Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

Recommended Posts

Pardon me.

 

I have no real items that I would like from them but a fellow trader was asking about it.

 

Their triggers seems quite good on their youtube videos. Obviously I would like to learn more ABOUT other trader's comments on them and / or their effectiveness.

 

Just a caveat - NOT looking for the holy grail but looking for another potential tool.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pardon me as well.

 

but I have watched some of their videos.

 

So first of, I have a question:

 

I know different kinds of pivots, but excuse me, I am just a little beginner;

 

What are future pivots?

 

 

The more lines you add to your chart, the more often you are right, or wrong.

Some future pivot lines were commented, some other lines, I thought these lines were future pivots too, not. :confused:

Anyway, just lines.

This was all IMO. :helloooo:

 

 

 

Another thing, while it all looks so easy on their charts, on my charts its looks easy too.

 

But real trades are often a different story.

 

Some signals happen within not even a second on my charts,

but after the thought process (??? sec) I need at least 500 ms

until the signal from my brain reaches my finger for the mouse click.

 

And then its needs some more ms's ...

 

Anyway, a further question:

 

Where these videos commented as things happened?

 

Or later? (This one seems to be right, IMO.)

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Hal

 

P.S.: Hindsight, yes we all know, what we have should have done a long time ago.

And pictures, I have a lot of nice charts, but just, I have to sell nothing.

Well, maybe they have something of value, maybe not, but just be careful.

I could present you pictures, and sell you my indicators, but ...

it doesn't not mean that you will make a fortune,

only that I will get your money for my indicators.

 

You know. :missy:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Those lines looks like it has some similarities to the standard Tradestation indicator "Trendlines Automatic" if you ask me ... and pivots calculations can be seen on http://www.mypivots.com ... the blue lines are timing stuff I have not been able to observe and see similarities / where it came from. To put all three together and come up with an indicator may be an accomplishment.

 

Of course, I have not seen or use it ... would like to hear some comments from someone who is an actual user - hopefully a profitable user.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FFTrader, the reason you haven't gotten any responses from users is that the software is brand new, just released earlier this month. Shadowtraders has been around a few years though. I just watched a webinar this morning and the course (with Ninja indicators) looks promising. By the way, entries and exits were being called during live trading.

Edited by nyctrader

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I was there during the live trading event. Still has more questions than answers - but that is just me.

 

Ask them. If satisfactory answers are not forthcoming move swiftly on. :)

 

Edit: Fixed based on Tams advice!

Edited by BlowFish

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Yes I would like more info on shadowtraders.com.

 

Stay clear of this mess. Shadow traders has changed methods, systems, approaches, charts and just about everthing at least 4 times in the years I have known about them. How you can find a decent clear clean signal on their charts is beyond me. In the world of absolutely uselss information, they rank up there with the worse of them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
What are those indicators being used?

 

Is there a live trading room for it for trial?

 

Hi MoreYummy, I started this thread because a fellow trader asked me to join with her and I have since decided not to. I think there is a trading room, however. I am not quite sure what indicators they use per se but I think they do use key support and resistance as part of their setup based on the free trial I saw.

 

:) I am not an experienced trader and still struggling. As such, as of this moment, I cannot say for sure whether their stuff works or not - FOR YOU. What I do have control on and starting to get into a habit of is to trade my own setup. The key - and most recent - milestone for me is that I am able to avoid large drawdowns. I trade with two fairly standard indicators basically - a momentum indicator and an oscillator. That's it. Other considerations I use are purely subjective opinions I have base on my experiences so that part of it may vary depending on who you are.

 

More experienced traders here and elsewhere may agree with me that there is nothing new under the sun - and there is no holy grail. In other words, keep searching for something you like while try to come up with something you are comfortable with.

 

Hope the above helps.

 

Thanks,

FFTrader

Edited by FFTrader
Editing typing error

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Does anyone know what pivot point formulas the Shadow Traders use? They say there are 19 pivot points. They are fairly tightly compressed together with 9 or 10 within the span of regular R1 to S1. Can anyone reproduce them?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I 've been reading thru this thread and I am unable to tell if there has been one person that has actually taken the course, loaded their indicators in NJ, gone to their chatroom for 3 months, tried to improve on their simulator data for 1 or2 months.

 

Obviously, they add and subtract indicators, but a person can tell that by viewing the You Tube videos. Though I believe they have stayed with basically same ones according to the videos I have been able to see for last 1. 4 years at least.

 

Look, has any person had and experience with the System, first hand? If you did, state if you have, and tell of your experience. If you have not, state that first. So we know it just some outsider opinion.

 

This is ridiculous. I am trying decide between this and 3 other programs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Although I have yet to purchase the program, I DO PLAN TO. Also allow me to tell you that I have met a 70 year old man personally who actually introduced me to the program and he works 10min in the market with about 10 contracts making about 2,500/day. I asked him why not spend all day? He stated cause hes retired and just havin fun with his life. Trust me, I do not know the other programs, but he strongly recommended shadow traders.

 

Also out of curiousity what other programs are you researching as well?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Also here is a follow up post because since the last one I have purchased the program and please, allow me to enlighten all of you curious individuals.

 

First, when you BUY the program you'll be introduced to all of their strategies and how they work, nothing is kept secret. Not only that but when you attend the live classes with Melanie Sonn you'll see that she is extremely active in answering student's questions. As a matter of fact when you first enter she'll ask, how has everyone traded today? "Did any of you guys make over 200 tickets of profit on just 1 contract?" AKA $2,500 in the 6E market (excluding commissions), with commissions it all depends but you could see yourself lose only about $25 in commissions which is flat out nothing. :haha:

 

You'll find out that almost 90% of the chatroom is almost "praising" her methods of trading because nearly everyone in the room is successful. For the other 10%, all of them are new traders and she ensures them to just to keep studying. (AKA 3 weeks ago I was loosing trades, and now my winning trades are about 95% of the time)

 

I love how people have been bashing something that they have no clue about, neither have they purchased the program. I saw someone post an image of some of the indicators from the package, and please.... thats about 1/4th of them not to mention with what they give you, IF YOU can READ your indicators and trade the way YOUR SUPPOST to, psh I can assure you that some people in this program with 99% of the time with their trades, and that is not a BS statistic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a bit of a problem with replies like the ones above...to me something is wrong with this picture.

First of all, I could care less whether a "70 year old man" is trading for 10 minutes and making thousands of dollars....that to me sounds suspicious right off the bat...who is that naive that they believe that kind of statement? Follow that right away with a glowing review from the same person (with 3 posts)....I am more likely to believe the earlier comments from folks who participate here on a regular basis...

Finally, after many years of trading on both sides of the fence (as an amateur and as a professional) If there was a way to make thousands of dollars in 10 minutes on a consistent basis, I think I would have heard about it by now..its a job and a profession folks...it takes work, skill, talent, perseverance, and more... and (like golf) still makes you crazy on certain days...the rest of the commentary just isn't realistic in my judgement.

 

I can think of several alternatives

 

Best Regards

Steve

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I have a bit of a problem with replies like the ones above...to me something is wrong with this picture.

First of all, I could care less whether a "70 year old man" is trading for 10 minutes and making thousands of dollars....that to me sounds suspicious right off the bat...who is that naive that they believe that kind of statement? Follow that right away with a glowing review from the same person (with 3 posts)....I am more likely to believe the earlier comments from folks who participate here on a regular basis...

Finally, after many years of trading on both sides of the fence (as an amateur and as a professional) If there was a way to make thousands of dollars in 10 minutes on a consistent basis, I think I would have heard about it by now..its a job and a profession folks...it takes work, skill, talent, perseverance, and more... and (like golf) still makes you crazy on certain days...the rest of the commentary just isn't realistic in my judgement.

 

I can think of several alternatives

 

Best Regards

Steve

 

I am confused with this post, because it lacks two things. Firstly, you are making an assumption about something that you have never tried. How can you judge something which you are not a part of... Secondly, you are using your past experiences to judge something, well maybe you do not know everything there is to know about the market... If you knew everything about the market, you'd be worth trillions. There is always room to learn something else...

 

Now this was the most confusing part for me considering the fact that you stated, "If there was a way to make thousands of dollars in 10 minutes on a consistent basis, I think I would have heard about it by now.." Well, to me this confuses me or strikes me as kind of confusing; the reason I say this is confusing is because anybody that trades in the futures market KNOWS for a solid fact that if you traded at 5 contracts of the 6E market 16 ticks is all you need (17 if you count commissions) is all you need to make a thousand dollars. You need 16 ticks going in the direction you wanted it to go, if you went long or short. Please don't take this as a bash, please respond to this, because it does make me curious as to how you said you have no idea about how someone could make a thousand dollars in 10min. Anybody that trades futures would know this is possible to gain 1000 or lose thousand in 10min. It works both ways, this program shows an investor simply how to have more successful trades then losing trades.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Date: 11th July 2025.   Demand For Gold Rises As Trump Announces Tariffs!   Gold prices rose significantly throughout the week as investors took advantage of the 2.50% lower entry level. Investors also return to the safe-haven asset as the US trade policy continues to escalate. As a result, investors are taking a more dovish tone. The ‘risk-off’ appetite is also something which can be seen within the stock market. The NASDAQ on Thursday took a 0.90% dive within only 30 minutes.   Trade Tensions Escalate President Trump has been teasing with new tariffs throughout the week. However, the tariffs were confirmed on Thursday. A 35% tariff on Canadian imports starting August 1st, along with 50% tariffs on copper and goods from Brazil. Some experts are advising that Brazil has been specifically targeted due to its association with the BRICS.   However, the President has not directly associated the tariffs with BRICS yet. According to President Trump, Brazil is targeting US technology companies and carrying out a ‘witch hunt’against former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, a close ally who is currently facing prosecution for allegedly attempting to overturn the 2022 Brazilian election.   Although Brazil is one of the largest and fastest-growing economies in the Americas, it is not the main concern for investors. Investors are more concerned about Tariffs on Canada. The White House said it will impose a 35% tariff on Canadian imports, effective August 1st, raised from the earlier 25% rate. This covers most goods, with exceptions under USMCA and exemptions for Canadian companies producing within the US.   It is also vital for investors to note that Canada is among the US;’s top 3 trading partners. The increase was justified by Trump citing issues like the trade deficit, Canada’s handling of fentanyl trafficking, and perceived unfair trade practices.   The President is also threatening new measures against the EU. These moves caused US and European stock futures to fall nearly 1%, while the Dollar rose and commodity prices saw small gains. However, the main benefactor was Silver and Gold, which are the two best-performing metals of the day.   How Will The Fed Impact Gold? The FOMC indicated that the number of members warming up to the idea of interest rate cuts is increasing. If the Fed takes a dovish tone, the price of Gold may further rise. In the meantime, the President pushing for a 3% rate cut sparked talk of a more dovish Fed nominee next year and raised worries about future inflation.   Meanwhile, jobless claims dropped for the fourth straight week, coming in better than expected and supporting the view that the labour market remains strong after last week’s solid payroll report. Markets still expect two rate cuts this year, but rate futures show most investors see no change at the next Fed meeting. Gold is expected to finish the week mostly flat.       Gold 15-Minute Chart     If the price of Gold increases above $3,337.50, buy signals are likely to materialise again. However, the price is currently retracing, meaning traders are likely to wait for regained momentum before entering further buy trades. According to HSBC, they expect an average price of $3,215 in 2025 (up from $3,015) and $3,125 in 2026, with projections showing a volatile range between $3,100 and $3,600   Key Takeaway Points: Gold Rises on Safe-Haven Demand. Gold gained as investors reacted to rising trade tensions and market volatility. Canada Tariffs Spark Concern. A 35% tariff on Canadian imports drew attention due to Canada’s key trade role. Fed Dovish Shift Supports Gold. Growing expectations of rate cuts and Trump’s push for a 3% cut boosted the gold outlook. Gold Eyes Breakout Above $3,337.5. Price is consolidating; a move above $3,337.50 could trigger new buy signals. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Michalis Efthymiou HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • Back in the early 2000s, Netflix mailed DVDs to subscribers.   It wasn’t sexy—but it was smart. No late fees. No driving to Blockbuster.   People subscribed because they were lazy. Investors bought the stock because they realized everyone else is lazy too.   Those who saw the future in that red envelope? They could’ve caught a 10,000%+ move.   Another story…   Back in the mid-2000s, Amazon launched Prime.   It wasn’t flashy—but it was fast.   Free two-day shipping. No minimums. No hassle.   People subscribed because they were impatient. Investors bought the stock because they realized everyone hates waiting.   Those who saw the future in that speedy little yellow button? They could’ve caught another 10,000%+ move.   Finally…   Back in 2011, Bitcoin was trading under $10.   It wasn’t regulated—but it worked.   No bank. No middleman. Just wallet to wallet.   People used it to send money. Investors bought it because they saw the potential.   Those who saw something glimmering in that strange orange coin? They could’ve caught a 100,000%+ move.   The people who made those calls weren’t fortune tellers. They just noticed something simple before others did.   A better way. A quiet shift. A small edge. An asymmetric bet.   The red envelope fixed late fees. The yellow button fixed waiting. The orange coin gave billions a choice.   Of course, these types of gains are rare. And they happen only once in a blue moon. That’s exactly why it’s important to notice when the conditions start to look familiar.   Not after the move. Not once it's on CNBC. But in the quiet build-up— before the surface breaks.   Enter the Blue Button Please read more here: https://altucherconfidential.com/posts/netflix-amazon-bitcoin-blue  Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/ 
    • What These Attacks Look Like There are several ways you could get hacked. And the threats compound by the day.   Here’s a quick rundown:   Phishing: Fake emails from your “bank.” Click the link, give your password—game over.   Ransomware: Malware that locks your files and demands crypto. Pay up, or it’s gone.   DDoS: Overwhelm a website with traffic until it crashes. Like 10,000 bots blocking the door. Often used by nations.   Man-in-the-Middle: Hackers intercept your messages on public WiFi and read or change them.   Social Engineering: Hackers pose as IT or drop infected USB drives labeled “Payroll.”   You don’t need to be “important” to be a target.   You just need to be online.   What You Can Do (Without Buying a Bunker) You don’t have to be tech-savvy.   You just need to stop being low-hanging fruit.   Here’s how:   Use a YubiKey (physical passkey device) or Authenticator app – Ditch text message 2FA. SIM swaps are real. Hackers often have people on the inside at telecom companies.   Use a password manager (with Yubikey) – One unique password per account. Stop using your dog’s name.   Update your devices – Those annoying updates patch real security holes. Use them.   Back up your files – If ransomware hits, you don’t want your important documents held hostage.   Avoid public WiFi for sensitive stuff – Or use a VPN.   Think before you click – Emails that feel “urgent” are often fake. Go to the websites manually for confirmation.   Consider Starlink in case the internet goes down – I think it’s time for me to make the leap. Don’t Panic. Prepare. (Then Invest.)   I spent an hour in that basement bar reading about cyberattacks—and watching real-world systems fall apart like dominos.   The internet going down used to be an inconvenience. Now, it’s a warning.   Cyberwar isn’t coming. It’s here.   And the next time your internet goes out, it might not just be your router.   Don’t panic. Prepare.   And maybe keep a backup plan in your back pocket. Like a local basement bar with good bourbon—and working WiFi.   As usual, we’re on the lookout for more opportunities in cybersecurity. Stay tuned.   Author: Chris Campbell (AltucherConfidential) Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/   
    • DUMBSHELL:  re the automation of corruption ---  200,000 "Science Papers" in academic journal database PubMed may have been AI-generated with errors, hallucinations and false sourcing 
    • Does any crypto exchanges get banned in your country? How's about other as Bybit, Kraken, MEXC, OKX?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.