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Old 12-01-2009, 05:53 AM   #1

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Can You Pair Trade Using VWAP?

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I read quite a bit on another board about intra-day pair trading using VWAP. One needs to plot VWAP and MPD bands (max deviation) and the high level concept is to SHORT a stock at Upper MPD and LONG a stock at lower MPB (with correct Position Sizing).

In theory, this approach should create a market neutral strategy so market direction is eliminated.

I was wondering if anyone can add any 'meat to the bones'?

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Re: Can You Pair Trade Using VWAP?

price is mean reverting generally - when its not mean reverting it is creating a new mean.

ie. knowing when the shift is occuring is pretty important so you aren't waiting for ever for a reversion to occur...
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You might enjoy the trading with market statistics threads. Whilst they don't deal with pairs specifically they give a fairly comprehensive coverage of VWAPs and standard deviations of it.
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Re: Can You Pair Trade Using VWAP?

This was a strategy of Grey1 who has posted on here previously. One of the key elements is that it should only be used on trading days that are not trending and the way in which Grey1 suggested this be done is to see if the Dow opened at less than 50 points from the previous close. If so then the vwap pair trades were an option.


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Re: Can You Pair Trade Using VWAP?

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This was a strategy of Grey1 who has posted on here previously. One of the key elements is that it should only be used on trading days that are not trending and the way in which Grey1 suggested this be done is to see if the Dow opened at less than 50 points from the previous close. If so then the vwap pair trades were an option.
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That's an interesting, simple way to gauge a trending day or not. Has there been any statistical study done to confirm this?
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That's an interesting, simple way to gauge a trending day or not. Has there been any statistical study done to confirm this?
I don't know but the strategy worked well.


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I don't know but the strategy worked well.


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Worked - as in past tense? Or 'still working' as in present tense?
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This was a strategy of Grey1 who has posted on here previously. One of the key elements is that it should only be used on trading days that are not trending and the way in which Grey1 suggested this be done is to see if the Dow opened at less than 50 points from the previous close. If so then the vwap pair trades were an option.


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I assume that this is on the basis that if the Dow opened at less than +/- 50 points of the previous close, there is no strong conviction to either continue in the direction it was going on the previous day or to reverse direction.

If there is no strong conviction either way then the assumption would be that we have a consolidation day and therefore pair trading would be a viable option. The basic concept then being to trade with reversion to mean vwap.

If on the other hand the day exhibits trending characteristics then a directional trade that enters near vwap and exits at the MPD bands would be in order, but based on stocks chosen as exhibiting the appropriate strength or weakness with respect to the market according to the market direction being taken.

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