Welcome to the Traders Laboratory Forums.
Brokers and Data Feeds Discuss brokers and data feeds here - forex, futures, stock, options

Reply
Old 11-12-2008, 08:56 PM   #17

BlowFish's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In Da House
Posts: 3,272
Ignore this user

Thanks: 129
Thanked 1,038 Times in 694 Posts



Re: IB Tick Data ... is It Worth Anything ?

Absolutely! I really like the 'look and fee'l of IB's 'pseudo' ticks and find them 'reliable'. In a fast market I would far rather have a 200ms sample with timely information than a full tick feed lagging by x seconds.

I really don't believe its a big a deal as some people make out though I guess some black boxes or quantitative systems might function better with an un-aggregated feed. I guessed that was the point of your question about application. I really can't imagine too many that would be impaired using IB's data despite its compromises.
BlowFish is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2008, 08:15 PM   #18

JKLM's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ST
Posts: 47
Ignore this user

Thanks: 14
Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts



Re: IB Tick Data ... is It Worth Anything ?

OK ..I understand that RT tick chart is diferent because IB 0.2 sec snapshot data

but when I request history tick chart from IB in MC ...what would I get ?
true tick chart as it should be, or something other ?

I am asking this because I am not sure... can I test anything on IB history tick charts and expect similar results when it goes live ?

in other words ...If I trade on IB tick data ....what data should I use for backtesting and building my system ?
JKLM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2008, 08:53 PM   #19

Kiwi's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: the zone
Posts: 966
Ignore this user

Thanks: 245
Thanked 834 Times in 384 Posts



Re: IB Tick Data ... is It Worth Anything ?

It depends on what history granularity you charting requests. 5 second is the finest and SierraChart only requests that when you are in a 1 hour or below situation. 30 second is used by SC for longer term backfill requests.


If you are backtesting a system based on ib tick data you need to use the same fill you will use live ... ie live.

But to be frank if you want to test based on tick data you had better pay the money and get a feed that provides you true tick data live and backfill.
Kiwi is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 03:26 PM   #20

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Westminster
Posts: 5
Ignore this user

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts



Re: IB Tick Data ... is It Worth Anything ?

I have used DTN IQfeed for almost one year and have never experienced a problem with them. They have been very reliable, and their customer service has been very good.

Another one I've heard about, but have not tried is Open Tick. I understand they are not accepting any new customers right now, though.
brevco is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 11:55 AM   #21

JKLM's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ST
Posts: 47
Ignore this user

Thanks: 14
Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts



Re: IB Tick Data ... is It Worth Anything ?

I just need to see how good is IB tick data
so if anyone have historical CL data ( year or two ) in ASCI format please post it here

thanks

Last edited by JKLM; 12-01-2008 at 12:03 PM.
JKLM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 02:59 PM   #22

darthtrader3.0beta's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 118
Ignore this user

Thanks: 0
Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts



Re: IB Tick Data ... is It Worth Anything ?

Well personally, I wouldn't worry about IB data if your not on it already. Forget about the data and make your choice broker wise that way.
I think what gets lost in this is most people don't trade off 1 tick charts, most of what we do involves snapshots of ticks and throwing out data to make a usefull summary at much slower intervals than .2 seconds...
The real difference between IB and a real tick provider is probly nothing unless your doing some high frequency autotrader deal..
If you like their broker services then just go with them and if you really need tick precise data then add DTN into the mix. DTN is impossible to beat bang for the buck wise.
darthtrader3.0beta is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 12:55 AM   #23

Bam-Bam's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Orlando
Posts: 37
Ignore this user

Thanks: 3
Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts



Re: IB Tick Data ... is It Worth Anything ?

It really depends on on what you are trading and what you want to do with your charts. On something like ES, having an aggregate tick count based on 0.2-0.3 second snapshots has little similarity to what's actually happening in the market. On a true tick data feed, the charts can turn a lot more quickly.

I have some indicator based strategies that I run on tick charts. I have other strategies that I run on 5-min candlestick charts. IB data is fine for the candlestick charts but is entirely unreliable for the tick strategies. I use a different broker for charting data.

As a risk control strategy, having a separate data feed for charting works out well. At least once a week, market data on one of my brokers will freeze. It's very convenient to have another vendor to inform you that the market is moving against your position.

Good trading,

Bam-Bam
Bam-Bam is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 05:22 AM   #24

BlowFish's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In Da House
Posts: 3,272
Ignore this user

Thanks: 129
Thanked 1,038 Times in 694 Posts



Re: IB Tick Data ... is It Worth Anything ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bam-Bam »

On a true tick data feed, the charts can turn a lot more quickly.

Bam-Bam
I thought they only aggregated ticks at the same price? So in theory they should turn at the same time.
BlowFish is offline  
Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is Level 2 Data Still Worth It? dtsb Market Internals 13 12-01-2011 08:18 AM
Acquiring and Using Historical Tick Data method Beginners Forum 10 07-11-2011 06:37 PM
Archiving Tick Data? darthtrader Tools of the Trade 18 01-16-2010 08:33 PM
Whose Posts Are Worth Reading? TradeRunner Beginners Forum 23 01-17-2009 04:29 PM
YM Tick Data TinGull E-mini Futures Trading Laboratory 6 03-18-2007 04:17 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:31 AM.
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CS to VB integration by DeskLancer
©2006-2011 Traders Laboratory, All Rights Reserved.