[mitsubishi]

Originally Posted by MightyMouse »

It is a very close macro description of recent times; however you omitted the fact that while our parents were critical of us getting away with things they could not get away with, they were busy setting up social healthcare and retirement benefits for themselves that they did not have the money to pay for, deciding, instead, to leave the burden of paying for it on others.

Meanwhile, grandpa can get a new heartvalve to keep him alive to enjoy his state of dementia without his estate paying a dime. What would the holidays be like without grandpa sitting at the table, staring aimlessly at the center piece?

Quite.
Course,when i was in my 20's i always imagined i would've died a glamorous death,leaving a beautiful corpse by now.
Yet here i am getting peanuts thrown at me from the gallery.Personally i hope i won't overstay to the bitter end.
But now that i'm more like my old man than ever (and at 79 he still looks about 60 ) we tend to get along much better than the day he kicked me outta the house for shaving my eyebrows off in an attempt to turn myself into Ziggy Stardust.
If it wasn't for guys a shade older than him strapping themselves into spitfires,i might have been born into a very different world. But he certainly had a much tougher life than me.
A lot of what goes on in this world is done with best intentions. I certainly am not attacking that. Its the slugs and the bunnies i got a problem with...

And what i find worrying in this enlightened age of the internet,is that things seem to be getting rapidly worse,not better.May be the scales will tip the other way at some point,but we'll probably be long dead by then....or ''staring aimlessly at the centre piece''

Maybe our estates should be liquidated to pay for the healthcare instead of being inherited
Just a thought

[zdo]

This thread certainly has taken the blunders off the trading mind!
Thanks all. Great job.
Have a wonderful weekend.

If a psychologist "showed up at my door", I'd hire her on the spot... she's also a psychic...

[Rande Howell]

I encourage readers of this forum go back and re-read the article I posted that has prompted this discourse. When you read it, really notice what I am saying about beliefs and feeling and their impact on perception and the creation of a particular reality. Particularly the way they co-mingle and produce a certainty of belief in what ever direction that the emotion is taking them THAT IS NON-NEGOTIABLE. Then read, from these eyes, this thread. It is really fascinating. What I notice is that the direction of the discourse is not about observing the impact beliefs and the feeling element of an emotion has on our trading or our lives. No, this discourse is about being fused to beliefs and feelings that take us for a ride without our ever really knowing it -- so consumed by the fire of the emotion. Now apply that to trading.

Rande Howell

[RealDemo]

Wow! Rande you still yanking at them blinkers?

Originally Posted by mitsubishi »

If it wasn't for guys a shade older than him strapping themselves into spitfires,i might have been born into a very different world.

... recently I saw an article about a 'health and safety' issue concerning old Spitfire pilots....it would have you breathing flames mitzy, I can't post the link for fear it may induce an aneurysm.

I grew up in the seventies too, and apart from some quite awesome musical talent knocking around.....oh and the motorways were empty...... it was pretty s#it.

There's the US kicking Vietnamese and Cambodian ass, Watergate, then the Arabs and Jews had a war yeah, a real one not just blowing raspberries. The IRA was blowing up stuff, the cold war, the cod war, two Germanys, inflation hitting a mighty 24%, stagflation! 3 day weeks, oil crisis, and no TV after 10:30pm.....

The end of that decade culminated in countrywide industrial action that had rubbish piled up to the second floor and grave diggers not digging graves.

...ahhh happy days

(I apologise for any facts that may have spoiled this post)

[mitsubishi]

Originally Posted by Rande Howell »

I encourage readers of this forum go back and re-read the article I posted that has prompted this discourse. When you read it, really notice what I am saying about beliefs and feeling and their impact on perception and the creation of a particular reality. Particularly the way they co-mingle and produce a certainty of belief in what ever direction that the emotion is taking them THAT IS NON-NEGOTIABLE. Then read, from these eyes, this thread. It is really fascinating. What I notice is that the direction of the discourse is not about observing the impact beliefs and the feeling element of an emotion has on our trading or our lives. No, this discourse is about being fused to beliefs and feelings that take us for a ride without our ever really knowing it -- so consumed by the fire of the emotion. Now apply that to trading.

Rande Howell

I did.Works fine.
I can see why therapy could take years.I realise that the mind may be harder to diagnose than the body...but wow...satire folks,in it's every form is NON-NEGOTIABLE.
How about your fee? how negotiable is that? 'Cos i reckon it could take 5 years to find the right can opener for my can of worms let alone find a prognosis i could live with.
There's no certainty in markets,and the only certainty in life is death (which is not negotiable) If that statement is true,then yours cannot be true.

I would urge readers to ignore Randes advice to re-read the article for the reason i stated on page 1 of this thread.
Your assertion that emotion clouds judgement,while often true in life,wont re-write history (only the slugs and bunnies have that power)

Do folks here see how these experts work? A few short years ago psychology was a theory and was treated (no pun intended) much the way most people view alternative medicine. So how have these experts managed to convince some of us that the theory is now a science? Just what,or more importantly ''who is taking us for a ride? I'll tell you how.
Because psychology doesn't threaten the bunnies and slugs,especially the bunnies,who use it to promote their agenda. So now we have things like Attention deficit disorder which does not even exist.But if we have it,we need to cure it.The slugs will do that job-not alternative medicine which is resolutely ridiculed and ignored by the medical profession How Orwellian is that?
Whereas alternative medicine is a serious threat to the slugs in the same way that alternative fuel is to Shell and BP. (2 slugs) psychology can,and has been harnessed and used for the weapons division in the same way as Ripleys' Alien would have been.
I TOLD YOU THE BUNNY THAT LIVED DOWN THIS HOLE WOULD GET SCARIER

[mitsubishi]

Originally Posted by RealDemo »

Wow! Rande you still yanking at them blinkers?



... recently I saw an article about a 'health and safety' issue concerning old Spitfire pilots....it would have you breathing flames mitzy, I can't post the link for fear it may induce an aneurysm.

I grew up in the seventies too, and apart from some quite awesome musical talent knocking around.....oh and the motorways were empty...... it was pretty s#it.

There's the US kicking Vietnamese and Cambodian ass, Watergate, then the Arabs and Jews had a war yeah, a real one not just blowing raspberries. The IRA was blowing up stuff, the cold war, the cod war, two Germanys, inflation hitting a mighty 24%, stagflation! 3 day weeks, oil crisis, and no TV after 10:30pm.....

The end of that decade culminated in countrywide industrial action that had rubbish piled up to the second floor and grave diggers not digging graves.

...ahhh happy days

(I apologise for any facts that may have spoiled this post)

Actually.he would prefer that we keep them on

[mitsubishi]

Get your popcorn,get your beer and settle in folks.I said i wasn't done yet and i'm not. Not by a friggin' looong way

I just need to go down to supplies and get a few magazines for my psycho babble sensing defenders
I reckon i got the good old doc on the back foot here.He is using the tactic that guys like him always use.
Unlike the Bush 'n' Blair pony show where they just batter your logic into submission by slowly eroding your democratic rights and selling your chamber of democracy to Europe,the Good old doc reckons the quiet measured tones repeating the same old dogma will sound just familiar enough to convince you i'm a conspiracy freak who is beyond help.Some of you already believe that.For some,to quote Pink Floyd, i am''only coming through in waves''
They got this act down to a tee.I guarantee that ,just as 90% losers in the market don't geddit,there will be plenty on the docs' side here. You know why? Because it's the safe and comfy option.Humans feel happy herded together-even herded in misery beats misery in isolation,no?

Notice how Rande never engages in any of the many facets of my debate? My view of history and how the world works is just ignored,with the implication that it's all just a symptom of my psychosis.- Fact or not a fact? Remember how he answered a direct question and said the answer was not for me (it was for all the ''normal folks'') I gave him long enough- True or not true? SO...
Pay close attention to any attempt on his part to now redress the situation that HE created.
If i was him, i would be completely destroying all my arguments. Notice how he leaves as little as possible to argue with.There is no sense of the real person there.These guys HIDE
They hide right in front of you folks,and they get away with it too.You know how?
I'll tell you how
Psycho babble. Its called PROFESSIONALISM- now you can be professional when you're trading,but when you come here,let's talk or not bother at all.So my word is HIDING

[mitsubishi]

How do you get things done?

Or how do you get the sheep to repeat the mantra?
Let's take global warming.If i had a big fear about our role as a threat to the planet i would do all i could to reduce that threat- DO THEY?
Or is money more important and business as usual.?
Lead by example or just shut the hell up period 'cos i'm not interested.And i'm not impressed by rich c,,,,s....k ..s who jet around the world enriching themselves while way down the chain delta minus types threaten to fine me for putting the wrong substance in the wrong bin.

Divide and Rule.
SO,enter the delta minus types.You know who these people are.They are the guys repeating in a calm dogmatic robot voice '' i'm sorry sir you can't park here...i'm sorry sir you.... PROFESSIONALISM.... HIDING
Hiding behind the bullshit dogma that is designed for your own good by the Bunnies,the guys who only have your best interests at heart when it comes to protecting you from the dangerous world which they created.
Give anyone on the lower end of the self entitlement trend a uniform and the results will Always..always be this predictable.If the law says they have to escort you to the gallows for smoking a reefer,then a delta minus type will always...always do the escorting.You won't see the good old doc there.His case file will already be gathering dust in a filing cabinet in some slightly higher up morons office.
Once the bunnies have established in law that you're a' threat to society' (them) You are screwed.
However,almost without exception,if you are a Bunnie or a Slug it is extremely unlikely you will face the inside of a prison.
The demographic of the prison population figures ARE NON NEGOTIABLE True or not true?

And now we understand why psychology can't fix this..it is a symptom of the problem not part of the solution.