[walterw]

Originally Posted by Sparrow »

You're welcome Walter, hope you'll get something cool out of it.

Cheers

Next week will be an incredible week on this process... ¡¡ no doubt..

Thanks to your translation of Bruce`s and Unicorn`s vma`s indicators to NT plus your HMA`s and fxsccit3`s programing.... my migration to NT is definitive as I find tick charts give a great edge to good trading and scalping...

So once again I have to say thanks to ALL of you guys who made possible this great arsenal of indicators that really give a tremendous edge to a serious professional trader... (superior by far to any comercial version)

Now the chimp is on the laboratory adapting new strategies derived from new time frames dimensions... will share soon his findings.... cheers Walter.

[unicorn]

Originally Posted by PYenner »

It would also help to have an exhaustion meter that tells you how long this ladder is going to last...

Hello Bruce;

Which indicator do you have in mind for an exhaustion meter?

Take it easy.
Unicorn.

[PYenner]

Originally Posted by unicorn »

Which indicator do you have in mind for an exhaustion meter?

Unicorn
Still vague thinking on that, I feel something should be possible but unsure where to look. Either momentum or momentum/volume gives a clear spike at the start of a ladder but neither gives a clear picture of progressive fatique toward the end of a ladder. Looked at OBV, found good and bad in that. Still need to look inside the code of conventional indicators to see how they might be improved or exploited. My education on conventional indicators is zero, I learn only what I need in order to do the job at hand. But that means my "mental library" is running near empty. Vague thoughts about using a reciprocal to invert a near zero reading on Chimp3-1 so there would be a second line that is near 1 when the Chimp3_1 line is near zero, but its only questioning, nothing clear. Volume alone might give more information if it is dissected in greater detail, OBV looks to be primative, there are probably more intelligent versions than obv in use but don't recall what they were called.

Also wondering if the narrowing of the "stochastic band" might be useful.
The number I am thinking of is HHV-LLV, this may get smaller as a trend weakens but there is the complication that the trend sometimes reverses without bothering to get exhausted first. HHV-LLV might not be "smart" enough, it might need to be made more sensitive to weakening of the current trend and kept less sensitive to pullback against that trend.

It might also be possible to run one stochastic on the plus stream and another on the minus stream and gain something useful about changing trend strengths from comparing the (HHV-LLV) numbers for plus and minus streams.

Off topic but the thought popped up that while signal/(HHV-LLV) works well for vma, an alternative like (signal -(HHV-LLV)/2)/(HHV-LLV) might give an axis line with less vma steps in it??? There are also aspects of vidya that might still be explored for getting axis lines or whatever, I think you mentioned stochastic(rsi) as an interesting one and I need to look into those suggestions. There are a number of swing indicators that might be turned into something far more general purpose if they could be adapted to work with trends better, made an attempt at one six months ago but went off in a different direction soon after.

Never used tick charts before so waiting for Walter to introduce his tick tactics so I waste less time finding out what works for the trader.

An advanced picture may depend on the access a platform gives to the native tick feed before it has been "interpreted" by the platform. A "full" picture needs access to enough chart pairs to analyse the currencies that are being traded to move the prices in the current chart. This is possible in the majors where the pairs are available, but currently not possible with AUD due to lack of other AUD pairs. This "currency" analysis would probably give the clearest exhaustion signal there is but I am only part way into understanding it and to understanding how tier1 trading actually operates. Can't find published info on how the trading system was designed so having to Sherlock Holmes my way towards understanding. There is no pot of gold here, the market remains devious at all levels of analysis, but the more tools you have to work with the better and the beauty of currency analysis is that it is in hard number real time prices, nothing vague about the numbers, only the tactical thinking behind them that remains the big challenge.

Its going to be clumsy steps at first but hope to gain some focus or direction from them.

After looking inside the stages of snipers T3 I got a surprise at how little lag it produced, had me wondering if dema, tema, T3 etc should be tried in place of emas with the adxvma but they already follow a ladder quite well so the only "improvement" might be in them breaking out of HE earlier and not sure if that would be an improvement or make things worse.

Off topic again, but in electronics there are a host of filters suited to different purposes and I am starting to find analogies in ema, dema etc, T3 looks seriously interesting for use in smoothing momentum indicators so that less price gets added into the momentum signal. This class of smoothing is known as zero phase shift or mimimal phase shift in electronics and T3 looks to be along the lines of a minimal phase shift filter so it may have uses for preserving "signal fidelity".

Doesn't pay to ask what I'm thinking because a ton of junk is likely to tumble out... Welcome to the confusion club...

Very impressed with NT documentation so far, promising.
Cheers

[unicorn]

Originally Posted by PYenner »

Volume alone might give more information if it is dissected in greater detail, OBV looks to be primitive, there are probably more intelligent versions than obv in use but don't recall what they were called.

Twiggs Money Flow.
Google it.

cheers
Unicorn.

[walterw]

Originally Posted by unicorn »

Hello Walter;

can you test how close the signal vma(4,4,4) and its Hull(25),
are to your adxvma() and corresponding Hull?

similarly for the signal vma(5,5,5) and its Hull(25).

It is impossible for me to test it, as we do not have the same data.


cheers.
Unicorn.

you got me mixed here Unicorn... I am doing so much inputs tests here on my desk that really forgot what I showed you exactly... I tell you, probably tomorrow I start new thread, you will see how the vma`s with hull signal really unleash a true POWER... sorry couldnt post this... cheers Walter.

[unicorn]

Originally Posted by walterw »

you got me mixed here Unicorn... sorry couldnt post this... cheers Walter.

Water;
it is actually very simple;

please:
chart 1 with
FantailVMA1(4,4,1,4), FantailVMA(5,5,1,5), ADXVMATst3(1,4,25,HMA,0,0 ,1,4,4,4,0)

chart 2 with
FantailVMA1(4,4,2,4), FantailVMA(5,5,2,5), ADXVMATst3(1,4,25,HMA,0,0 ,1,4,4,4,0)

a couple of minutes will do it. Thank you.

Unicorn.

[walterw]

Originally Posted by unicorn »

Water;
it is actually very simple;

please:
chart 1 with
FantailVMA1(4,4,1,4), FantailVMA(5,5,1,5), ADXVMATst3(1,4,25,HMA,0,0 ,1,4,4,4,0)

chart 2 with
FantailVMA1(4,4,2,4), FantailVMA(5,5,2,5), ADXVMATst3(1,4,25,HMA,0,0 ,1,4,4,4,0)

a couple of minutes will do it. Thank you.

Unicorn.

Unicorn... any particular timeframe ?

[unicorn]

Originally Posted by walterw »

Unicorn... any particular timeframe ?

11 ticks and 1 minute

Thanks Walter