subtleties and depth I need to explore right now and actually have always needed to explore -- hint hint noobies.

 

With that vitae, Uli, I really appreciate having you around. You can depend on knowing at least one person is listening to your posts. Type it in … and thanks!

 

 

 

 

I had a dream last night. The dream ego had three little fish in a bag / bowl and a series of dream obstacles to getting them to the main tank that had 1 other fish waiting and bubbles going etc. My wife was for a time involved in leading me / misleading d.e. to the location of the tank, etc. During the process, the dream ego was concerned about the condition and survival of the 3 fish and was considering whether it was best to just dump the fish in or let them ride in the bag till water temperatures matched when the tank was ‘located’ … :)

 

All the best

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Nice Zdo....

I had a phone call with a friend overseas today and when you mentioned the 10,000 hours I had a laugh. My friend is the classic studied what she loved for 4 years (micro biology), then decided to do something completely different as the money in science is not so great.

 

I wondered how many people study trading, do the time, actually get to the successful stage of being a consistently profitable trader (not accounting for absolute dollars made), and then decide to say "right been there done that - lets do something else". My guess is not many but definitely a few.:2c:

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Nice Zdo....

I had a phone call with a friend overseas today and when you mentioned the 10,000 hours I had a laugh. My friend is the classic studied what she loved for 4 years (micro biology), then decided to do something completely different as the money in science is not so great.

 

I wondered how many people study trading, do the time, actually get to the successful stage of being a consistently profitable trader (not accounting for absolute dollars made), and then decide to say "right been there done that - lets do something else". My guess is not many but definitely a few.:2c:

 

Yep. If I remember correctly Mark Douglas went through a period where a trader “just isn’t who I am anymore”. Personally, I have had my interest and energy for trading ebb and flow across the years – but the passion and love for the game thankfully persists enough for me to stay active.

Also, I know there will come a day when developmentally / age I will be done with it. An older friend of mine just reported he is no longer has the interest in poker and going to Vegas twice a year like he did for years and years…

I do experience a similar phenom. more with physical skills. By the time I’m good at something, the project is just finishing up and then I’m not really interested in starting more similar projects… etc.

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Interesting dream Zdo

Anything significant happen the day before you dreamed the dream that night ?

 

Best

John

 

The only thing I can think of - I had moved some funds between accounts in the last few days…had a little more hassle than usual

I must have been in a dream sharing mood. Told the dream to 4 others. Two went in a sexual direction with it. One went ‘Jungian’/ 'archetypical'. My wife just sipped her coffee and widened her eyes a little …

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Here’s part of why I brought up the term ‘subpersonalities’

 

In our developmental process we are rewarded for certain behaviors and punished for others: thus, some selves are strengthened and others are weakened. We learn our lessons well and consequently develop “personalities”. It is strange to think that a personality is actually a system of subpersonalities (selves) that eradicates our psychic fingerprint as it brings us control – and thereby, power – in the world

From

Embracing Our Selves 1989

Hal and Sidra Stone

 

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i make a habit of picturing myself sitting up on a ledge,with the right emotion,thought ,answer,action...in tune with god....and that me on the ledge watching the me below make the mistakes ,for pride ,stupidity,sloth,exhaustion, a million reasons,and constantly reassuring or correcting myself as life goes on...i'm of the belief that we intuitively know the difference between right and wrong,where the markets going,how things are,... we (humans) just spend our lives....most of us...never getting control of our egos..consequently letting the ego control us...with predictable results documented over and over thruout history

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I have one challenge only: I can't face losses.

 

Losses are killing me, a losing trade feels to me like a stab with a knife in the heart, while I have no problem losing at conventional games, e.g. chess, a single losing trade is something that puts me down. It's causing me so much pain that it's hard to express. I feel clouds darkening the sky of my mind after a losing trade. Like facing a huge block that you know will be almost impossible to get thru.

 

That thing is having a bazillion effects on me, all of them adverse:

1) my mood goes downhill, affecting my own and others' personal life

2) I have a great urge to find a flaw in the system after a losing trade, and correct it

3) after a streak of losing trades, just 2-3 are enough, or a month of trading where I'm +/- 0 on balance, or slightly below 0, I immediately seek a new system

 

I've been thinking about the remedy - perhaps quality mentorship putting me in the right mindset is what I'm lacking. I'll keep pursuing the topic.

 

 

 

"Using techniques such as magnetic resonance imaging, neuroscientists have documented the fact that monetary gain stimulates the same reward circuitry as cocaine — in both cases, dopamine is released into the nucleus accumbens. Similarly, the threat of financial loss activates the same fight-or-flight circuitry as physical attacks, releasing adrenaline and cortisol into the bloodstream, which results in elevated heart rate, blood pressure, and alertness.

These reactions are hardwired into human physiology, and while some of us are able to overcome our biology through education, experience, or genetic good luck, the vast majority of the human population is driven by these “animal spirits” that John Maynard Keynes identified over 70 years ago..."

Andrew Lo

This Is Your Brain on Prosperity: Andrew Lo on Fear, Greed, and Crisis Management - Freakonomics Blog - NYTimes.com

 

Not wanting to ‘be wrong’ is crucial part of it, but in my experience the right / wrong is just one of a simultaneous and varying four pack of factors...

 

Some of us come to trading with these ‘threat associations’ globalized, ubiquitous, and at the ready… each threat joins a crescendo triggering associations with ALL other threats past (and ‘future’ / projected), Each loss is associated with, yes, even a painful death itself…with most of the ‘action’ occurring in surges of consciousness, then ‘repression’, suppresson, what not… (…my guess is about 78% of any current generation/population of traders fall into a gradient of this group…)

 

Some traders come with associations but they are less universal, lower quantity (…I estimate about 19% of any current generation/population of traders fits into a gradient of this group…)

 

And a few come with very few of these ‘associations’ / triggers… (roughly 3% … how do you spell paretopareto?... )

 

This can serve as a scale of the ‘emotional vulnerability’ of a trader…it’s kind of scary - a huge percentage of seriously self honest traders could not accurately say in which group they would really be if they were hooked up to biofeedback….)

 

…factors of genetics AND learning…but not the kinds of learning limited to cognitive functions and ‘discipline’ … ‘thinking’ can help but to believe that thinking alone can ameliorate these vulnerabilities is naïve and misguided…

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"Using techniques such as magnetic resonance imaging, neuroscientists have documented the fact that monetary gain stimulates the same reward circuitry as cocaine.........

 

On a program called "Mind Over Money" that came on public television, I saw something similar that compared monetary gain to sex and food.

 

NOVA | Mind Over Money | PBS

 

I thought the program was worth watching.

 

Cory

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Thanks Zdo for your reply in the thread 'Flow Thyself'

and diverting me to a more appropriate thread 'Know Thyself'

 

I re-post the good link to read the quotes by Aldous Huxley

 

In my opinion this page is absolutely worth reading

 

Aldous Huxley | Know Thyself

 

Please note:

The trading systems which I initially created & tested were very different than the one's I started to achieve some success with after knowing more about Self & Psychology (S&P). Knowingly I started off devising the system which enabled me to adhere to my stop losses and accept changes contrary to my current BIAS. These two were major contentious issues with my Primitive Mind and had to make do with over simplified system till I was comfortable in taking losses timely and more consistently.

 

Now I trade more with Preferences and Confluence derived from market internals and trade mostly in uni-direction off such conformance, so I mostly do not get caught on the wrong side of markets. Other most important thing I learned from the Market is to be Patience (while learning to trade and on simulation account one may foolishly indulge more than necessary and think they would not do the same in live markets) Hence the most valid position in my system is COP - Consciously Out Position. To me its much important to know when my system will not work with me and market 'both' than to have an overall profitable system for any given conditions in the market. I rather only employ my system when those probable conditions to profit in the markets are in Conformance. And practice discipline by staying out for the rest of the time.

 

l still struggle at times to do this consistently. Pre-Opening Preparation and Patience are both necessary part of my thy trader system.

 

Thanks Minoo

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Clearly written... and it makes a lot of sense ;)

 

When you don’t know who you really are, you remain unconsciously trapped in a false fight with basically being who your brains think the “somebody else meme wants you to be”. Thoughts and beliefs are ‘given’ to you...

performance workers - which traders are - doing typical ‘know thyself work tend to fall into comparison traps... activities like seeking (and reseeking... and reseeking...) character references from themselves, etc...

perennials cycle of a waxing inner Dunning–Kruger effect...then a sudden, unexpected enanthropic waning... a rushing to the opposite extreme ...

 

When you ‘know thyself’, all that stuff is dropped ... simply unnecessary. When you really ‘know thyself’, your experience - but not necessarily your expressions - arise via ‘thou art that’.

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You cannot know about your self unless you bury your Ego and start being brutally honest with your conventional self first when learning

 

The difference between the L-earner and Earner is the Big L, you cant get away or do away either with your losses or emotions. And they are related. So learn to handle them Humbly (with less reactions, emotions or drama) and as a learner you get plenty of chances to nail them. Dont go against the natural process which all human beings go through to learn new things or you will pay heavily not only with your time, effort and money but psychologically as well.

 

The first thing you need to learn at this game is:

How to Loose Humbly & Timely every time.

 

If you cant face to learn How to Loose than sooner or later after much effort time and hard work, you will tend to become worse. Your mind will become a petri-dish for reenacting psychological problems (for denying the first truth of this loosing game)

 

No amount of pretense, patronizing or self bashing with your self will do. Not many can plan to learn; How to Loose. This is un-natural and thought of as negative but you have to be purposeful and get pass the phase honestly. Bring yourself around to read the truth of your own doings; off your own defined system by your own self and hopefully what is & very strictly is truthfully jotted in your own journal. If you have not yet step upon this yet, you have not taken the first step to truly begin your learning or earning

 

If the above is realized than Perhaps you bring yourself at the starting line for making a system for your honest self to learn to trade (to deal timely with your losses and knowing better your trader self)

 

The journey of learning begins than . . . . .. .

(For me before this things were realized by my conventional self, it was only a myriad of financial and emotional struggle . .. .)

 

Once you learn to take losses mostly on time, that does not mean you have learned how to take your earned profits. I still have not learned how to exit at targets and may not ever. But I am glad to have trained to learn how to let my positions run with my trailing stops. One never knows how much the market wants to give or take back. I am happy to trail along & let the market make that decision, so one less decision every time I am engage in the market. Basically I want to master two things When to enter the market with stops and how to manage them. Thats it Folks.

 

Keep it Simple and Short, so by the efforts of your own logic you keep thy stupid away.

 

Enjoy Minoo

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Will De Lucy of Amplify Trading, who were recently awarded by CFA posted this video on their FaceBook page and I found the very harsh truth a Professional Player (Terry Griffiths) had to endure very humbling. Absolutely worth listening to Terry's sincere comments.

 

 

I post this to mark one of the best days of my trading life, yet I left so much on the table.

Compromise my rule of trailing with stop loss and instead got out (early) on some chart depicted Target.

 

Trade-Management rules Precedes Technical Analysis

 

Enjoy Minoo

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    • Date: 17th April 2024. Market News – Appetite for risk-taking remains weak. Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Stocks, Treasury yields and US Dollar stay firmed. Fed Chair Powell added to the recent sell off. His slightly more hawkish tone further priced out chances for any imminent action and the timing of a cut was pushed out further. He suggested if higher inflation does persist, the Fed will hold rates steady “for as long as needed.” Implied Fed Fund: There remains no real chance for a move on May 1 and at their intraday highs the June implied funds rate future showed only 5 bps, while July reflected only 10 bps. And a full 25 bps was not priced in until November, with 38 bps in cuts seen for 2024. US & EU Economies Diverging: Lagarde says ECB is moving toward rate cuts – if there are no major shocks. UK March CPI inflation falls less than expected. Output price inflation has started to nudge higher, despite another decline in input prices. Together with yesterday’s higher than expected wage numbers, the data will add to the arguments of the hawks at the BoE, which remain very reluctant to contemplate rate cuts. Canada CPI rose 0.6% in March, double the 0.3% February increase BUT core eased. The doors are still open for a possible cut at the next BoC meeting on June 5. IMF revised up its global growth forecast for 2024 with inflation easing, in its new World Economic Outlook. This is consistent with a global soft landing, according to the report. Financial Markets Performance:   USDJPY also inched up to 154.67 on expectations the BoJ will remain accommodative and as the market challenges a perceived 155 red line for MoF intervention. USOIL prices slipped -0.15% to $84.20 per barrel. Gold rose 0.24% to $2389.11 per ounce, a new record closing high as geopolitical risks overshadowed the impacts of rising rates and the stronger dollar. Market Trends:   Wall Street waffled either side of unchanged on the day amid dimming rate cut potential, rising yields, and earnings. The major indexes closed mixed with the Dow up 0.17%, while the S&P500 and NASDAQ lost -0.21% and -0.12%, respectively. Asian stock markets mostly corrected again, with Japanese bourses underperforming and the Nikkei down -1.3%. Mainland China bourses were a notable exception and the CSI 300 rallied 1.4%, but the MSCI Asia Pacific index came close to erasing the gains for this year. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.vvvvvvv
    • Date: 16th April 2024. Market News – Stocks and currencies sell off; USD up. Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Stocks and currencies sell off, while the US Dollar picks up haven flows. Treasuries yields spiked again to fresh 2024 peaks before paring losses into the close, post, the stronger than expected retail sales eliciting a broad sell off in the markets. Rates surged as the data pushed rate cut bets further into the future with July now less than a 50-50 chance. Wall Street finished with steep declines led by tech. Stocks opened in the green on a relief trade after Israel repulsed the well advertised attack from Iran on Sunday. But equities turned sharply lower and extended last week’s declines amid the rise in yields. Investor concerns were intensified as Israel threatened retaliation. There’s growing anxiety over earnings even after a big beat from Goldman Sachs. UK labor market data was mixed, as the ILO unemployment rate unexpectedly lifted, while wage growth came in higher than anticipated – The data suggests that the labor market is catching up with the recession. Mixed messages then for the BoE. China grew by 5.3% in Q1 however the numbers are causing a lot of doubts over sustainability of this growth. The bounce came in the first 2 months of the year. In March, growth in retail sales slumped and industrial output decelerated below forecasts, suggesting challenges on the horizon. Today: Germany ZEW, US housing starts & industrial production, Fed Vice Chair Philip Jefferson speech, BOE Bailey speech & IMF outlook. Earnings releases: Morgan Stanley and Bank of America. Financial Markets Performance:   The US Dollar rallied to 106.19 after testing 106.25, gaining against JPY and rising to 154.23, despite intervention risk. Yen traders started to see the 160 mark as the next Resistance level. Gold surged 1.76% to $2386 per ounce amid geopolitical risks and Chinese buying, even as the USD firmed and yields climbed. USOIL is flat at $85 per barrel. Market Trends:   Breaks of key technical levels exacerbated the sell off. Tech was the big loser with the NASDAQ plunging -1.79% to 15,885 while the S&P500 dropped -1.20% to 5061, with the Dow sliding -0.65% to 37,735. The S&P had the biggest 2-day sell off since March 2023. Nikkei and ASX lost -1.9% and -1.8% respectively, and the Hang Seng is down -2.1%. European bourses are down more than -1% and US futures are also in the red. CTA selling tsunami: “Just a few points lower CTAs will for the first time this year start selling in size, to add insult to injury, we are breaking major trend-lines in equities and the gamma stabilizer is totally gone.” Short term CTA threshold levels are kicking in big time according to GS. Medium term is 4873 (most important) while the long term level is at 4605. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • Date: 15th April 2024. Market News – Negative Reversion; Safe Havens Rally. Trading Leveraged Products is risky Economic Indicators & Central Banks:   Markets weigh risk of retaliation cycle in Middle East. Initially the retaliatory strike from Iran on Israel fostered a haven bid, into bonds, gold and other haven assets, as it threatens a wider regional conflict. However, this morning, Oil and Asian equity markets were muted as traders shrugged off fears of a war escalation in the Middle East. Iran said “the matter can be deemed concluded”, and President Joe Biden has called on Israel to exercise restraint following Iran’s drone and missile strike, as part of Washington’s efforts to ease tensions in the Middle East and minimize the likelihood of a widespread regional conflict. New US and UK sanctions banned deliveries of Russian supplies, i.e. key industrial metals, produced after midnight on Friday. Aluminum jumped 9.4%, nickel rose 8.8%, suggesting brokers are bracing for major supply chain disruption. Financial Markets Performance:   The USDIndex fell back from highs over 106 to currently 105.70. The Yen dip against USD to 153.85. USOIL settled lower at 84.50 per barrel and Gold is trading below session highs at currently $2357.92 per ounce. Copper, more liquid and driven by the global economy over recent weeks, was more subdued this morning. Currently at $4.3180. Market Trends:   Asian stock markets traded mixed, but European and US futures are slightly higher after a tough session on Friday and yields have picked up. Mainland China bourses outperformed overnight, after Beijing offered renewed regulatory support. The PBOC meanwhile left the 1-year MLF rate unchanged, while once again draining funds from the system. Nikkei slipped 1% to 39,114.19. On Friday, NASDAQ slumped -1.62% to 16,175, unwinding most of Thursday’s 1.68% jump to a new all-time high at 16,442. The S&P500 fell -1.46% and the Dow dropped 1.24%. Declines were broadbased with all 11 sectors of the S&P finishing in the red. JPMorgan Chase sank 6.5% despite reporting stronger profit in Q1. The nation’s largest bank gave a forecast for a key source of income this year that fell below Wall Street’s estimate, calling for only modest growth. Apple shipments drop by 10% in Q1. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Andria Pichidi Market Analyst HFMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • The morning of my last post I happened to glance over to the side and saw “...angst over the FOMC’s rate trajectory triggered a flight to safety, hence boosting the haven demand. “   http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/topic/21621-hfmarkets-hfmcom-market-analysis-services/page/17/?tab=comments#comment-228522   I reacted, but didn’t take time to  respond then... will now --- HFBlogNews, I don’t know if you are simply aggregating the chosen narratives for the day or if it’s your own reporting... either way - “flight to safety”????  haven ?????  Re: “safety  - ”Those ‘solid rocks’ are getting so fragile a hit from a dandelion blowball might shatter them... like now nobody wants to buy longer term new issues at these rates...yet the financial media still follows the scripts... The imagery they pound day in and day out makes it look like the Fed knows what they’re doing to help ‘us’... They do know what they’re doing - but it certainly is not to help ‘us’... and it is not to ‘control’ inflation... And at some point in the not too distant future, the interest due will eat a huge portion of the ‘revenue’ Re: “haven” The defaults are coming ...  The US will not be the first to default... but it will certainly not be the very last to default !! ...Enough casual anti-white racism for the day  ... just sayin’
    • Date: 12th April 2024. Producer Inflation On The Rise, But Will Earnings Hold Demand Steady?     Producer inflation rose slightly less than previous expectations, but the annual figure continues to rise. The annual PPI rose to 2.1% and the Core PPI rose to 2.4%. The NASDAQ and SNP500 end the day higher, but the Dow Jones continues to struggle. This morning earnings kick off with the banking sector including JP Morgan, BlackRock and Wells Fargo. All 3 stocks trade higher during pre-trading hours. The Euro trades lower against all currencies despite the ECB’s attempt to establish a hawkish tone. USA100 – The NASDAQ Climbs Higher, But Is the Growth Sustainable? The NASDAQ was the only index which did not witness a significant decline at the opening of the US session. In addition to this, the USA100 is the only index which is witnessing indications of a bullish market. The price has crossed onto a higher high breaking the resistance level at $18,269. The index is also trading above the 75-Bar EMA and at the 65.00 level on the RSI which signals buyers are controlling the market. However, a similar large bullish impulse wave was also formed on the 3rd and 5th of the month and was followed by a correction. Therefore, investors need to be cautious of a bearish breakout which may signal a correction back to the 75-bar EMA (18,165). The medium-term growth and its sustainability will depend on the upcoming earnings data.   Bond yields declined during this morning’s Asian session by 18 points, which is positive for the stock market. However, even with the decline, bond yields remain significantly higher than Monday’s opening yield. This week the 10-year bond yield rose from 4.424 to 4.558, which is a concern. If bond yields again start to rise, the stock market potentially can again become pressured. 25% of the NASDAQ ended the day lower and 75% higher. This gives a clear indication of the sentiment towards the technology sector and reassures traders about the price movement. Another positive was all of the top 12 influential stocks rose in value. Apple, NVIDIA and Broadcom saw the strongest gains, all rising more than 4%. Producer inflation read slightly lower than expectations, however, the index continues to rise. The Producer Price Index rose from 1.6% to 2.1% and the Core PPI from 2.1% to 2.4%. Therefore, it is not indicating inflation will become easier to tackle in the upcoming months. For this reason, investors should note that inflation and the monetary policy is still a risk and can trigger strong bearish impulse waves. EURUSD – The Euro Declines Against Major Currencies The European Central Bank is attempting to concentrate on the positive factors and give no indications of when the committee may opt to cut rates. For example, President Lagarde advises “sales figures” remain stable, but the issue remains they are stably low. Officials said the decline in prices generally confirms medium-term forecasts and is ensured by a decrease in the cost of food and goods. Most experts continue to believe that the first reduction in interest rates will happen in June, and there may be three or four in total during the year. Due to this, the Euro is declining against all currencies including the Pound, Yen and Swiss Franc. The US Dollar Index on the other hand trades 0.39% higher and is almost trading at a 23-week high. Due to this momentum, the price of the exchange continues to indicate a decline in favor of the US Dollar.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business. Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar. Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding on how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE! Click HERE to READ more Market news. Michalis Efthymiou Market Analyst HMarkets Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in FX and CFDs products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
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