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Old 05-17-2009, 08:13 PM   #1

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MA Cross and Ranging Day Whipsaws

I like 15 and 50 EMA Macross but this system tend to generate whipsaws on ranging day. Is there a way to make this thing works on a ranging day?. I have tried MA cross with ADX (an indicator to evaluate the strength of a current trend) and only enter a trade if the ma cross is confirmed by ADX > 25 , but this doesn't seem to be working.

Can MA Cross be used profitably on a ranging day and how to reduce whipsaws on a ranging day?.

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Re: MA Cross and Ranging Day Whipsaws

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I like 15 and 50 EMA Macross but this system tend to generate whipsaws on ranging day. Is there a way to make this thing works on a ranging day?. I have tried MA cross with ADX (an indicator to evaluate the strength of a current trend) and only enter a trade if the ma cross is confirmed by ADX > 25 , but this doesn't seem to be working.
Can MA Cross be used profitably on a ranging day and how to reduce whipsaws on a ranging day?.
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can you give some examples?

can you post a chart with annotation at places where the signal was not working?

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Re: MA Cross and Ranging Day Whipsaws

Here it is Tams , please take a close look at the highlighted sections. What I want to accomplish is to remove false/weak buy/sell signals
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Here it is Tams , please take a close look at the highlighted sections. What I want to accomplish is to remove false/weak buy/sell signals

I don't see any ADX there.
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Re: MA Cross and Ranging Day Whipsaws

Tried dozens of trend/momentum indicators today with ema cross ... none work satisfactorily ... I however found out that EMA cross works better when used along side with trend lines ... ohhh the search for financial freedom through trading is really tedious. Hopefully this will work this time.
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Re: MA Cross and Ranging Day Whipsaws

I can't see a problem with the chart you posted. With suitable money management that looks like a highly profitable day to me?
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Re: MA Cross and Ranging Day Whipsaws

Just tried it at demo account .. buying and selling solely using MA Cross can be disastrous . I have now included volume and mini/medium trend/counter trend lines , much more reliable result now. I noticed that even in a rangin day there are usually small/medium sizxed trend lines .
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Re: MA Cross and Ranging Day Whipsaws

Sure, however the chart you posted certainly looks like the winners would offset the losers. The first red box you highlight doesn't even seem to have a cross. It looks about 50 50 win/loss with maybe a scratch and a couple of winners that are of (comparatively) greater magnitude. The reason I ask this is I wonder what your expectations are from such an approach?

The characteristics of 'traditional trend following systems' (of which MA crosses and channel break outs are) is that you might have quite a few losers which are offset by the fewer but larger winners. If you start filtering you can change the parameters but you will filter good trades too.
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