[unicorn]

Originally Posted by PYenner »

You had to ask the complicated question...

I sure did.

Thanks Bruce.

regards. Unicorn.

[walterw]

Originally Posted by unicorn »

Hello Walter and Cattus;

The implementation of the fisher oscillator that you are using is incorrect.
This implementation goes back to the "step rsi" and "step stochastics" indicators, that start the computation loops at the last bar and propagate the calculations to the past. This is a trick that makes the step indicators look good but of course has the result of re-computation and thus "re-painting".

The iFisher stochastic uses the inverse Fisher transform
inverse_fisher_value = 0.5 * log ( (1 + osc_Value) / (1 - osc_Value) ) ;

on the stochastic oscillator after it has been rescaled to have values in the range (-1, +1)
osc_value = 2 * stoch(fast_periods, slow_periods) -1;

It is a stochastic that has been stretched a little bit. Similar to iFisher_rsi as explained by John Ehlers at his site.

If you like try the attached implementation (developed by member "feb2006" at the site where you probably got your mq4). Let us know your evaluation.

thanks unicorn for input, question: this one does not repaint ?

thanks Walter.

[cattus]

Originally Posted by unicorn »

Hello Walter and Cattus;

The implementation of the fisher oscillator that you are using is incorrect.
This implementation goes back to the "step rsi" and "step stochastics" indicators, that start the computation loops at the last bar and propagate the calculations to the past. This is a trick that makes the step indicators look good but of course has the result of re-computation and thus "re-painting".

The iFisher stochastic uses the inverse Fisher transform
inverse_fisher_value = 0.5 * log ( (1 + osc_Value) / (1 - osc_Value) ) ;

on the stochastic oscillator after it has been rescaled to have values in the range (-1, +1)
osc_value = 2 * stoch(fast_periods, slow_periods) -1;

It is a stochastic that has been stretched a little bit. Similar to iFisher_rsi as explained by John Ehlers at his site.

If you like try the attached implementation (developed by member "feb2006" at the site where you probably got your mq4). Let us know your evaluation.

Hi unicorn.

/This conversation is becoming more interesting: The cat, the chimp and the unicorn are talking! Oh God!, jeje/

I threw a glance to the codes of the "fisher m11" and I could not discern it because I am not a coder, I believe that I prefer to use it, sorry, but I prefer to be a practical cat, jeje. May be it is the finish of the topic of Fisher Yur4ik_v2, because it is incorrect...

Thanks a lot for your value comments and for the file you attached, I will review it in comparison with the chimp indicator... unless somebody considers another thing.

cattus

[cattus]

Originally Posted by walterw »

so far it is 40 and 4... names are mixted... sorry about that... little messy research on here...

I understand, thanks.

Originally Posted by walterw »

Cattus : since your inputs about timeframes, I had been looking arround a 60 min against a 5 min thats 1/12th relation between timeframes... it could call for more robust scalps at 5 min (still good lifestyle issues under control) with a very solid trend definition at 60 min in this case using a rainbow for good momentum determination...

Thanks for this comment. I always see the chart of 1 hour, and frequently I change it to 4 hour and 15 min, looking for to understand better what it is making the market. My intention is to trade on the 1 min chart, and if I detect a bigger movement, then I would try to climb the trade, this mean that at that moment I climbed the trade I had to think in terms of the 5 min chart and I would leave the chart of 1 min. I do not know if it strategy would be, it is an intention at this moment. If it result I will comment you.

Originally Posted by walterw »

One thing somehow its finished for me.. its the "setuping" issues with the centrifugal and centripetal setups... thats a finished topic for me... what context of indicators and time frames, I believe there is more to be done on optimization...

I guess all your first efforts were enough to understand the setuping. The videos and the examples charts are excellents, but if it is possible, I would like to see more example videos of real trades. I do not know what think the others...

I would like to put some charts with mark the patterns difficult to recognize in order to obtain orientation of you and the other members of the club.

And... to see the method working with more pairs (pros and contras), where we must put the stop loss, I think it is very important, I do not know which part of the process of the car construction it is.... but, it is important, jeje.

Thanks Walter.


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[unicorn]

Originally Posted by walterw »

this one does not repaint ?

Walter;
I am not using MT4.

I had a look at it in the past, but did not like the "programming Language".
However, I do read indicators in mq4.

This version should not repaint. It was coded by feb2000 (MartinG) for this specific purpose.

[walterw]

Originally Posted by cattus »

I understand, thanks.




Thanks for this comment. I always see the chart of 1 hour, and frequently I change it to 4 hour and 15 min, looking for to understand better what it is making the market. My intention is to trade on the 1 min chart, and if I detect a bigger movement, then I would try to climb the trade, this mean that at that moment I climbed the trade I had to think in terms of the 5 min chart and I would leave the chart of 1 min. I do not know if it strategy would be, it is an intention at this moment. If it result I will comment you.




I guess all your first efforts were enough to understand the setuping. The videos and the examples charts are excellents, but if it is possible, I would like to see more example videos of real trades. I do not know what think the others...

I would like to put some charts with mark the patterns difficult to recognize in order to obtain orientation of you and the other members of the club.

And... to see the method working with more pairs (pros and contras), where we must put the stop loss, I think it is very important, I do not know which part of the process of the car construction it is.... but, it is important, jeje.

Thanks Walter.


AgustÃÂ*n

I will try to keep updated on examples Cattus, so the idea can get even more clear on the mind... so far I like to get focused at one pair, so the research process doesnt get so congested... cheers Walter.

[walterw]

Originally Posted by unicorn »

Walter;
I am not using MT4.

I had a look at it in the past, but did not like the "programming Language".
However, I do read indicators in mq4.

This version should not repaint. It was coded by feb2000 (MartinG) for this specific purpose.

Thanks for the clarification Unicorn...

For the sake of simplicity and in order to use all my time resources on the research of "optimized contexts for centrifugal and centripetal setups" I will not be using other oscillator than chimp oscillator and ccit3 as I had found them on the level of "enough optimum performance" for their asigned tasks...

I apreciate a lot all this inputs, only I dont want to get off track.... cheers Walter.

[Blu-Ray]

Originally Posted by michaltrade »

Thank you very much Blu-Ray for the ELD codes. I am very excited to test them right now.

Thanks a million (this is FOREX) for the oustanding team efforts from Walterw, Pyenner, and Blu-Ray.

Thanks Michaltrade for your kind comments.

With the volume issue being a problem for TS forex, I've coded up the CCi with T3 Smoothing as per fxsniper from MT4.

If you put the inputs at 10,3 then it acts close to the chimp2_1, ( the main word being close, as we're not going to get exact ).

So all I can ask you and any other TS users, is to play about with the settings and see if you find some optimum settings that might give good signals.

Cheers

Blu-Ray