[dkm]

Drawing "correct" gaussians continues to be a headache. Unsure as to when this morning's B2B actually ended (i.e. we have arrived at p2). Now thinking that maybe 11:20 is the real p2. Unsure what to do regarding the gaussians at any level through the lat from 11:20. I think a gaussian lesson or two is in order.

[Tams]

Regarding fractals...
You can find this post on the first page of this thread...
http://www.traderslaboratory.com/for...html#post70030

Originally Posted by Spydertrader »

Trend Lines

Accurately drawn trend lines in a chart Price Pane represent ‘containers’ of trend on the three trading fractals. We represent the fastest trading fractal using skinny lines (described as ‘tapes’) which, in turn, build the next slower fractal (represented by ‘medium’ weight lines) – known as a Traverse. These Medium fast trends (Traverses) build the slowest fractal (thick line weight) known as a ‘channel.’



To Be Continued ...

- Spydertrader

[nkhoi]

interesting, fractal analysis DotComPreneur.com > Landing Page Template

[ljyoung]

A question for Spyder (or as always, anyone else who believes they know the answer).

If what romanus has discerned is correct (and IMO, it is), that for 5 min ES players, there must be FTT's at points 1, 2, and 3, then is it likewise correct to say that all of the FTT's, at points 1, 2, and 3, must demonstrate a FTT of ALL of the components of 'the tape' associated with each point?

What I mean by ALL of the components is this.

For the 5 min ES traverse trader, the fastest trading fractal, on the ES 5 min fixed time fractal, is the 2 bar tape. Expert level traders can do the 'intrabar' thingy but the traverse trader should by and large leave that stuff alone, for a later time, if you will. As we all know there are trading fractals (aka 'goats' and such) which lie 'between' the 2 bar tape and the traverse. For the purposes of this discussion, you have simplified matters by gathering all of these non-traverse fractals into a single fractal which is called 'the tape'.

Thus when one turns a corner at points 1, 2, and 3, it seems logical that if the trader has correctly mapped the path to the point, then there must be a FTT of the entire tape and if there isn't an FTT of the entire tape then you don't have, as yet, a point 1, 2, or 3. So if you have a FTT of the 2 bar tape but don't have a FTT of one of the 'goats', then you have to wait until you do have a FTT of the 2 bar tape and all of the goats.

Is this 'all or none' Boolean kind of thing correct?

lj

[TIKITRADER]

Spyder,

You have mentioned many times we need to place focus in the volume.

It is those pace lines that probably play a big role in the importance of point 1 and point 3 in volume
Those points will be seen as the valleys (troughs ) in volume and the pace levels will be most likely different when a b2b or r2r forms, and if we were to compare that pace level to when a point 3 valley forms.

If so, after point 1 valley forms we should look for a change in pace for the point 3 valley. One completed, then look for a pace change from a point 3 valley to the next trough at point of change.

So should we be placing focus on the valleys and their pace levels ( or pace increases ) at points 1 and points 3 ?

[Spydertrader]

Originally Posted by TIKITRADER »

So should we be placing focus on the valleys and their pace levels ( or pace increases ) at points 1 and points 3 ?

While noting the various Pace changes might help someone to see what I have described in this thread, plenty of other, more critical, information exists, other than, observing Pace transitioning across pink, red, blue and green lines.

- Spydertrader

[TIKITRADER]

Originally Posted by Spydertrader »

While noting the various Pace changes might help someone to see what I have described in this thread, plenty of other, more critical, information exists, other than, observing Pace transitioning across pink, red, blue and green lines.

- Spydertrader

In this method volume is used a number of ways.

Spyder, if I have missed something here would you please inform me.


1 ) Volume per 5 minute bar

2) Increasing volume compared to last 5 minute bar

2) Decreasing volume compared to last 5 minute bar

4) Increasing volume throughout a fractal

5) Decreasing volume throught a fractal

6) Increasing - decreasing - increasing volume to build a fractal

7) Pace Levels

8) Pace acceleration

9) Pace deceleration

9) Acceleration - deceleration - acceleration to build a fractal

10) Dry up pace volume

11) Medium pace volume

12) Fast pace volume

13) Extreme pace volume

14) Peak volume

15) Peaks

16 ) Troughs

17) Multiple fractal build

18) Gaussian

19) Intra bar Gaussian shift

20) B2B

21) R2R

22) B2R

23) R2B

24) B2B 2R 2B

25) R2R 2B 2R

26) Pro rata volume

27) 81 bars of - 5 minute volume

28) Volume relation to price

[Spydertrader]

Originally Posted by TIKITRADER »

28)

That's some list you have there.

However, I encourage everyone to keep this process as simple as possible.

For example, those who focus making decisions and taking action at the end of a bar, have no need for Pro-Rata Volume (a calculation which anticipates future, at end of bar, Volume as a function Current Volume [now]). One observes PRV while learning to transition from 'taking action' at end of bar to taking action intra-bar.

Some other things (on your list) give the appearance of redundancy.

In other words, no need to focus on a laundry list of items.

- Spydertrader