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Old 04-12-2007, 10:38 PM
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ESignal v TS

Which is the smoother and more flexible platform? Want to be able to use MP as well. ESignal data i hear is pretty good. ANyone have experience with both?

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Re: ESignal v TS

I have experience with esignal in the past.. now I use TS. If you are looking for a smooth platform, esignal is the way to go. Ive been using TS for some time so I am very comfortable with it hence the reason why I still use it.

The MP package for esignal is reasonable and good also. I think they can offer the MP package one month free.

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Re: ESignal v TS

About a year or so ago I had some data issues with TS and jumped ship to ESignal. I found at that time that the data reliability was absolutely terrible when compared to TS. It didn't take long to go back to TS and *knock on wood* the data has been terrific for at least 10+ months. Being a simple trader, data is the one thing that I need and cannot complain about TS anytime recently.

A lot could have changed in the last year, but I have never even considered heading back to ESignal after the debacle I witnessed.

The other consideration may be cost and I believe that if you trade thru TS the per month cost is very low compared to ESignal. Even if you don't trade thru them (I don't) the per month cost is reasonable.

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Re: ESignal v TS

I have both TS and eSignal.

eSignal FINALLY looks like they resolved their Eurex data problems. TS still has some Eurex latency.

It comes down to this for me: I use TS because I can test trading ideas. eSignal needs programming skills to do the same.

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Re: ESignal v TS

There are pros and cons of each. I used to use Esignal and while the data feed was not the greatest it did have some advantages. Such as more markets offered then TS and I thought programming in Esignal was much easier to learn then programming in TS. But, each takes time to learn. If i had to choose ( and I do ) I go with TS. I believe that ts offers much more then Esignal if you are willing to put in the time to learn it. Price is also another consideration. If you open an acct at TS, but dont trade, the platform is about $95/month. Not sure on what Esginal is but I think it was near the $150 level. And if you only want to trade the mini's the TS data feed is only $25. So I only pay $120/month. And, in my opinion, TS's data is much more reliable then that off esignal's. So for the price, reliability, and features I think TS is the winner hands down.

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Re: ESignal v TS

I've read varying comments about which is better: TS or eSignal, in so far as the data feed.

But how about the interface and the platform itself? Look and feel? Charting and latency? Especially during economic reports (Fed, Non-Farm Payroll, etc...)

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Re: ESignal v TS

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I have both TS and eSignal.

eSignal FINALLY looks like they resolved their Eurex data problems. TS still has some Eurex latency.

It comes down to this for me: I use TS because I can test trading ideas. eSignal needs programming skills to do the same.
Thanks, mo, you answered my question from another thread.

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About a year or so ago I had some data issues with TS and jumped ship to ESignal. I found at that time that the data reliability was absolutely terrible when compared to TS. It didn't take long to go back to TS and *knock on wood* the data has been terrific for at least 10+ months. Being a simple trader, data is the one thing that I need and cannot complain about TS anytime recently.

A lot could have changed in the last year, but I have never even considered heading back to ESignal after the debacle I witnessed.

The other consideration may be cost and I believe that if you trade thru TS the per month cost is very low compared to ESignal. Even if you don't trade thru them (I don't) the per month cost is reasonable.
I cannot speak to what the ESignal datafeed was like over a year ago as I have only used ESignal for the past year but I have never had any problems with it at all. I cannot say the same for their advanced charting as most computers, including most Iintel based dual core etc.. have difficulties running ESig's advanced charting in fast markets. It seems AMD has the upperhand in chipsets for the time being, as admitted begrudingly by Intel's move to the same architecture being run by AMD chipsets for over a year already. Fortunately, my off the shelf Sony which is a year old is somehow designed so that it runs it all without the slightest snag (lucky me, compared to some of the horror stories other traders have shared with me.)

TS charting, which is free if you trade just 10 round trip futures contracts per month (pretty minimal if you ask me) is darn hard to beat if you don't require lots of market profile stuff or constant volume bar charting.

Even Ninja Trader's Version 6 charting platform, which should be released a week from this coming Monday, is rapidly approaching state of the art and could be a nice choice once the Zenfire brokers begin providing historical data enough to run daily, weekly and monthly charts.. as you can only run hourly and below currently. It runs OHLC and volume bar charts quite efficiently as well from what I can tell, but you never know what surprises lurk in new versions.

Good luck with whatever you choose and do let us know if other meaningful issues surface in your testing.

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Re: ESignal v TS

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Re: ESignal v TS

Hey Nick - as I posted over here http://www.traderslaboratory.com/for...help-1630.html

Depending on the type of charting you need, make sure to demo and test the softwares first!!!! I cannot stress that enough!!! Never assume ANYTHING.

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