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Old 03-14-2010, 05:23 PM   #1641

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Re: The Price / Volume Relationship

On a random topic, when anyone here is drawing Traverse and Channel lines, do you find you have to first have an annotated chart for the last several days? And then you squeeze your chart time setting so 2-5 days all fit on the screen at once, and only then annotate your Channel lines (and sometimes Traverses too if the Tapes that day are long-lasting)?

I find it very difficult to analyze Channel (and often Traverse) trend lines without "zooming out", was just curious if I am doing this completely incorrectly or this is what is commonly done.

On another topic, I've been playing with the new TN Gap Elimination Tool as well as constant trendline angle tool, and these are huge timesavers! Thanks to Spydertrader and anyone else who worked on this. I do have one feedback item (might be something I'm doing wrong), after a new day starts and the overnight gap is eliminated, my previous annotations don't get adjusted so they are off. I'm hoping there is a way for me to grab these annotations and move them up/down all at once to compensate, got to tinker with it some more. The new tools are a big help though!
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On a random topic, when anyone here is drawing Traverse and Channel lines, do you find you have to first have an annotated chart for the last several days? And then you squeeze your chart time setting so 2-5 days all fit on the screen at once, and only then annotate your Channel lines (and sometimes Traverses too if the Tapes that day are long-lasting)? snip....

I'm hoping there is a way for me to grab these annotations and move them up/down all at once to compensate, got to tinker with it some more. The new tools are a big help though!
I squeeze the chart setting too, but only to fill in past traverses, channels. Not during the trading day. Sometimes even changing it to a 10 or 15 min. The issue is when deleting past annotations to keep TN from bogging down. Depending on where we're at I may need several days of channels or traverses to keep my bearings.

A nice tool would be to be able to select certain days, or use a box to select areas to delete annotations. Instead of only being able to delete everything. That said, the newer version of TN doesn't seem to be as bad and I've gone a couple weeks before deleting annotations. If you haven't upgraded in a while it's worth it, plus getting the new tools.

Regarding moving prior annotations with the gap removal, I was under the impression they were working on it - but don't hold your breath.

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One little glitch when using the freeze slope tool. It works fine for trend lines. But if you use TN's trend channel, sometimes the channel will rotate at a fast rate, instead of extending/shortening. If it does that use the end of the other trend line instead.

There's no rhyme or reason, sometimes the LTL does it, sometimes the RTL. And it's not the top or bottom one consistently. Couldn't nail down any consistent pattern. So if grabbing one line is a problem, use the other.
Hi Ezzy,

In order to lengthen a trend channel without changing the slope, ctrl-click on the first line you drew when annotating the channel, not the cloned line. If you click on the cloned line, you'll get the rotating effect. Usually the trend channel is created by first drawing an RTL, but keep in mind that when you draw a tape to a stitch or OB, the trend channel will be created by first drawing an LTL. This is probably why you didn't see a consistent pattern.

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Hi Ezzy,

In order to lengthen a trend channel without changing the slope, ctrl-click on the first line you drew when annotating the channel, not the cloned line. If you click on the cloned line, you'll get the rotating effect. Usually the trend channel is created by first drawing an RTL, but keep in mind that when you draw a tape to a stitch or OB, the trend channel will be created by first drawing an LTL. This is probably why you didn't see a consistent pattern.
That could be it. I usually use the Channel tool for the real small tapes, stitches or taping to OB. That would flip flop the control line.

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Hi Ezzy and everyone who is interested in PV relationship,

Please see the attachment. I have 2 questions regarding the ES chart---

1) If the sequence of Blue container stops on 10:50 (close of) bar, how could the X be the point 1 of Pink Container?

2) Assumed both Blue and Pink containers are correctly annotated, how could Y (inside Blue container ) be the pt 2 in geometrical sense and Z be the real pt 2 of Pink container? TIA
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