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Old 05-19-2008, 05:22 PM   #1

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Hi, folks,

Market analysis seems to be the appropriate forum for this.

My question to all of you: what happened today at 1:45pm ET that caused the market to crash? At 1pm ET there were two reports on the calendar: 3- and 6-month bill reports, but the crash started around 1:40-1:45. I didn't see any volume spikes like I see sometimes before a big move.

How can all markets crash like that at the same time?

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WASHINGTON, May 19 (Reuters) - A few Federal Reserve policy-makers have begun talking openly about the need to raise interest rates, but it appears more likely the U.S. central bank will stay on hold until early 2009. (1:34 EDT) more...

In other words, the Fed may be done lowering rates. You can see what the reaction was, though the recovery off the lows was fairly strong.
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The market dropped b/c the charts were screaming a drop was coming.
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Re: May 19, 2008; 1:45pm ET Crash

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The market dropped b/c the charts were screaming a drop was coming.
Yep, a little birdie told me to look for 1424's on the way down (POC of the up swing) with possible support around 1428-29s (VAH of the up swing). News just acts as the catalyst.
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Re: May 19, 2008; 1:45pm ET Crash

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Hi, folks,

Market analysis seems to be the appropriate forum for this.

My question to all of you: what happened today at 1:45pm ET that caused the market to crash? At 1pm ET there were two reports on the calendar: 3- and 6-month bill reports, but the crash started around 1:40-1:45. I didn't see any volume spikes like I see sometimes before a big move.

How can all markets crash like that at the same time?

Thank you,
Bert
Crash??? A 19.25 range in the ES is a crash? Dont think so, nothing out of the ordinary today.

This is a crash:
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Crash??? A 19.25 range in the ES is a crash? Dont think so, nothing out of the ordinary today.
Exactly, we have at least a few more months before that happens.
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News just acts as the catalyst.
And a damned fine job it does, too.
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Yep, a little birdie told me to look for 1424's on the way down (POC of the up swing) with possible support around 1428-29s (VAH of the up swing). News just acts as the catalyst.
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what software do you use that you can split vpoc and vvah /vval at swing points? I trade somewhat similar but a little more crudely I suppose. Because es opened above Fridays vah(1423.25) and held it then became todays val. That would make Friday's vpoc(1420.75) an unfair low.1424.25 becomes as you said the vpoc and 1429.25 becomes the vah. Also 1436.75 is now an unfair high.Thats how tomorrow setups for me.
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