[Tams]

Originally Posted by rcossey73 »

In order to automate a strategy with NT and IB, you have to establish a connection between TWS and NT. TWS is connected to IB servers and not NT. With most other data providers NT is connected directly to the data providers and can detect failures directly. When I used TWS with NT there was no way for TWS to alert NT that connection was lost to IB servers.

Originally Posted by Tams »

I do not have experience in this... I have a few questions:

1. How does NT detect disconnection with other brokers? (which brokers?)

2. What is NT going to do if there is a disconnection?

3. How is NT going to alert you if there is a disconnection?

Originally Posted by rcossey73 »

1) Not sure, I would suggest you check with NT's docs or support staff to be certain.

2) Try to establish a new connection, something it doesn't know to do if TWS stops working.

3) There are probably several ways, I would suggest you check with NT's docs or support staff to be certain.

You mean you are complaining about something that does not exist ??? LOL

[sevensa]

Originally Posted by rcossey73 »

Where did I say that you could or should? As far as I know most other providers have a direct connection between NT and the providers servers and you don't have to rely upon another application.

I'm a bit confused now as well. You said this is an issue when using IB and NT which implied to me that this is not an issue when using something else. I also would like to know you would code this in an automated system to detect this when you use e-signal for example and why you cannot do that when using IB?

[rcossey73]

Originally Posted by Tams »

I still do not understand your point...

so what would happen if there is a disconnection?

what would do what?

1. the broker software would take some action? like what?

2. the broker server would take some action?
e.g. liquidate your positions?
do you program the broker's side for action?

3. NT would take some action? What actions?

1. If TWS has no connection to the servers then NT has no way to know this or act on it. If NT loses connection to servers then it could act in various ways, one is to try and establish a new connection. TWS might be able to do this as well assuming it is working properly otherwise. To be clear the issue has more to do with the application not working properly than say your internet connection is down.

2. I never said anything to the sort and only commented on client side application.

It seems obvious you like IB and TWS? I didn't say I had a problem with TWS. I had issues with the support staff and left for reasons that had nothing to do with data feed.

If I was going to try and program an auto strategy then my opinion is one application is better than 2, especially on a windows box.

If you are considering using IB with NT then I strongly suggest you visit with NT to make sure you are using the best possible configuration between NT and TWS, including the right versions of both applications...

[Tams]

Originally Posted by rcossey73 »

1. If TWS has no connection to the servers then NT has no way to know this or act on it. If NT loses connection to servers then it could act in various ways, one is to try and establish a new connection. TWS might be able to do this as well assuming it is working properly otherwise. To be clear the issue has more to do with the application not working properly than say your internet connection is down.

2. I never said anything to the sort and only commented on client side application.

It seems obvious you like IB and TWS? I didn't say I had a problem with TWS. I had issues with the support staff and left for reasons that had nothing to do with data feed.

If I was going to try and program an auto strategy then my opinion is one application is better than 2, especially on a windows box.

If you are considering using IB with NT then I strongly suggest you visit with NT to make sure you are using the best possible configuration between NT and TWS, including the right versions of both applications...

I don't know of ONE broker that allows you to have direct connection to their server.
There is ALWAYS a connecting program resident in YOUR computer.
This program might not be visible to you, but it is there.

[Tams]

Originally Posted by rcossey73 »

...
It seems obvious you like IB and TWS?
...

I thought we were discussing FACTS... No need to be juvenile.

[sevensa]

Originally Posted by rcossey73 »

If I was going to try and program an auto strategy then my opinion is one application is better than 2, especially on a windows box.

I am sorry, but this makes no sense. If you use e-signal for example connecting to NT, this is one application. Then you still need another application to place orders with your broker. This is a 2nd application. Then you still use NT which is your third application. So, you would rather not use TWS to avoid using two applications to opt for a solution using three?

So, you are not using an auto strategy and have not coded one and is not using IB with TWS??? What are you basing your comments on auto trading with NT through TWS then? Where did you get your facts from?

[rcossey73]

Originally Posted by sevensa »

I am sorry, but this makes no sense. If you use e-signal for example connecting to NT, this is one application. Then you still need another application to place orders with your broker. This is a 2nd application. Then you still use NT which is your third application. So, you would rather not use TWS to avoid using two applications to opt for a solution using three?

So, you are not using an auto strategy and have not coded one and is not using IB with TWS??? What are you basing your comments on auto trading with NT through TWS then? Where did you get your facts from?

I don't use e-signal so not sure how it works. I do use NT with Zen-Fire data feed and there is not another application or two others as you state. I use NT to place orders with my broker...

You failed to read my first post then, I stated that I did use IB and with NT and do not use them any longer. If this issue no longer exist than that is fine, I only pointed out that it was an issue.

[rcossey73]

Originally Posted by Tams »

I don't know of ONE broker that allows you to have direct connection to their server.
There is ALWAYS a connecting program resident in YOUR computer.
This program might not be visible to you, but it is there.

If there is then I can't find it, and if so then that means there are 3 apps required for NT to work with IB then.