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Old 03-09-2007, 10:02 AM
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Info/Opinions on TradeStation

How is the TS datafeed these days for the mini's ER,ES,NQ,YM?
Second, what is their Rturn commisions for the mini's and how many to get the platform for free?

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Old 03-09-2007, 11:10 AM
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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

Hello Knyyt,

Data feed for me will have a glitch every now and then. But it it is not enough to affect my trading. My cost for a round turn is $4.80 and ten trades/ month to get the platform free.

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Old 03-09-2007, 11:14 AM
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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

I cannot compare TS to other platforms, but will tell you that the TS commissions on minis is just under $5/rt. Do at least 10 rt's per month and the platform fee is waived, i.e. you pay only for real-time data feeds.

I have no complaints with them

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Old 03-09-2007, 02:48 PM
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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

Tradestation data feed overall much better now than 2 years ago and very close to eSignal data, but still lugging compare to IB.

To compare data feeds from variety of providers - get a trial TS and use OwnData software to put data all together and feed trade station. It is possible to evaluate data in real time tick by tick.

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Old 03-09-2007, 05:53 PM
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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

I have recently acquired a TS account, and also have IB and AMTD

i had heard previously, and now have it confirmed by my own experience, that IB "chunks" (aggregates) their ticks in a fast moving market. TS does not.

This is clear when watching TS time/sales vs. IB's

In IB's you will often see orders for (for example) 35 contracts, whereas in TS you will see 5 5 3 10 6 6 in other words the exact fills that went through

i have personally seen my orders go through on IB's tape (buy 6 lots on the bid, it shows up on tape, etc.), but it appears that IB aggregates ticks when the market starts moving quickly.

this means that tick data as well as delta data (trades on ask - trades on bid) is inaccurate with IB feed.

i was using marketdelta with IB and was getting the impression that the data was bogus, and have now confirmed it by comparing to TS.

don't get me wrong. i love IB for what it is - cheap commissions, lots of datafeeds w/o additional fees, etc. but for realtime tape watching and delta comparisons, it is not suitable

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Old 03-09-2007, 05:58 PM
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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

hello guys : one comment that I believe its important to take into acct at this data feed / platform issues, and it is that IB tick data its not the same as esignal or TS... ticks on IB are not reliable data.... take that into acct... cheers Walter.

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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

example: a 233Tick chart from ts maybe you get 15ticks on IB...

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Old 03-09-2007, 10:54 PM
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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

Data providers use deferent algorithm to calculate ticks. eSignal and TS offer real time calculation, though CME has recently changed the ticks computation. IB provides snapshot 1/6 second.

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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

I hope we are not jinxing it, but the data and charts have been great for a while now. I can't recall the last crash or anything. It's been very good and reliable, which wasn't always the case.

Can't speak on behalf of trading execution as I have never used them. Here's a commission page: http://www.tradestation.com/popups/f...rkets/cbot.htm

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Old 03-10-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: Info/Opinions on TradeStation

its nowhere near a 15 to 233 ration disparity

ive run 300 tick charts side by side, and where IB might have 250 ticks or so, TS would have 300

its inaccurate, but it's not THAT bad

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