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Old 04-30-2008, 11:30 AM   #17

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does any one has MP indicator for metratrader ? MT4 format
we have one but no ones can explain how it works the starting range are scalpers the second reange are short time traders third range long time traders all on histo
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Care to define a Virgin Point of Control? I am afraid i am not sure what it means by " POC not being touched by prices"
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Care to define a Virgin Point of Control? I am afraid i am not sure what it means by " POC not being touched by prices"
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A Virgin Point of Control (VPOC) is a POC that didn't get touched on the day and then turns into a VPOC, see attached pic of a VPOC and see how price reacted.

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does any one has MP indicator for metratrader ? MT4 format
we have one but no ones can explain how it works the starting range are scalpers the second reange are short time traders third range long time traders all on histo
Bit late, but check out this post:

http://www.traderslaboratory.com/for...60-post27.html
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Good information in this thread. Anyone looking for education about Market Profile should check out Alexander Trading. They are not your average online trading educator, they teach you the mechanics and realities of trading.
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Good information in this thread. Anyone looking for education about Market Profile should check out Alexander Trading. They are not your average online trading educator, they teach you the mechanics and realities of trading.
He is a regular member here. Handle: Alleyb
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He is a regular member here. Handle: Alleyb

Hi OAC,

Alleyb is Alex Benjamin runs www.tradingclinic.com , if I'm not wrong.

Watched a couple of webinars held by him and found these interesting.


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I have created a list of market profile trading concepts. Please feel free to add more:

1. Opening Price: If the opening price is higher or lower than the previous days close this creates a gap on a price chart. In market profile, this gap represents a shift in market sentiment. Like all gap, the greater the gap the more its significant. For example, a market gapping up 80 points on a CCI economical news has alot more significance than a market gapping up on 30 points with no news and light premarket volume. The first gap has a chance of being a contiunation gap while the latter one has a high probability of a gap fill.

2. Opening Price in relation to the value area: Here is a rank of market balance vs market imbalance. If price opens above/below value and the previous days range, this creates a complete market imbalance. This offers a high risk but high reward trading opportunity. If price opens above/below value but within the previous days range this indicates a market imbalance but not as significant as the earlier example. This creates a medium risk and medium reward trading opportunity. If price opens within value and within the previous days range, this indicates a complete market balance. Unless price extends above/below value, this creates a low risk but low reward trading opportunity.

3. Previous days close in relation to todays open: Any late afernoon rally or decline can mean two things: either the longer time frame participant has stepped in to buy/sell aggressively or the short term traders are liquidating their position. To understand the difference is crucial. For example, let's say the previous days late afternoon market action was a rally and price closed at the upper extreme of its range. This could indicate a short covering which fueled a rally or actual longer-time frame buyers stepping in. The opening price action is crucial to understanding this. If prices can remain above the previous days high and value high, this means that the rally was valid and longer time frame buyers was present. The previous days high and value high will act as support. However, if the markets opened above the previous days high and was quickly rejected falling below value, this indicates short covering. Understanding price acceptance from rejection is crucial.

4. Look for market excess: Market excess exists when prices have extended too far above/below value. Other time frame buyers or sellers will enter aggresiviely to return price back into value. A single print tail below/above value is a good sign of market excess. On a price chart, this is where prices find support/resistance with a quick reversal never to test that support/resistace again.

"Excess is created when the other timeframe recognizes an opportunity and aggressively enters the market, returning price to the perceived area of value." from Mind over Markets

Why are these levels important? They can as key future support and resistance points. These levels represent price rejection. No time = no acceptance.

5. Previous days close: If the previous days close remains in value, this indicates market balance. If the close remains above/below value this indicates market imbalance.

If the markets rotated above and below the opening price to close at its upper extreme, we have a temporary victory by the bulls. If the markets closed at its lower extreme, we have a temporary victory by the bears.

6. Understanding the POC: The Point of Control is the price level in which the highest volume occurred. This can act as a key support or resistance point. This is also commonly used as a level to place stops.

7. Value high and value low: These are two important pivots when using market profile. When prices are trading within value, the value high will act as resistance and the value low as support. If prices do break out of value, the VAH will act as support and VAL as resistance.

8. Opening Range: Also known as the initial balance. If the initial balance is narrow in the morning session, any break above/below willl most likely be the trend for the day. A wide initial balance can indicate a market rotation from the upper range to the lower range for the trading day.

9: Type of Days: Please refer to this thread.
Hi, Soultrader,

New mp trader here,

I would to get ur advise about the opening's relationship to previous day..
As for the open within previous day's VA, the value area also include the VAH & VAL. Am I right ? As for the range, which mustt be the price area outside the VAH & VAL? Am I right?
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