[Gabe2004]

Could someone tell me which of the following contracts is more advantageous to trade.
ZF or ZN?

Thank you

Gabe

[brownsfan019]

Originally Posted by Gabe2004 »

Could someone tell me which of the following contracts is more advantageous to trade.
ZF or ZN?

Thank you

Gabe

ZF = 5 yr notes
ZN = 10 yr notes

This is the grains thread. I think you want this thread if looking for bonds.

[Gabe2004]

Originally Posted by brownsfan019 »

ZF = 5 yr notes
ZN = 10 yr notes

This is the grains thread. I think you want this thread if looking for bonds.

Sorry. You are right.

Gabe

[Dinerotrader]

BF,
Do you watch wheat or corn very much. I have only been watching soybeans but I took a look at the corn chart today and found the movements pretty tradable. I might have to take a few days to watch the corn charts and see how they trade on SIM.

[Dinerotrader]

Here is a quick look at the ZS with some timer perspective. I made the mistake of trading the movement in the danger zone today (see chart 2). The ZS can provide home run moves as well as some nice daily moves but they usually occur, IMO, once you've gotten the extremes of the range we are in. The middle chop area provides much less statistically sound trade setups so I always come back to the idea that I should just trade the best setups and not just any setups. You'll also notice that the speed of movement and volatility are much less exciting the days were are sitting in the middle of this zone.

Look at some of the moves on the first chart where price broke out of the zone it was in. Those could be days you make 3 month's worth of money if you can manage your risk appropriately with some additional contracts.

If you have some similar analysis on any of the other grains or a different perspective on trading the ZS please post something.

[brownsfan019]

Originally Posted by Dinerotrader »

BF,
Do you watch wheat or corn very much. I have only been watching soybeans but I took a look at the corn chart today and found the movements pretty tradable. I might have to take a few days to watch the corn charts and see how they trade on SIM.

I watch it but I just like the moves on Soy and get trades there just about every day so I focus there. Typically my grain trade is the last one of the day and I just focus on Soy b/c I like the movements.

Just make sure to watch wheat or corn intraday to get a feel for them. Not quite the same as Soy IMO.

[brownsfan019]

Originally Posted by Dinerotrader »

Here is a quick look at the ZS with some timer perspective. I made the mistake of trading the movement in the danger zone today (see chart 2). The ZS can provide home run moves as well as some nice daily moves but they usually occur, IMO, once you've gotten the extremes of the range we are in. The middle chop area provides much less statistically sound trade setups so I always come back to the idea that I should just trade the best setups and not just any setups. You'll also notice that the speed of movement and volatility are much less exciting the days were are sitting in the middle of this zone.

Look at some of the moves on the first chart where price broke out of the zone it was in. Those could be days you make 3 month's worth of money if you can manage your risk appropriately with some additional contracts.

If you have some similar analysis on any of the other grains or a different perspective on trading the ZS please post something.

Charts look good dinero! I don't really use the bigger timeframe or view much, so I don't have much to contribute there. But if it helps to post, keep doing it. Eventually we might snag an ES guy to come over to our side.

[Dinerotrader]

Originally Posted by brownsfan019 »

Charts look good dinero! I don't really use the bigger timeframe or view much, so I don't have much to contribute there. But if it helps to post, keep doing it. Eventually we might snag an ES guy to come over to our side.

It doesn't help you to see where things are at on a larger scale?

I always feel like my better trades occur at the range extremes so the larger time frames help me identify those.

What is the largest time frame you look at or thing is useful for you?