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Old 08-14-2009, 11:55 AM   #1

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Tradestation warning

Dear Traders Lab folks,
Just a warning for those of you that use tradestation. Last night I tried to upgrade my TS from build 2525 to build 2612. The process aborted, and crashed my computer so hard that their technicians are insisting that the only way to fix it is to reinstall XP (thereby wiping out everything else on my computer!).
To make matters worse, the techs say that their finding this error more and more frequently, so it appears that there's something drastically wrong with this new build, 2612. They don't understand why this occurs, and apparently it doesn't happen all the time, but only rarely, but often enough that they're getting complaints about it every day. Supposedly, Easylanguage files are overwriting Registry files that are unconnected to tradestation. Now THAT's a serious error!
My strong suggestion is that you avoid this build, and wait for the next one.

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Old 08-14-2009, 12:07 PM   #2

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Re: Tradestation warning

There is another lesson to be learned here and that is to back up your pc using something like Acronis True Image. In the event that the pc get an error similar to that which you have then you can restore your pc exactly to how it was at the last incremental back up. I do this quite regularly and I am glad I did as I did need to once restore my pc which took about 1 hour. The alternative would have been hours and hours of reloading software, custom indicators as well as lost files that I could never recover.



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Old 08-14-2009, 01:37 PM   #3

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Thanks. Good to know. I did upgrade already, yesterday I think it was, whenever it first became available. Thankfully nothing happened. Does that mean I'm in the clear? Either way, I back up my computer often.
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Re: Tradestation warning

Many thanks for the info and the reminder for backup trader333
After I read the thread I copied my backups to my external USB drive, perhaps a habit I should form.

Tasuki I have installed the new ver 8.6 B.2612, the installation was not a problem and it copied the evnivronment (destops and workspaces) from the previous version. So far I had once error after login apart from that its working fine, I still have the annoying retruency error on login

I use an simple but dedicated intel core2quad & XP rig to use tradestation on
As I only use this machine for TS, all I want to do is shutdown after closedown of TS
But with ver 8.6 I have to wait till all TS Services are flush from the memory or it will just ignore the shutdown request & keeps running.

I believe XP is still the best platform to run Dedicated-tradestation on, Ofcourse minus the PreInstall crap which comes on all Microsoft Operating systems

Rumours that Vista comes Pre-loaded with over 100 services, components, etc has kept me away from ever trying it out professionally

For such emergency I always have handy on my USB stick the last Service Pack run on the specific machine & relevant OS
Re running the SP, I presume this would over-write most part of your registry pertaining to the operating system & hence maybe able to restore the damage part.

Regards Minoo

Note the latest XP Service Pack is version 3, one can use winver command to find out which ver they are running currently
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Re: Tradestation warning

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Dear Traders Lab folks,
Just a warning for those of you that use tradestation. Last night I tried to upgrade my TS from build 2525 to build 2612. The process aborted, and crashed my computer so hard that their technicians are insisting that the only way to fix it is to reinstall XP (thereby wiping out everything else on my computer!).
I installed it this morning without a hitch running XP-PRO SP3
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the only way to fix it is to reinstall XP (thereby wiping out everything else on my computer!).
What else IS there on the computer?

Seriously.

Computer are cheap. I sit in front of two - and one is reserved for trading. No TS here (I currently use NInja), but there is NO Reason to have anything else on a trading system.

If you can not afford 2 computers (whow) or a replacable hard drive (good enough - just swap out hard drives) then get a virtualization platform and trade from a virtual instance.

There is NO excuse for running something as important and sensitive as trading shared with a ton of other software.

Not said TS did not do something bad, but you should trade on a more segregated level.

Tomorrow is my upgrade day, starting to wipe my computers and install the RTM version of Windows 7 Enterprise for trading
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What else IS there on the computer?

Seriously.

Computer are cheap. I sit in front of two - and one is reserved for trading. No TS here (I currently use NInja), but there is NO Reason to have anything else on a trading system.

If you can not afford 2 computers (whow) or a replacable hard drive (good enough - just swap out hard drives) then get a virtualization platform and trade from a virtual instance.

There is NO excuse for running something as important and sensitive as trading shared with a ton of other software.

Not said TS did not do something bad, but you should trade on a more segregated level.

Tomorrow is my upgrade day, starting to wipe my computers and install the RTM version of Windows 7 Enterprise for trading

Just because YOU wouldn't do something, does not mean there is NO reason for someone else to do something.
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Re: Tradestation warning

Maybe this is pertinent? I've had nothing but trouble with tradestation since I've been with them. The primary reason I joined was for the $.01/share stock trades, but as for futures, I do not see an advantage to having them over anyone else. Plus you pay for data (monthly)! I closed my futures account last month and will be closing the equities account fairly soon.

Conclusion: I don't like them

And also, from a former computer tech: back up your data.
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